when there is a release....

o_nuk3m · 07-26-2006, 12:42 AM

release after TF2.
yeah i know this sounds crazy but, think of it like this

Dreamcast released 18 months before PS2, what happened? after the DC hype, all of a sudden, the anticipation for PS2 was released and then everyone jumped ship on the dreamcast and bought PS2's. everyone in this world wants a taste of everything, save the best for last, i think. idk a random post, but i think it has some merit.

even celeb's show up late to parties or whatever cause its like WoW look who it is! hehe idk just bored sitting on my laptop.

o_deadly furby · 07-26-2006, 01:24 AM

Logical thinking but, I think the mob awaiting its release is too large and dangerous to ignore.

o_binarylife · 07-26-2006, 01:45 AM

To follow your example; there were inherent flaws in PS2's production line which caused a recall and gave a great deal more numbers to its competetive systems.

In the world of computer gaming the fans are genrealy loyale to a game.
However, I to agree to some extent with your logic based on my own desire to try new, however simaler games.

This is of course assuming that to two games wont be so different ion style from each other that they will feel as if they are two different games. It may be possible that the two co-exist based on different players.

o_nezumi · 07-26-2006, 01:32 PM

The problem here is that TF2 is the celebrity, not FF. FF would be the cult classic character actor.

Or something.

Anyway the DC didn't sell because there were no games for it. And I don't mean that in the 'there were some but seriously who would bother spending money on any of them' kind of way that PS2 and xbox had no games. The DreamCast had no games.

o_kastofsna · 07-26-2006, 01:50 PM

yeah, it really helped nintendo by releasing the N64 a full year after the PSX.

o_dancingfool · 07-26-2006, 01:51 PM

Comon Nezumi, there was that one racing game and Sonic, and.....and that port of Rainbow Six and....so yeah there were games.

o_puppychow · 07-26-2006, 02:06 PM

ff needs to come out asap as there is a lull in quality mods being released...but on the horizon is nuclear dawn (http://www.nuclear-dawn.net/), sourceball (http://www.sourceball.com/), and caliber (http://www.calibermod.com/) - all promising mods, all look really cool and will take up players time, so i think getting out before those would be helpful.

in terms of tf2, again i think its important to get out there first, but when tf2 comes out, i fully expect a decent hit of FF playerbase that will last a month or two, after which gamers will go back to or stick with the game they like the best.

but its actually a really exciting time to be a gamer i think...so much will be available between fall of 06 and spring of 07.

o_dancingfool · 07-26-2006, 02:12 PM

OMG PUPPYCHOW WTF?! YOU FORGOT INSURGENCY!

www.insurgencymod.net Site's down atm.

o_puppychow · 07-26-2006, 02:22 PM

meh, i didnt include it as i cant even look at another "realistic" war shooter/CS clone without puking. others may love it.

o_dancingfool · 07-26-2006, 02:23 PM

lol, this one is realistic.

Jiggles · 07-26-2006, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Nezumi

Anyway the DC didn't sell because there were no games for it. And I don't mean that in the 'there were some but seriously who would bother spending money on any of them' kind of way that PS2 and xbox had no games. The DreamCast had no games.

The DC did have a fair number of good games, though it was rather slanted to certain categories (fighting games, for instance). Off the top of my head: Soul Calibur, Marvel vs Capcom (1&2), Sonic Adventure (1&2), Grandia II, and Resident Evil: Code Veronica. I don't think I could name that many good PS2 games in its first year of existence.

In my opinion, the DC failed for 3 reasons:

Sega just wasn't that smart of a company. The Genesis was a big success (moreso in the US), but all of Sega's other systems had much more limited success.
Piracy - the DC was absurdly easy to pirate games on. The fact that you could just DL an image, burn it onto a CD, and play (with no system modification) was a huge blow to the DC.
The biggest reason the DC failed was pure hype. The first Playstation was a smashing success, and Sony promised the world with its "Emotion Engine." In reality, the actual graphics chip put into the PS2 was weaker than the one demoed. Also, it took almost a year for developers to figure out the PS2 - in the mean time, PS2 games were plauged by the dreaded "jaggies." These shortcomings didn't matter, though, since the DC was long since killed by hype.

Well, I went pretty off topic. Sorry

o_tu! · 07-26-2006, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by puppychow

ff needs to come out asap as there is a lull in quality mods being released...but on the horizon is nuclear dawn (http://www.nuclear-dawn.net/), sourceball (http://www.sourceball.com/), and caliber (http://www.calibermod.com/) - all promising mods, all look really cool and will take up players time, so i think getting out before those would be helpful.

in terms of tf2, again i think its important to get out there first, but when tf2 comes out, i fully expect a decent hit of FF playerbase that will last a month or two, after which gamers will go back to or stick with the game they like the best.

but its actually a really exciting time to be a gamer i think...so much will be available between fall of 06 and spring of 07.

holy cow i was looking @ the nuclear dawn media section...god those maps/models look sOOOoOOoOOooOOooooooooo detailed/pretty.

o_kastofsna · 07-26-2006, 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DancingFool

OMG PUPPYCHOW WTF?! YOU FORGOT INSURGENCY!

www.insurgencymod.net Site's down atm.

