Team Fortress 2 - Page 25

Norris · 06-02-2007, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by GhOsT

I'm not sure why I respond to these posts. Obviously you guys have already made up your mind not to like TF2 already and little can be said to change that unless Walker comes out and says "haha, gotcha. Yea, we decided to make it exactly like TFC." Maybe it's just so some casual guy stumbling upon this won't see all the posts saying DOOOOOOM and then in turn make a decision not to even try the game based on that.

yep it's kinda useless but still...

Iggy: TF2 is not going to be a CTF game OK? Why do you always compare the gameplay of TFC to TF2? Different games. you won't need nades to take down soldiers. your goal is to capture control points.

about your sentry gun argument: it takes more time to upgrade the sentry gun now. you can see this in some video posted here. so you can't just fully set it up in 20s. and no, the classes aren't useless against the sentry. the scout can strait run past it or double jump over/around it. the spy can go invisible or disguise as enemy. the demoman can still toss explosives like you saw in the first video! sniper can kill everything with 1 shot. the soldier does still damage with rockets. maybe you need to kill the engy first with a well placed rocket. god forbid skills! and how about the pyro, heavy in combination with a medic who makes them invulnerable? we have no idea how strong or weak the sentry gun is going to be either. What makes you think that new gamers will be pissed? I thought Valve always tried to make the game friendly for newcomers. So I really doubt that the sg will be so immortal like.

.. just because you can't toss all your nades on a sentry gun or on a soldier doesn't mean that the game is going to be shit!

AmazingNurseEnrique · 06-03-2007, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Iggy

Ghost...have you ever played 2fort without nades? With the current weapons balance, it SUCKS! Going by the video, it doesn't take more than a shot or two to kill someone....Something is completely out of place.

But, hey....you have your opinion....and I have mine. I never said I would not try it...but my opinion is that FF will be the better of the two games.

Holy crap. I was actually thinking "Glad everyone realizes this whole demo is set on one-hit kills for the over-exaggeration of it all." Guess I was wrong.

Never assume gameplay specifics from promotional materials :P

Dospac · 06-04-2007, 06:54 AM

I think Valve inadvertently spoofed themselves with the first TF2 video releases showing off the classes. It was almost as if they had taken the worst parts of TFC and taken it overboard for the video. I almost think someone at Valve was having a bit of fun initially but nobody caught on. Not sure though. =)

AmazingNurseEnrique · 06-04-2007, 11:23 AM

Yeah, agreed. If you look at it as the over-the-top presentation it's supposed to be, it's cool, but as soon as you start analyzing it for gameplay, things get wonky.

Ihmhi · 06-04-2007, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by AmazingNurseEnrique

Yeah, agreed. If you look at it as the over-the-top presentation it's supposed to be, it's cool, but as soon as you start analyzing it for gameplay, things get wonky.

That was the first thing I do when I see any videos from TF2, and every single one of them is shockingly disappointing in that respect.

At least the FF devs release videos with gameplay in them...

GhOsT · 06-04-2007, 08:41 PM

Actual in game TF2 footage is starting to creep into videos being released now. The game is still at least a few months away from release. Gotta keep people insterested instead of dumping all the footage at once a ways out from release.

It's actualy kinda like when the devs released the dustbowl valley movie. That basically just showed off the map with extremely short 3rd person clips that made trying to figure out what was going on in them difficult.

Dospac · 06-04-2007, 08:42 PM

Well, one of the things that we assumed to be fake from the first videos, the huge cone of fire on the ac, appears to actually be that way from subsequent releases. The odd part though is how you can see a different set of center tracers appear in a much tighter cone in that first video if you watch carefully.. It's like Valve had ported the ac code from TFC or something and hadn't tidied it up yet.. Was strange, does anyone else remember seeing that?

PHISH · 06-04-2007, 09:55 PM

Who assumed that the cone of fire was fake besides you? :>

Killing guys in 1 shot, sure, but there was no reason to assume the cone of fire was whacked out for that scene, seems to fit their gameplay.

Dospac · 06-04-2007, 10:13 PM

Yeah, that's why it's "lawlz".. It's a good 40 degrees across haha.. wow.

own3r · 06-04-2007, 10:31 PM

Don't forget this is going on consoles, they can't aim remember they've got some retarded joystick to wrestle with. They will just get so trashed if they play with Pc gamers its unreal... but oh so funny.

Ihmhi · 06-05-2007, 11:27 AM

Well they could just have a keyboard and mouse setup on the console.

barronofhellion · 06-05-2007, 07:38 PM

mise well buy a computer

Fail · 06-05-2007, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Ihmhi

Well they could just have a keyboard and mouse setup on the console.

