where i see this game going...

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while playing this game thinking how awesome it is i realize that this game will eventually die. as a great game that it is id like to see this game thrive and become full again as it deserves to be. ive played the game and it brings the old-school gaming into a new era its awesome! (given that i didn't get a chance to play doom, quake, or even original half life games.) bunny hoping ive always loved that. sure in its last stand (it was a way to avoid snipers) but b4 that it was essential to the game. love this game as much as i love tf2 its great game (yea i call it a game because it could be a standalone with all its content hell id actually pay for a game like this given that its much more touched up but still.)


lets get to the point
enough of that now to the actual point of why im writing this really long essay like post. now i like this game as a whole but sometimes i feel that this game is to complicated in some areas and not complicated enough in others. or it has technical issues i feel hold this game back.

1.) Identity
what is this game a copy of tfc or is it its own game. the argument is irrelevant here is the basic facts. not trying to be rude but heres the blunt truth. that just because a few tf2 holdouts don't wanna move on to what tf2 is doesn't mean that you should just make it just like tfc. if you want that go play tfc, really people still play that game. while this game was based off of tfc it doesn't mean that it just mimics tfc how far will that get you (let me think no where.) why because the only people that will stick around are tf2 holdouts. while everyone else will go play tf2 and move on and pretty soon it will really die.

now it should keep some of its tfc origin and charm it should start evolving into its own game made by the developers. yea i never said it should completely stray away from tfc but don't strive to make it just like tfc. make it your very own work of art make it have elements from tfc and other older games sure since that is still the goal however don't hesitate to add things in that don't reflect tfc in fact every time you think it doesn't sound like tfc enough give your self a good spanking. http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...0105125AAtee9e

as disturbing as that was you can just hit your head against a wall it will suffice. anyways back to the point how did all these games get developed well it started with hard work (you guys got that part down just perfectly. bu you can always work harder.) they also had direction this is how you get work done everyone has to be on the same page. your mappers you the developers, the advertisement division everyone. then the community will jump on the band wagon. Ive heard on the forums that the problem with making changes is that the maps need changes to accommodate what you do in the game. well guess what you the developers are making the game they need everyone to be working with them seeing the same vision they're seeing. its not the mappers that are in charge but the game developers. you guys need to realize this.

while this is harder said than done you need to develop a standard for maps i feel using a slightly more futuristic type maps instead of ammo bags energy columns that heal you and give you ammo kinda like a dispenser. i also like how some of the ctf maps kinda have a halo feel (what im more describing is that it needs to feel futuristic but still ancient.) i like that but there needs to be standard for your maps instead of a bunch of different ideas and all types of maps and textures the reason tf2 is successful because it has standards, halo is successful is because all the maps have the same stuff in them used in different ways. you believe all of them in the same universe that's what needs to happen. this may take time but it needs to happen for you to prosper.

you have to figure out how to market this game, make more awesome you-tube videos that show the game for the awesome old school game that it is. also the name is great love the name you have to keep it but you also have to figure out a way to get it to the masses otherwise well the game just sits under the radar. try hooking up with steam so you can download it off of steam. instead of just the site. if that's possible? love me some auto updates.

this is a very hard marketing system i get that but something has to get this game out there. facebook, youtube, etc... hell even advertisements.

2.) weapon redundancy, class role clarity
well this is one of those problems that keeps me from thinking of this a pc title. ok so lets see here you got everyone with a super shotgun just about. also just about every every class has a super shotgun and every class has a regular shotgun. (do we really need that really i mean we have a million ammo you never gonna run out.) you need to streamline the system so that only classes without this super shotgun has a regular shotgun.

also does a sniper really need a nail gun is that something you just tacked on i mean really it just feels cheap to me. what really i cant understand is why the spy has a shotgun, really why a shotgun that just hurts spy suppose to be stealthy sure its functional but it doesn't feel like a spy how about a silenced uzi like weapon then it at-least feels like a spy or even a silenced shotgun. some classes should have a shotgun (soldier) but not everyone you need more weapons other types of weapons variation make each class unique and different. like what tf2 did the only thing i don't like was that over half the classes had a shotgun but they fixed that.

