Files Are Not for Sharing - Page 3

o_ivaqual · 06-27-2006, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Etzell

Actually, downloading music is the reason I have almost all the Grave Digger CDs and plan to finish that collection. What I do is download a shitload of songs, go through, see if I like the band, if I do, download a few more, and then start buying albums.

What I'm saying is that the number of people that do what they say in regard to their downloading habits is very little compared to the total downloader population. You are part of an infinitesimal minority. Good for you.

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Originally Posted by 651ett

I just can't see the point in actually having to spend my hard earned money. Hell, my torrent of Command and Conquer just did that little pop up window because it just got finished.

Indecency and shortness of sight at its best.

The bottom line is, you have no excuse for getting for free what people are trying to sell you. Unless you truely "listen, then buy/delete" (<= a very honourable use of P2P, but then again : can't you listen to albums in a store) you have no moral right on earth to do that.

o_mescalito · 06-27-2006, 06:04 PM

Like Etzell and FT, i wouldn't have more then half of my CD's if i weren't P2Ping them first. Wouldn't be aware to a lot of music too.
You are right though, i still havn't deleted/bought all of the music i d/loded.
So you think a few artists or record labels got ripped by me? By the fact that i own an mp3 version of their music? I don't care. Others gained.

Moral or not, bottom line is, mp3's can't replace an actual CD.
If it's good enough, i'll prolly buy it eventually. It's a process. I allready got all the good Pink Floyd albums, like 8 albums.
You can't listen to their (and many others. unless it's pop music) stuff in a store. Some music needs to grow up on you before you can understand it.

Dunno where movies stand in all of this though. I never rent/buy DVD's and don't go to the cinema anymore. I just watch the pirated version on my 17 inch monitor

o_ivaqual · 06-27-2006, 06:07 PM

Now, Mesc, that's a whole different matter. As I said I am as guilty as others of what I do with my connection and that why or why not you should do it is an issue of law and morality. The thing that drives me into walls is seeing people feel they are entitled and perfectly in the right to get things you have to pay for, for free. I could let go if someone stole food because he was starving but it's not like you need all that music on your computer. And you are right about listening to stuff in stores, but it's still a point.
I can't see how the issue would be different with movies.

o_frenchtoast · 06-27-2006, 06:08 PM

I usually rent the movie then rip it to my computer, put it on my iPod, and watch it on the way to school. I can say though, with 100% certainty, I have never downloaded a movie. Those are different than music imo, more work went into them, more people involved etc. Far different than downloading a song off an album.

o_mescalito · 06-27-2006, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by nagual678

Now, Mesc, that's a whole different matter. As I said I am as guilty as others of what I do with my connection and that why or why not you should do it is an issue of law and morality. The thing that drives me into walls is seeing people feel they are entitled and perfectly in the right to get things you have to pay for, for free. I could let go if someone stole food because he was starving but it's not like you need all that music on your computer. And you are right about listening to stuff in stores, but it's still a point.
I can't see how the issue would be different with movies.

Yeah i'm with you. It's all just smartassised excuses.
RIAA are still out of the line though and Sony is plain lame.
But that got nothing to do with the actual music/movies ofcource.

o_|404|innoc-tpf- · 06-27-2006, 06:14 PM

Sony knows it overstepped with the DRM nonsense and they were rebuked for it.. As to whether that casts a shadow on Bluray remains to be seen. Personally I'd like to see Bluray fail for that reason.

o_ivaqual · 06-27-2006, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 651ett

Well apparently God has given me an excuse since I do it every single day.

And FrenchToast, I'm the spoiled white kid? You've got a fucking video ipod.

Get banned. Seriously.

o_frenchtoast · 06-27-2006, 06:14 PM

Nothing to do with God giving you an excuse, it's go to do with 'Indecency and shortness of sight at its best.'

