lack of players

davio28 · 11-14-2007, 05:52 AM

I admit i havent played FF in a while and tonight i played it again. My server list showed only 3 servers with players on.

When i got on the server i asked if everyone got the same results to which i got the reply YES.

they said only about 3 servers with players on it nowadays is this right? Is it bad info or has FF really died?

I got to say i love this mod and i also love TF2. Ive read this forum for at least a year previous to release and thought the community was strong enough to provide a good player base.

Its looking now as though i was wrong is this really the way it is?

It really is a shame for the community around this game and the people who made it. This mod was very well done.

Plz someone tell me iam wrong!!!

11-14-2007, 10:02 AM

I don't really play unless when I check for servers there is one running a CTF map with people in it.

Mister.D · 11-14-2007, 10:36 AM

To tell you the truth, any HL2 mod is a hard sell at this point..

Too many great new things coming out, not as much attention on the mod scene as there used to be..

CaLeB- · 11-14-2007, 10:49 AM

This is why we need to advertise it. Here are a few ideas.

If you go to other forums, put some kind of reference to Fortress Forever in your signature (banners, etc.), and link it to the website.
Try to invite people into the official Fortress Forever Steam Community group. Hey, maybe they'll see what Fortress Forever is and play it (if they have no clue).

Paft · 11-14-2007, 10:54 AM

LOCK

Doompiggy · 11-14-2007, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Mister.D

To tell you the truth, any HL2 mod is a hard sell at this point...

NOT GARRYS MOD!

GhostBuster · 11-14-2007, 12:41 PM

This mod has way too many tecnical glitches yet, the inestability is huge. I hope they get this issue before than ANYTHING, if i wasnt that "hardcore tfc/ff gaming style fan" player and if tfc havent died in my country i would uninstalled the mod like weeks ago...

GambiT · 11-14-2007, 12:50 PM

go into a server and wait. just wait.

we(2-3 of us) go into our server and start playing and within minutes ppl are joining. we'll jump up to 12 ppl before the end of the map.

EngeeMan · 11-14-2007, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Sasuke~!

NOT GARRYS MOD!

Garry's Mod was very original, nothing really had existed like that in online PC shooters up until that point. Running around with buds and building contraptions and scripting your own gamemode. There was a vacuum for creativity-based mods in Half-Life 2 and Gmod filled that void.

What mods are out for Half-Life 2 now?

Insurgency. DoD/CS in the desert. Dead.
Zombie Master. You know how many zombie mods there are for Gmod, CS, DoD, and probably HL2: DM? And yet someone makes ANOTHER zombie mod. Dead.
Pirates Vikings Knights 2. Sequel to unpopular mod is unpopular. Dead.
The Ship. Technically a retail mod, but see the comment for PVK2. Dead.
Dystopia. I actually liked this, but the map design had horrible chokepoints. Suicide.
The Hidden: Source. WAY WAY easy to cheat on this and ruin the entire point fo the game. Dead.
Then there are a bunch of deathmatch mods that are all dead as well.

If someone comes up with an original game experience that isn't just a rehash of either older mods/games or slight tweaks of current mods/games then they can do well. Rehashing a good game again leads to failure, and rehashing the a game that was unpopular leads to epic failure.

4est · 11-14-2007, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GhostBuster

This mod has way too many tecnical glitches yet, the inestability is huge. I hope they get this issue before than ANYTHING, if i wasnt that "hardcore tfc/ff gaming style fan" player and if tfc havent died in my country i would uninstalled the mod like weeks ago...

Instability?

What instability? the 1.1 patch basically fixed instability problems. If a person has any issues, they need to look at their own system and drivers.

GhostBuster · 11-14-2007, 02:26 PM

How about the random crashes or the "CL_CopyExistingEntity: missing Client entity xxx" that hunt almost all the players i know.

Its time to say stop to the "its just ur computer, not the mods fault" when all the other source mods run smooth plus at least the 60% of the players have this errors.

4est · 11-14-2007, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GhostBuster

How about the random crashes or the "CL_CopyExistingEntity: missing Client entity xxx" that hunt almost all the players i know.

Its time to say stop to the "its just ur computer, not the mods fault" when all the other source mods run smooth plus at least the 60% of the players have this errors.

ORLY?