Xbox doesn't let you last time I checked. Could be wrong.

groovyf · 06-05-2007, 11:38 PM

Fairly certain xbox360 supports USB keyboards

mistermojo · 06-06-2007, 12:51 AM

yeah but you cant use them in game

06-06-2007, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by PHISH

Who assumed that the cone of fire was fake besides you? :>

Killing guys in 1 shot, sure, but there was no reason to assume the cone of fire was whacked out for that scene, seems to fit their gameplay.

I saw the cone of fire, I thought it was exaggerated like a lot of the things in the movie. If the cone of fire in the real game is that big... wow...

Serik · 06-06-2007, 02:11 AM

Yeah, if the gameplay turns out to be like the first teaser movie, I'll be pissed.

And at this time, I don't think consoles and PCs can play against each other (who'd want to, anyway?). But ya, I don't like the trend of "dumbing down" PC games for the sake of consoles. See Shadowrun

Fail · 06-06-2007, 02:33 AM

Of course the cone of fire is fake, along with the damage. All you need to do is look at the scout part. He is clearly hit by the HWGuy, rocket splash, shotgun blast, and turret fire without dieing. Now you telling me you think the the scout could actually survive what a bunch of soldiers fell easily to?

GhOsT · 06-06-2007, 12:05 PM

Stop it with your logic, Fail!! You must blindly believe EVERYTHING that is shown in that video!!

own3r · 06-06-2007, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GhOsT

Stop it with your logic, Fail!! You must blindly believe EVERYTHING that is shown in that video!!

Sieg heil V4lV3!

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06-04-2007, 06:54 AM	#483
Dospac Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I think Valve inadvertently spoofed themselves with the first TF2 video releases showing off the classes. It was almost as if they had taken the worst parts of TFC and taken it overboard for the video. I almost think someone at Valve was having a bit of fun initially but nobody caught on. Not sure though. =)

06-04-2007, 11:23 AM	#484
AmazingNurseEnrique Alcoholocaust Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Yeah, agreed. If you look at it as the over-the-top presentation it's supposed to be, it's cool, but as soon as you start analyzing it for gameplay, things get wonky.

06-04-2007, 08:41 PM	#486
GhOsT Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Actual in game TF2 footage is starting to creep into videos being released now. The game is still at least a few months away from release. Gotta keep people insterested instead of dumping all the footage at once a ways out from release. It's actualy kinda like when the devs released the dustbowl valley movie. That basically just showed off the map with extremely short 3rd person clips that made trying to figure out what was going on in them difficult.

06-04-2007, 08:42 PM	#487
Dospac Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Well, one of the things that we assumed to be fake from the first videos, the huge cone of fire on the ac, appears to actually be that way from subsequent releases. The odd part though is how you can see a different set of center tracers appear in a much tighter cone in that first video if you watch carefully.. It's like Valve had ported the ac code from TFC or something and hadn't tidied it up yet.. Was strange, does anyone else remember seeing that?

06-04-2007, 09:55 PM	#488
PHISH Retired FF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: cow college Posts Rated Helpful 13 Times	Who assumed that the cone of fire was fake besides you? :> Killing guys in 1 shot, sure, but there was no reason to assume the cone of fire was whacked out for that scene, seems to fit their gameplay.

06-04-2007, 10:13 PM	#489
Dospac Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Yeah, that's why it's "lawlz".. It's a good 40 degrees across haha.. wow.

06-04-2007, 10:31 PM	#490
own3r Custom mapper Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Don't forget this is going on consoles, they can't aim remember they've got some retarded joystick to wrestle with. They will just get so trashed if they play with Pc gamers its unreal... but oh so funny.

06-05-2007, 07:38 PM	#492
barronofhellion Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	mise well buy a computer

06-05-2007, 11:38 PM	#494
groovyf In the clouds Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Halifax, UK Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Fairly certain xbox360 supports USB keyboards

06-06-2007, 12:51 AM	#495
mistermojo the pumps dont work Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	yeah but you cant use them in game

06-06-2007, 02:11 AM	#497
Serik Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Yeah, if the gameplay turns out to be like the first teaser movie, I'll be pissed. And at this time, I don't think consoles and PCs can play against each other (who'd want to, anyway?). But ya, I don't like the trend of "dumbing down" PC games for the sake of consoles. See Shadowrun

06-06-2007, 02:33 AM	#498
Fail Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Of course the cone of fire is fake, along with the damage. All you need to do is look at the scout part. He is clearly hit by the HWGuy, rocket splash, shotgun blast, and turret fire without dieing. Now you telling me you think the the scout could actually survive what a bunch of soldiers fell easily to?

06-06-2007, 12:05 PM	#499
GhOsT Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Stop it with your logic, Fail!! You must blindly believe EVERYTHING that is shown in that video!!

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