EDIT: 651, you're the spoiled white kid. You're ignorant too. You're advertising the KKK and saying there's nothing wrong with what you do on the internet. And my iPod? That makes me spoiled? I had to pay for that with the money I earned from my job. I'd say I'm very priviledged and not always aware of how easy I get it, but I wouldn't consider myself spoiled.

o_frenchtoast · 06-27-2006, 06:20 PM

You're clearly not that bright. I call you a wigger because you make page long posts in big red letters. I call you a wigger to push your buttons because it's funny. Advertising the KKK is stupid. You really do have to be an asshole to do that.

o_frenchtoast · 06-27-2006, 06:29 PM

...no, it's because it gets you fired up and upset.

o_frenchtoast · 06-27-2006, 06:33 PM

That was due to the stupid hip-hop caps lock posts that drove everyone nuts.

o_loader · 06-27-2006, 07:03 PM

The KKK comment was about your Signature..

Circuitous · 06-27-2006, 07:34 PM

I saw this documentary called "Hate Rock."

Basically it proved that racists suck at making music.

o_etzell · 06-27-2006, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 651ett

I'm just quoting him, I saw it on some PBS documentary.

Oh, so it's OK when someone else says it?

...Idiot. (It's ok, many others have said it who AREN'T me.)

06-27-2006, 07:34 PM	#53
Circuitous Useless Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jun 2005 Class/Position: D Soldier, O Scout Gametype: AvD Posts Rated Helpful 9 Times	I saw this documentary called "Hate Rock." Basically it proved that racists suck at making music. __________________ Look at all those dead links.

06-27-2006, 06:04 PM	#42
o_mescalito Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Israel Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Like Etzell and FT, i wouldn't have more then half of my CD's if i weren't P2Ping them first. Wouldn't be aware to a lot of music too. You are right though, i still havn't deleted/bought all of the music i d/loded. So you think a few artists or record labels got ripped by me? By the fact that i own an mp3 version of their music? I don't care. Others gained. Moral or not, bottom line is, mp3's can't replace an actual CD. If it's good enough, i'll prolly buy it eventually. It's a process. I allready got all the good Pink Floyd albums, like 8 albums. You can't listen to their (and many others. unless it's pop music) stuff in a store. Some music needs to grow up on you before you can understand it. Dunno where movies stand in all of this though. I never rent/buy DVD's and don't go to the cinema anymore. I just watch the pirated version on my 17 inch monitor

06-27-2006, 06:07 PM	#43
o_ivaqual Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Europe, Front Yard Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Now, Mesc, that's a whole different matter. As I said I am as guilty as others of what I do with my connection and that why or why not you should do it is an issue of law and morality. The thing that drives me into walls is seeing people feel they are entitled and perfectly in the right to get things you have to pay for, for free. I could let go if someone stole food because he was starving but it's not like you need all that music on your computer. And you are right about listening to stuff in stores, but it's still a point. I can't see how the issue would be different with movies.

06-27-2006, 06:08 PM	#44
o_frenchtoast Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Markham, Ontario, Canada! Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I usually rent the movie then rip it to my computer, put it on my iPod, and watch it on the way to school. I can say though, with 100% certainty, I have never downloaded a movie. Those are different than music imo, more work went into them, more people involved etc. Far different than downloading a song off an album.

06-27-2006, 06:14 PM	#46
o_\|404\|innoc-tpf- Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The Midtown Express Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Sony knows it overstepped with the DRM nonsense and they were rebuked for it.. As to whether that casts a shadow on Bluray remains to be seen. Personally I'd like to see Bluray fail for that reason.

06-27-2006, 06:20 PM	#49
o_frenchtoast Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Markham, Ontario, Canada! Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	You're clearly not that bright. I call you a wigger because you make page long posts in big red letters. I call you a wigger to push your buttons because it's funny. Advertising the KKK is stupid. You really do have to be an asshole to do that.

06-27-2006, 06:29 PM	#50
o_frenchtoast Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Markham, Ontario, Canada! Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	...no, it's because it gets you fired up and upset.

06-27-2006, 06:33 PM	#51
o_frenchtoast Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Markham, Ontario, Canada! Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	That was due to the stupid hip-hop caps lock posts that drove everyone nuts.

06-27-2006, 07:03 PM	#52
o_loader Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Portsmouth, England Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	The KKK comment was about your Signature..

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