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Old 06-16-2011, 03:28 AM   #1
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Death From Above 1979

Wallhacking in talos @ 9:15pm 6/15/2011

Demo is here
http://www.sendspace.com/file/sao1yy

"death from above 1979" STEAM_0:0:36208003
All servers please ban .

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Old 06-16-2011, 08:03 PM   #2
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Hmmm, just watched it, initially it didn't look like much, he's not playing to a very high standard, I've taken faster shots and been called a cheater many times, but nearing the end, he does seem to know where their sniper is a bit to well.

Not sure if it's damning evidence, but it does look bad for him.

And to be honest, even if he isn't wallhacking, he should still be banned from FF just for using that soundboard. It gets SO ANNOYING. After every kill all you hear is "would you look at that", any soundboard should be illegal. I've heard multiple people with that, ruins games. And what sort of impression does it give to new players.
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Old 06-16-2011, 10:15 PM   #3
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haha I think that soundboard is hilarious.
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Old 06-16-2011, 10:56 PM   #4
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yes you are right about the last part being the most obvious, he shot the damn wall 3 times trying to get him (HELLO RED FLAG!). I sniped against him and I could already tell that he was. I am 100% sure he was using them. The timing of coming out, look for the enemy sniper, and put the dot right on him was way to fast. There was some points I couldn't even react. Soon as he came out, I could see the red laser right on me every time instantly and I moved around a lot on the battlements. That does not happen as often as it did without wallhacks. But I did have a 1:2 kill death ratio against him
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Old 06-16-2011, 10:58 PM   #5
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well would you look at that

I MEAN LOOK AT IT

IT'S NOT EVEN A WALLHACK
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Old 06-16-2011, 11:00 PM   #6
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ok if you do not want to call it a wallhack, so be it. But you can NOT say he could not see through the walls.
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Old 06-17-2011, 12:52 AM   #7
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'kay

He couldn't see through the walls.
A) most of the time it was damn obvious where your buttbuddy LM was.
B) no proof that nobody on the enemy team didn't just teamchat the location of the sniper at the end.

Get a server side demo or better proof.
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Old 06-17-2011, 01:09 AM   #8
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Old 06-17-2011, 11:11 PM   #9
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raynian, it was really childish of you to make that post and insulting me like that. I like playing in pub servers and never yell or rage new players that are still developing. I like playing sniper and I am pretty damn good at it. I have played against snipers that are better than me, and I know they did not hack. You shouldn't bash me for this. From the way you respond I can tell you are not experienced with this matter. I have banned many (100+) wallhacking snipers in a TFC pub. I have seen some do it in FF. I know I am right, I caught this guy. And my response to the "teamchat nonsense". There were 3-4 other players playing CTF, they didn't flippin care about the 2 snipers going at each other.
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Old 06-18-2011, 12:20 AM   #10
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'kay

If there was stuff that was more damning than what's on that demo, fine.
But get a demo of it.

There's only one "questionable" case in that entire demo, and that's right at the very end - but you haven't crossed out all possibilities aside from hacking. So stop falling back onto it.

If you think shooting the wall a few times is hacking - no. LM was in the water for that entire segment. He wasn't even moving. I shoot the wall all the time while I'm trying to edge fight against another sniper, since I want to try to, you know, not get shot. Accidentally shooting the edge a few times is a consquence of that.

Saying you've caught hackers before is great. Doesn't change the fact that there's no proof here that he's hacking.
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Old 06-18-2011, 12:35 AM   #11
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Old 06-18-2011, 12:47 AM   #12
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how many times have you watched the demo? LM did move, he did not move dramatically too far away. He was moving side to side like most snipers do and DFA always had his dot right on him as soon as he came out not even letting a millisecond go by. He even did that to me and I was always moving while sniping and soon as he edge around the corner the laser is right on me. He had his laser behind the wall, not running on the outside. The timing is way to superior to be legit.

From someone who also knows what he is talking about...

9:57 PM - the cake (1): wow lol
9:57 PM - the cake (1): looking at him thru walls
9:58 PM - [ESAD] Sgt. Peppas: verdict?
9:58 PM - the cake (1): 90% sure
9:58 PM - the cake (1): thats hacks
9:58 PM - the cake (1): lawl
9:58 PM - the cake (1): the shit towards the end
9:59 PM - [ESAD] Sgt. Peppas: yup
9:59 PM - the cake (1): is pretty obvious
9:59 PM - [ESAD] Sgt. Peppas: thats what i said
9:59 PM - [ESAD] Sgt. Peppas: plus i was sniping against him and could tell
9:59 PM - the cake (1): he goes to the right
9:59 PM - the cake (1): cause he can see him thru the wall
9:59 PM - the cake (1): never goes right any other time
9:59 PM - the cake (1): then randomly decides to check right side
9:59 PM - the cake (1): also was pointing at him thru walls when he was in the water
9:59 PM - the cake (1): like not accidental
9:59 PM - the cake (1): changing the mouse position to his head
10:00 PM - the cake (1): while staring at the wall


How much do you pub raynian? How many times have you heard or saw your teammates type in the teamsay, "Hey sniper, the enemy sniper is over here!" "Wait he moved, he is over here now!" Wait, he moved again, he is over here!" Very rare and with the small number of people that were ctfing it up were ignoring the fact there were two snipers. The blue team was on offense and the red was defense.

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Old 06-18-2011, 12:54 AM   #13
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'kay

Server owners, make your decisions.

This conversation is over. Peppas can't get over his butthurt.
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Old 06-18-2011, 01:40 AM   #14
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Type these in the console while watching the demo to see what I'm talking about:

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Yes, "Demos look more sketchy with wallhack vision on, etc, etc..." I've already heard those kinds of arguments. I stand by what I told siscos.
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Old 06-18-2011, 03:26 AM   #15
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Old 06-18-2011, 04:25 AM   #16
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Type these in the console while watching the demo to see what I'm talking about:

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Yes, "Demos look more sketchy with wallhack vision on, etc, etc..." I've already heard those kinds of arguments. I stand by what I told siscos.
It makes the last part way too obvious as you can see he was following him through the wall even when he moved a bit. Then the other time at the end where he saw him to the right part of the yard. And also when lm faked him out by acting like he was about the jump out but didn't and he shot!

Now blinky, you still gonna ride on his pogo stick? Or do you see the logic now?

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Old 06-18-2011, 01:53 PM   #17
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Old 06-19-2011, 02:12 PM   #18
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Type these in the console while watching the demo to see what I'm talking about:

sv_cheats 1
r_drawothermodels 2

Yes, "Demos look more sketchy with wallhack vision on, etc, etc..." I've already heard those kinds of arguments. I stand by what I told siscos.
Well....
I was skeptical when I first watched this BUT, after typing those commands it looked VERY sus. Especially towards the end.

Even though the dude in the water was moving around DFA had his dot right on him from behind the wall.

To my eyes.. Very Suspect.
I don't like ppl getting banned but, I hate cheats more.

My 2 cents nothing more.
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Old 06-19-2011, 09:14 PM   #19
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Old 06-19-2011, 09:25 PM   #20
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Before I watched it without those commands and was more opposed to this. But after that. And then grabbing a demo of the King sniping. I saw a major difference between the two.

Verdict, DFA is duh bes' hacker.

Haxors,

GTFOHax,

MaximumHax,

OMG A SUPER AIR BLUEHAX,

MAC 'N HAX

HAXARONI

SPEGHAX

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I got a Fever, and the only perscription is more WALL HAX.

Obviously.


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