What's the rationale behind the sniper not having flashbangs?

Tsukasa · 02-02-2008, 01:52 AM

Just wondering. Not that I think they should just be given the grenades without other balance tweaks (we don't want super snipers), but it was a nice little tactic you could use.

Iggy · 02-02-2008, 01:56 AM

There has been talk of giving snipers a secondary grenade, but it won't be looked at for this patch. The idea is still on the table, and will be seriously looked at.

Chips · 02-02-2008, 01:57 AM

Flashbangs are realistic, nothing in FF is.

FF or it's predecessor TFC, were not based on realism.
You know what game you need to play to find that.

StinkyTaco · 02-02-2008, 02:00 AM

Flashbangs are annoying as hell. They have totally ruined Counter Strike Source.

If flashbangs do get into FF, I hope they are not able to flash team mates.

trepid_jon · 02-02-2008, 02:56 AM

With scouts now having man cannons, maybe caltrops should be thrown over to snipers? But maybe upgrade them to like...busted glass instead of nail-like things...and maybe they last a lot longer. So you slow people down and hear them breaking glass...and maybe snipers and teammates are immune. So you just throw some around you for minor protection. Random thought...

GambiT · 02-02-2008, 03:09 AM

glass as a weapon is outlawed under the Geneva Convention because it makes it difficult for the medics to heal them...

sorry...

shadow · 02-02-2008, 04:03 AM

medics have biological weapons, the spy attacks with a cloud of poisonous gas... somehow i dont think TF adheres to the geneva convention.

Credge · 02-02-2008, 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by shadow

medics have biological weapons, the spy attacks with a cloud of poisonous gas... somehow i dont think TF adheres to the geneva convention.

Medics have the full intent to heal, however, due to each color having different blood types and immunities, a medic will simply infect the enemy teams players.

Edit: And, because the medic is a nice guy, he shoots them to put them out of their misery.

The spy grenade is also not poisonous. You take damage from the coughing, much like a smoke grenade.

**squeek.** · 02-02-2008, 04:37 AM

I always liked the teleport grenade idea for snipers. With telefrag.

Agent Buckshot Moose · 02-02-2008, 04:43 AM

Hologram grenade GO!

GambiT · 02-02-2008, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Agent Buckshot Moose

Hologram grenade GO!

thats what i say, a hologram that mimics your movement, which one to shoot!

greenday5494 · 02-02-2008, 05:18 AM

i think holograms are cool. think of the effect possiblities, much farther than the HL1 holograms.

Meathook · 02-02-2008, 07:24 AM

proximity alarms, ... something to watch a snipes back.

EquilibriuM · 02-02-2008, 10:13 AM

well let me think his second nade show blow up like a smoke bomb then have the sniper turn into a tampon laying on the floor. random thought

**mervaka** · 02-02-2008, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by squeek.

I always liked the teleport grenade idea for snipers. With telefrag.

would be much better/effective/useful than a hologram grenade i think. imagine throwing the grenade down a random coridoor while being chased by someone, then running down in another direction. simply awesome!

MightyLotu · 02-02-2008, 12:00 PM

yea, teleport grenade would be tight

leilei · 02-02-2008, 12:18 PM

Flares.

pF · 02-02-2008, 12:56 PM

Flashbang wouldn't make sense for a class that rarely moves out of the sniper balconies. We need the Holoduke (seriously).

bokko · 02-02-2008, 03:47 PM

Wouldn't the teleporter grenade be really hard to implement, throw it under a ramp and you end up fused with the metal.

GhostBuster · 02-02-2008, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by trepid_jon

With scouts now having man cannons, maybe caltrops should be thrown over to snipers? But maybe upgrade them to like...busted glass instead of nail-like things...and maybe they last a lot longer. So you slow people down and hear them breaking glass...and maybe snipers and teammates are immune. So you just throw some around you for minor protection. Random thought...

Great idea men! i mean for example sniper throwing in yard 4 caltrorp in some exit of the mid part of well for example, he gets totally fucked up and slow, easy for killing... hmm... wait.. this will make snipers uberly anoying but... idk.