WOW!! it looks JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER realistic FPS ever made!!!!!

o_dancingfool · 07-26-2006, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kastofsna

WOW!! it looks JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER realistic FPS ever made!!!!!

Naw aw.

Dospac · 07-26-2006, 07:43 PM

Photoshop *cough*

Quote:

holy cow i was looking @ the nuclear dawn media section...god those maps/models look sOOOoOOoOOooOOooooooooo detailed/pretty.

o_radio · 07-26-2006, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tu!

holy cow i was looking @ the nuclear dawn media section...god those maps/models look sOOOoOOoOOooOOooooooooo detailed/pretty.

people still fall for this trick?

o_puppychow · 07-26-2006, 08:54 PM

ya there seems to be alot of drama with this mod and Dave L...whats the scuttlebut?

o_tennovan · 07-27-2006, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dospac

Photoshop *cough*

I'll believe Nuclear Dawn exists when the game is released.

o_addicted to morphine · 07-27-2006, 01:37 PM

Well, considering one of their mappers got hired over his tokyo map, I'd hope they didn't photoshop anything (I'm not counting sharpening images, because I know they do that) serious.

o_industrial · 07-28-2006, 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DancingFool

lol, this one is realistic.

Thats what we said with doom 2; wow this one is so real. Now look where we are.

07-26-2006, 12:42 AM	#1
o_nuk3m Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Jersy, USA! reppin' Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	when there is a release.... release after TF2. yeah i know this sounds crazy but, think of it like this Dreamcast released 18 months before PS2, what happened? after the DC hype, all of a sudden, the anticipation for PS2 was released and then everyone jumped ship on the dreamcast and bought PS2's. everyone in this world wants a taste of everything, save the best for last, i think. idk a random post, but i think it has some merit. even celeb's show up late to parties or whatever cause its like WoW look who it is! hehe idk just bored sitting on my laptop.

07-26-2006, 02:12 PM	#8
o_dancingfool Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	OMG PUPPYCHOW WTF?! YOU FORGOT INSURGENCY! www.insurgencymod.net Site's down atm. Last edited by o_dancingfool; 07-26-2006 at 02:22 PM.

07-26-2006, 01:24 AM	#2
o_deadly furby Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cell Block 17 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Logical thinking but, I think the mob awaiting its release is too large and dangerous to ignore.

07-26-2006, 01:45 AM	#3
o_binarylife Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	To follow your example; there were inherent flaws in PS2's production line which caused a recall and gave a great deal more numbers to its competetive systems. In the world of computer gaming the fans are genrealy loyale to a game. However, I to agree to some extent with your logic based on my own desire to try new, however simaler games. This is of course assuming that to two games wont be so different ion style from each other that they will feel as if they are two different games. It may be possible that the two co-exist based on different players.

07-26-2006, 01:32 PM	#4
o_nezumi Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Peoples Republic of Harmfull Free Radicals Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	The problem here is that TF2 is the celebrity, not FF. FF would be the cult classic character actor. Or something. Anyway the DC didn't sell because there were no games for it. And I don't mean that in the 'there were some but seriously who would bother spending money on any of them' kind of way that PS2 and xbox had no games. The DreamCast had no games.

07-26-2006, 01:50 PM	#5
o_kastofsna Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	yeah, it really helped nintendo by releasing the N64 a full year after the PSX.

07-26-2006, 01:51 PM	#6
o_dancingfool Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Comon Nezumi, there was that one racing game and Sonic, and.....and that port of Rainbow Six and....so yeah there were games.

07-26-2006, 02:06 PM	#7
o_puppychow Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Washington DC Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	ff needs to come out asap as there is a lull in quality mods being released...but on the horizon is nuclear dawn (http://www.nuclear-dawn.net/), sourceball (http://www.sourceball.com/), and caliber (http://www.calibermod.com/) - all promising mods, all look really cool and will take up players time, so i think getting out before those would be helpful. in terms of tf2, again i think its important to get out there first, but when tf2 comes out, i fully expect a decent hit of FF playerbase that will last a month or two, after which gamers will go back to or stick with the game they like the best. but its actually a really exciting time to be a gamer i think...so much will be available between fall of 06 and spring of 07.

07-26-2006, 02:22 PM	#9
o_puppychow Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Washington DC Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	meh, i didnt include it as i cant even look at another "realistic" war shooter/CS clone without puking. others may love it.

07-26-2006, 02:23 PM	#10
o_dancingfool Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	lol, this one is realistic.

07-26-2006, 08:54 PM	#17
o_puppychow Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Washington DC Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	ya there seems to be alot of drama with this mod and Dave L...whats the scuttlebut?

07-27-2006, 01:37 PM	#19
o_addicted to morphine Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: East Coast, USA Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Well, considering one of their mappers got hired over his tokyo map, I'd hope they didn't photoshop anything (I'm not counting sharpening images, because I know they do that) serious.

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