FF Steamworks/Orange Box/etc. Discussion - Page 2

**squeek.** · 10-17-2008, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Lt Llama

As a total OB noob, in what way will the transition to OB influence mapping? What's the main differances and will there be problems with EP1 maps?

I've heard something about new water... some better hammer functions/tools, a particle editor... uh... yeah. Stuff like that. Nothing major, just minor things.

GiGaByTe was furious because he got some weird error whenever he had angled brushes, but I think only a minority of people get that error.

EP1 maps will still be 100% valid, but I've heard they might have some minor water issues (?).

Lt Llama · 10-17-2008, 11:03 AM

Fine, no need for recompiling or such.

Some new VRAD stuff for OB:

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-StaticPropPolys [New with Orange Box]
Perform shadow tests of prop_statics at polygon precision. (Very processor-intensive - default is to use collision models.)
-TextureShadows [New with Orange Box]
Generates lightmap shadows from $translucent surfaces of models that are specified in a lights file and being used with prop_static. Usually requires -StaticPropPolys to have any effect.

greenday5494 · 10-17-2008, 08:04 PM

the orange engine (more catchy than orange box engine) is just a little updated version of Source, with crappy expreimental dual-core commands, and some useful light previews. thats about it

oh, and there's new water textures and much more realistic HDR, compared to the spammy unrealistic bloom fest that is EP1.

GeoKill-----> · 10-17-2008, 08:29 PM

Higher Res Textures
New Partical System
More optimized
and some other stuff I can't remember

Iggy · 10-17-2008, 09:37 PM

Sooooooooo..... when will they cater to us Quad-Core users?

greenday5494 · 10-18-2008, 02:17 AM

the dual-core optimaizations are largley useless and very buggy.

Credge · 10-18-2008, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Iggy

Sooooooooo..... when will they cater to us Quad-Core users?

You are being catered to by having the game only use one of your cores, allowing for the ability to run thousands of processes at once.

Also: NEVER! MWAHAHAHA

MatiZ · 10-18-2008, 10:15 AM

Ok, devs, will you contact Valve about this kind of distribution?

Credge · 10-18-2008, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by MatiZ

Ok, devs, will you contact Valve about this kind of distribution?

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Originally Posted by squeek.

As an aside (not really), it's likely we need to be on the OB engine before we get Steamworks support.

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Originally Posted by Shadow00Caster

There are motions in the works to start getting on the track for this.

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Originally Posted by Circuitous

Valve is well aware of us. Lack of notice is not the issue.

MatiZ · 10-18-2008, 10:52 AM

Man, Insurgency is running on EP1 build of engine, so why FF can't be on Steam and running old engine?

Credge · 10-18-2008, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by MatiZ

Man, Insurgency is running on EP1 build of engine, so why FF can't be on Steam and running old engine?

I imagine it has more to do with popularity than anything else.

It could also have something to do with Valve looking for CS2 and have been advertising for the mod since before the OB came out.

CaLeB- · 10-18-2008, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MatiZ

Man, Insurgency is running on EP1 build of engine, so why FF can't be on Steam and running old engine?

Because we're white! Racism I say!

reaper18 · 10-18-2008, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by greenday5494

the dual-core optimaizations are largley useless and very buggy.

damn greenday, try some optimism bro, the OB engine isnt really that bad.

OneManArmy · 10-18-2008, 04:51 PM

One thing that is really worth the conversion is particle system

Circuitous · 10-18-2008, 06:35 PM

Jon is pissing himself over that thing.

Iggy · 10-18-2008, 10:41 PM

You know, every time someone uses the reference "OB".... all I can picture in my head is tampons.

Circuitous · 10-18-2008, 11:24 PM

I think you'd've been better off not telling us that.

Mooga · 10-18-2008, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by greenday5494

the dual-core optimaizations are largley useless and very buggy.

OrangeBox isn't dual core optimized. There is a command to enables it, but from what I've heard it doesn't do much but crashes a ton. By default, all OrangeBox does on the second core is particle effect (of what I've read).