02-02-2008, 01:52 AM	#1
Tsukasa Join Date: Sep 2007 Class/Position: O Gametype: CTF Affiliations: mimic- Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	What's the rationale behind the sniper not having flashbangs? Just wondering. Not that I think they should just be given the grenades without other balance tweaks (we don't want super snipers), but it was a nice little tactic you could use.

02-02-2008, 02:56 AM	#5
trepid_jon Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Dallas, TX Class/Position: D Civilian Gametype: Rocket Jousting Affiliations: EAFD Posts Rated Helpful 78 Times	With scouts now having man cannons, maybe caltrops should be thrown over to snipers? But maybe upgrade them to like...busted glass instead of nail-like things...and maybe they last a lot longer. So you slow people down and hear them breaking glass...and maybe snipers and teammates are immune. So you just throw some around you for minor protection. Random thought... __________________ Support FF: Trepid steamcommunity.com/id/trepid_jon/

02-02-2008, 03:09 AM	#6
GambiT Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Baton Rouge Class/Position: Spy Affiliations: -=DoM=- Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	glass as a weapon is outlawed under the Geneva Convention because it makes it difficult for the medics to heal them... sorry... __________________ -------------------------------FF_Rock2(WIP)------------------------------ ---------------------------FF_RedGiant(Released)------------------------- --------------------------FF_Fragzone_G(Released)------------------------ --------------------------FF_Civibash_G(Released)------------------------ -------------------FF_Conc_G1(WIP)-------------------- -------------------FF_Hollow_G(WIP)---------------------

02-02-2008, 04:37 AM	#9
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02-02-2008, 05:18 AM	#12
greenday5494 Holy shit, thats kerrigan! D&A Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Class/Position: D, whatever the team needs, usually engy Gametype: AvD Affiliations: None Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	i think holograms are cool. think of the effect possiblities, much farther than the HL1 holograms. __________________ http://static.adrive.com/images/ads/...rbo_468x60.gif DAN MAPES!

02-02-2008, 01:57 AM	#3
Chips Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Flashbangs are realistic, nothing in FF is. FF or it's predecessor TFC, were not based on realism. You know what game you need to play to find that.

02-02-2008, 02:00 AM	#4
StinkyTaco Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	Flashbangs are annoying as hell. They have totally ruined Counter Strike Source. If flashbangs do get into FF, I hope they are not able to flash team mates.

02-02-2008, 04:03 AM	#7
shadow Retired FF Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	medics have biological weapons, the spy attacks with a cloud of poisonous gas... somehow i dont think TF adheres to the geneva convention.

02-02-2008, 04:43 AM	#10
Agent Buckshot Moose Wiki Standards Team Wiki Team Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Geokill's closet Class/Position: Sniper/Demoman Gametype: CTF Affiliations: :e0: Co-leader Posts Rated Helpful 6 Times	Hologram grenade GO!

02-02-2008, 07:24 AM	#13
Meathook Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: the enemies base Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	proximity alarms, ... something to watch a snipes back.

02-02-2008, 10:13 AM	#14
EquilibriuM G9- D&A Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Florida Class/Position: D Solly,Engy Gametype: ALL Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	well let me think his second nade show blow up like a smoke bomb then have the sniper turn into a tampon laying on the floor. random thought __________________

02-02-2008, 12:00 PM	#16
MightyLotu Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Belgium Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	yea, teleport grenade would be tight

02-02-2008, 12:18 PM	#17
leilei o^_^o Join Date: Nov 2007 Class/Position: O Gametype: CTF Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Flares.

02-02-2008, 12:56 PM	#18
pF no war but class war Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: big bad berlin Class/Position: Soldier / Scout Gametype: ctf Affiliations: [w~k!] Posts Rated Helpful 3 Times	Flashbang wouldn't make sense for a class that rarely moves out of the sniper balconies. We need the Holoduke (seriously).

02-02-2008, 03:47 PM	#19
bokko when ff will out? D&A Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Wouldn't the teleporter grenade be really hard to implement, throw it under a ramp and you end up fused with the metal.

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