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Originally Posted by GhostBuster

yeah tell me about it, it isnt the gamers choice, all the big fat server hosts with big communities put only craked servers since counter strike 1.5... so they logic is, "we give a shit if they buy the game or not, we only care our servers get filled" and that mixed with the fact that half life reached way too late argentina (plus it was and IS expensive for our pocket)...

Not a bunch but the 95% of the players of steam games play with craked games right here, and in a way it isnt or fault the games took too long to reach our country and when they do they are too expensive, what should we do in the meantime "oh lets wait some months till hl/hl2 reach our country with a out-of-our-range prince, then wait some years till the price drops... and then if we are lucky we can find a legal server around there"... come on.

You are playing on cracked servers. I would think that throws some other things into the mix. Don't be so fast to point fingers at FF.

As far as I know, 0% of the Devs and Beta testers get these two errors. I think there is more to the story than just blaming FF.

Hammock · 11-14-2007, 02:53 PM

/shrug I still get random crashes to server select screen. It happens on different servers

Atleast I'm not randomly crashing to desktop anymore though. But yes I still get booted out of the game occasionally.

I deal with it though, others can't.

Cheers,
Hammock

Business · 11-14-2007, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davio28

they said only about 3 servers with players on it nowadays is this right? Is it bad info or has FF really died?

Coming from HL2CTF mod, I can say: Learn to love it.

Also throw in some e-drama every now and again to keep things fresh.

GhostBuster · 11-14-2007, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4est

ORLY?

You are playing on cracked servers. I would think that throws some other things into the mix. Don't be so fast to point fingers at FF.

As far as I know, 0% of the Devs and Beta testers get these two errors. I think there is more to the story than just blaming FF.

ORLY?

Maybe... thats and old post.. and maybe Veekachu gifted me an hl2, maybe i created a clan named soldiers of the night (-sN-, +9 players) with soulja and maybe i play everyday FF on legal servers with legal steam getting skilled ppl aboard the clan and organizating scrims... maybe our clan even has a legal server... what the hell, maybe even there is a freaking FORUM LEADER on our clan...

And maybe i see everyday people getting owned by those 2 errors, maybe there are threads with lots of ppl having this things such as
http://www.fortress-forever.com/foru...ad.php?t=10661
http://www.fortress-forever.com/foru...ad.php?t=12943
http://www.fortress-forever.com/foru...ad.php?t=12878
http://www.fortress-forever.com/foru...ad.php?t=12356

Dont get me wrong, i love this mod, but the first step to solve the problems is admiting there is a problem, and the problem is FF is not ready for clan-style matchs and leagues due the random crashing stuff.

Skillet · 11-14-2007, 03:29 PM

RAWR, I just had a great game last night on sN server on this congestus map! I never get this error you are speaking of though ghostbuster, did you try reinstalling and redownloaded steam and games?

OWNER OF NOOBS,

SKILLET!

Dr.Uudge · 11-14-2007, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paft

LOCK

agreed; op, ffs give the mod some time, it's only on its first patch for cryin out loud

4est · 11-14-2007, 03:32 PM

OK, more info is good info.

Give the devs as many details on the errors as possible. Things such as:

maps
if you notice any triggers
full or partially empty servers
One class or any class

Basically, just give any info that you see as being common during an error. Also, keep and eye on the Help and Tips area at the STEAM forums. Some errors/bugs are common to multiple games and mods.

OH... and check Google for CL_CopyExistingEntity too. It gives about 92 results across multiple games.

Hammock · 11-14-2007, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skillet

RAWR, I just had a great game last night on sN server on this congestus map! I never get this error you are speaking of though ghostbuster, did you try reinstalling and redownloaded steam and games?

OWNER OF NOOBS,

SKILLET!

You have an sN server now Ghostbuster? What's the ip?

Cheers,
Hammock

~kev~ · 11-14-2007, 04:33 PM

IBTL!!!!

My answer as to why there are not that many players - what should have happened, what could have happened and what did happen is in the past.

FF is one of the best mods I have ever seen. In all of my gaming experiences, just like in real life, sometimes bad things happen to good mods.

11-14-2007, 05:52 AM	#1
davio28 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Calgary,Canada Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	lack of players I admit i havent played FF in a while and tonight i played it again. My server list showed only 3 servers with players on. When i got on the server i asked if everyone got the same results to which i got the reply YES. they said only about 3 servers with players on it nowadays is this right? Is it bad info or has FF really died? I got to say i love this mod and i also love TF2. Ive read this forum for at least a year previous to release and thought the community was strong enough to provide a good player base. Its looking now as though i was wrong is this really the way it is? It really is a shame for the community around this game and the people who made it. This mod was very well done. Plz someone tell me iam wrong!!!