However L4D has dual core in the requirements (lower then the single core requirements) meaning that the source engine is FINALLY getting some multi-core support.

chilledsanity · 10-19-2008, 12:15 AM

Hey I have a question. With something like Steamworks, will I basically be screwed for recording demos in the future? Right now if I want to watch something from 1.0 I can at least install that version of the mod and play it back that way. If the mod is updated on the fly, I'm guessing there's no way to keep track of any version consistency and I don't know of any other way of playing it back aside from in-game.

Circuitous · 10-19-2008, 01:25 AM

I never thought about that.

Is this an issue in existing Steamworks mods?

SOMEBODY CHECK AAAAH.

10-17-2008, 08:04 PM	#23
greenday5494 Holy shit, thats kerrigan! D&A Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Class/Position: D, whatever the team needs, usually engy Gametype: AvD Affiliations: None Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	the orange engine (more catchy than orange box engine) is just a little updated version of Source, with crappy expreimental dual-core commands, and some useful light previews. thats about it oh, and there's new water textures and much more realistic HDR, compared to the spammy unrealistic bloom fest that is EP1. __________________ http://static.adrive.com/images/ads/...rbo_468x60.gif DAN MAPES!

10-17-2008, 08:29 PM	#24
GeoKill-----> Community Member Server Owner Beta Tester Forum Moderator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hawthorne, California Class/Position: Soldier/Spy/Scout Gametype: AvD Affiliations: :e0:Eternal Order Leader Posts Rated Helpful 12 Times	Higher Res Textures New Partical System More optimized and some other stuff I can't remember __________________ Fortress-Forever Guides All Your Mapping Needs :e0: Will live on Forever Support FF:

10-18-2008, 02:17 AM	#26
greenday5494 Holy shit, thats kerrigan! D&A Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Class/Position: D, whatever the team needs, usually engy Gametype: AvD Affiliations: None Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	the dual-core optimaizations are largley useless and very buggy. __________________ http://static.adrive.com/images/ads/...rbo_468x60.gif DAN MAPES!

10-18-2008, 06:35 PM	#35
Circuitous Useless Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jun 2005 Class/Position: D Soldier, O Scout Gametype: AvD Posts Rated Helpful 9 Times	Jon is pissing himself over that thing. __________________ Look at all those dead links.

10-18-2008, 11:24 PM	#37
Circuitous Useless Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jun 2005 Class/Position: D Soldier, O Scout Gametype: AvD Posts Rated Helpful 9 Times	I think you'd've been better off not telling us that. __________________ Look at all those dead links.

10-18-2008, 10:15 AM	#28
MatiZ FFcrab Join Date: May 2008 Location: Poland Class/Position: Spectator Gametype: Fragfest (Sometimes without "r".) Affiliations: LCD Posts Rated Helpful 4 Times	Ok, devs, will you contact Valve about this kind of distribution?

10-18-2008, 10:52 AM	#30
MatiZ FFcrab Join Date: May 2008 Location: Poland Class/Position: Spectator Gametype: Fragfest (Sometimes without "r".) Affiliations: LCD Posts Rated Helpful 4 Times	Man, Insurgency is running on EP1 build of engine, so why FF can't be on Steam and running old engine?

10-18-2008, 04:51 PM	#34
OneManArmy Ka-boom! Join Date: May 2008 Location: Ukraine Class/Position: Demo, Solly, Pyro Gametype: CTF Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	One thing that is really worth the conversion is particle system

10-19-2008, 12:15 AM	#39
chilledsanity D&A Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Gametype: AvD, I/D, waterpolo, hunted Posts Rated Helpful 6 Times	Hey I have a question. With something like Steamworks, will I basically be screwed for recording demos in the future? Right now if I want to watch something from 1.0 I can at least install that version of the mod and play it back that way. If the mod is updated on the fly, I'm guessing there's no way to keep track of any version consistency and I don't know of any other way of playing it back aside from in-game.

10-19-2008, 01:25 AM	#40
Circuitous Useless Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jun 2005 Class/Position: D Soldier, O Scout Gametype: AvD Posts Rated Helpful 9 Times	I never thought about that. Is this an issue in existing Steamworks mods? SOMEBODY CHECK AAAAH. __________________ Look at all those dead links.

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