now the little things like what to do about the pyro i say give him an awesome compression blast this blast can reflect all projectiles like in tf2 why because it'd be awesome and it really make the pyro useful in a skill based game like this pyro could be devastating. tf2 its not a huge advantage because of lack of speed in the game made it good but not as useful. it cant reflect sniper shots (and other laser weaponry.) itd make the pyro stand a chance and actually i think its be used in competitive because of the air-blast that now makes the pyro a force to be reckoned with. im not saying look to tf2 for all your answers but its successful and air-blast would improve the pyro so much. also the pyro secondary weapon looks really unnatural just weird to look at.

while this might be a little nit-picky why does everyone why does everyone have a crowbar why not something else why not a frying pan here and a crowbar there or maybe even a skull. have fun with it.

now why is there armor armor makes the game more complicated and raises the learning curve all when its not really necessary. just use hp im sure your working on that.

also whats with the fact that everyone has every type of ammo to start i really hate this its makes life more complicated and annoying just make em carry round the ammo they need. have ammo bags for everything else.

also one thing those ammo packs really are annoying how about a energy beam or something something standard but doest look strange if you really wanna go old school if its grenades make a giant floating grenade if bullets make it giant floating bullets. etc... i think that would add to the game tats just me.

3.) sentries
ok so now were finally here to a problem your currently working hard to solve sentries. i personally think your busy thinking inside the box on a problem that could be much easier solved outside the box why you ask i believe the engineer needs a bit of a rework. why because so far you seem to be getting no where now. instead of making this whole game more like tfc you could develop your own engineer to fit this game sure he could have a wrench (make a wrench that looks like your logo that be bad-ass.) the engineer plays a different role than he does in tfc or tf2.

so maybe just maybe, (i know this could be to good of an idea.) instead of saying that he has to be like this because he was like that in tfc (this game aint tfc.) so make him the fortress forever engineer sure he'll still build those sentry's but it could be different than in tfc his style of play metal could not even be a factor you could rework. or those weird orb things. lvls 1,2,3 could be a completely different from how strong they are but rather how they function, like 1 could be an offensive, level 2 could be balanced and 3 could be pure defense. and maybe you don't upgrade them but pick which type of sentry you want to build. like this,

a.)lvl 1 sentry model. a sentry designed for offense fast build and requires
little to no maintenance. however doesn't do that much damage has no knock back can run out of ammo. (the stats of the gunz them selves can be revised only if the build times and concepts remain the same.) while having a week gun it has more hp than a lvl 2.

b.) looks like lvl 2 sentry. a sentry that requires a reasonable amount of maintenance builds slower than the offensive sentry. and has more damage and knock back than the previous. can run out of ammo. and has more hp than a lvl 3. no shield.

c.) lvl 3 sentry model. this sentry is a power house of a sentry it has rockets but requires a lot of maintenance. has lots of knock-back does not quite as much as lvl 2 sentry. runs out of ammo fast and has less hp. but a small shield to protect some from explosives.

that's just an idea either way the sentry needs fixing quite possibly the whole engineer class. don't tell me that its to much work to do this, don't short your game from the potential that it has i wanna see some heart. do what it takes to make the game better even if it takes a year to implement this. find the best solution. whether its easy or hard and alot of work.

4.) nit pickin this might just be nit picky but i feel that some polishing is in order to. now tell me why is it that all time bombs (or pipe if play tf2) all blue no mater what team your on. what about sniper red dot sight that's also always red i feel that should be team colored. why are the soldiers rocket tips always red. what about he flames from teh rocket why aren't blue times blue. i feel that this would be a great addition to fix some of this now this may come much later down the line i thinks its something you should consider on your list. at least fix the pipes that be something nice.

changes i would make
changes that i would make is some stuff that i feel is outa whack but probably everybody else.

the medics poison ability i feel is not something a medic needs or at least have a way to cure it better. id really like to see the spy with the poison ability even more i feel its fits the espionage theme better.

concussion grenades well i hates these things why because there effect is OP plain and simple for a fast paced game losing the ability ot aim is just to powerful and pretty much leaves you dead, my suggestions are simple make it have impact damage to enemy's. or push you back and take fall damage no matter what. something like that. like the pushing back don't like the stun i feel its not necessary.

another thing i find annoying is that there is to much ammo but really kinda like never having to look for any also on a/d maps there should be re-spawn timer. and insta spawn just because people want isn't always better.

conclusion

now as i was saying you've done a great job making a wonderful mod and almost a great game in it self sadly not standalone but none the less a great game. id love to see what you do next even if its not on this page. i will come back and edit this in case it doesn't make sense.

now how do i play this game if i can complain this much i love it its just what i think would help make it better.