11-14-2007, 10:49 AM	#4
CaLeB- Whitest Kid You Know Beta Tester Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 6 Times	This is why we need to advertise it. Here are a few ideas. If you go to other forums, put some kind of reference to Fortress Forever in your signature (banners, etc.), and link it to the website. Try to invite people into the official Fortress Forever Steam Community group. Hey, maybe they'll see what Fortress Forever is and play it (if they have no clue). __________________ Oh, man... More armor for the win, yeah?

11-14-2007, 10:54 AM	#5
Paft Beta Tester Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: UK - http://forums.fortress-forever.com Class/Position: [O] Med Gametype: CTF/Skills Posts Rated Helpful 67 Times	LOCK __________________ TFC Resource TFC/FF/TF2 customs at: ZZUBYTTIHS - www.tfcgaschamber.com - www.ozfortress.com - www.fpsbanana.com - mrclan.com - TFC Essentials Jan 2012 Last edited by Paft; 11-14-2007 at 11:17 AM.

11-14-2007, 12:50 PM	#8
GambiT Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Baton Rouge Class/Position: Spy Affiliations: -=DoM=- Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	go into a server and wait. just wait. we(2-3 of us) go into our server and start playing and within minutes ppl are joining. we'll jump up to 12 ppl before the end of the map. __________________ -------------------------------FF_Rock2(WIP)------------------------------ ---------------------------FF_RedGiant(Released)------------------------- --------------------------FF_Fragzone_G(Released)------------------------ --------------------------FF_Civibash_G(Released)------------------------ -------------------FF_Conc_G1(WIP)-------------------- -------------------FF_Hollow_G(WIP)---------------------

11-14-2007, 03:32 PM	#18
4est Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: OK Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	OK, more info is good info. Give the devs as many details on the errors as possible. Things such as: maps if you notice any triggers full or partially empty servers One class or any class Basically, just give any info that you see as being common during an error. Also, keep and eye on the Help and Tips area at the STEAM forums. Some errors/bugs are common to multiple games and mods. OH... and check Google for CL_CopyExistingEntity too. It gives about 92 results across multiple games. __________________ Welcome to ZOMBOCOM! Support FF: Last edited by 4est; 11-14-2007 at 03:41 PM.

11-14-2007, 10:02 AM	#2
vtrickzv Guest Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	I don't really play unless when I check for servers there is one running a CTF map with people in it.

11-14-2007, 10:36 AM	#3
Mister.D Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	To tell you the truth, any HL2 mod is a hard sell at this point.. Too many great new things coming out, not as much attention on the mod scene as there used to be..

11-14-2007, 12:41 PM	#7
GhostBuster SHUT UP AND SWALLOW Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Argentina Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	This mod has way too many tecnical glitches yet, the inestability is huge. I hope they get this issue before than ANYTHING, if i wasnt that "hardcore tfc/ff gaming style fan" player and if tfc havent died in my country i would uninstalled the mod like weeks ago...

11-14-2007, 02:26 PM	#11
GhostBuster SHUT UP AND SWALLOW Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Argentina Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	How about the random crashes or the "CL_CopyExistingEntity: missing Client entity xxx" that hunt almost all the players i know. Its time to say stop to the "its just ur computer, not the mods fault" when all the other source mods run smooth plus at least the 60% of the players have this errors.

11-14-2007, 02:53 PM	#13
Hammock D&A Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 13 Times	/shrug I still get random crashes to server select screen. It happens on different servers Atleast I'm not randomly crashing to desktop anymore though. But yes I still get booted out of the game occasionally. I deal with it though, others can't. Cheers, Hammock

11-14-2007, 03:29 PM	#16
Skillet Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	RAWR, I just had a great game last night on sN server on this congestus map! I never get this error you are speaking of though ghostbuster, did you try reinstalling and redownloaded steam and games? OWNER OF NOOBS, SKILLET!

11-14-2007, 04:33 PM	#20
~kev~ pmagnvs Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: East Texas Class/Position: Engineer - D Gametype: Free for all CTF - no stupid clan rules Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	IBTL!!!! My answer as to why there are not that many players - what should have happened, what could have happened and what did happen is in the past. FF is one of the best mods I have ever seen. In all of my gaming experiences, just like in real life, sometimes bad things happen to good mods.

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