1984

o_funnyonefunnyone · 04-05-2005, 07:24 PM

Let me just say first off, please don't lock my post. I do know that it has little to do with FF, but it is a very interesting thought. I'm guessing that most of you have played half life two. Recently, in school, I was reading George Orwell's novel, 1984. Did valve take the concept of city 17 from London, Oceana in the novel? There are so many similarities:

Dr. Breen the so called Counsel is the 'Big Brother' figure.

Gordon seems to play the role of Winston to some extend. A rogue in a strict society.

The scanners keep a strict eye over the citizens of the City 17

The massive TV screens are similar to the Tele-Screens in 1984.

The run down appartments in city 17 are very reminisent of the victory mansions in 1984.

What do you all think about this?

Defrag · 04-05-2005, 07:55 PM

I think it belogs in the chat forum

I've corrected your thread topic too, it said "1884".

o_|404|innoc-tpf- · 04-05-2005, 08:05 PM

Hey, that was the year I graduated High School and enlisted in the military....it was a double plus good year!

o_voipme · 04-05-2005, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |404|Innoc-TPF-

Hey, that was the year I graduated High School and enlisted in the military....it was a double plus good year!

I was 2. 18 years later, I joined the military. Worst. Decision. Ever.

o_hobophobic · 04-05-2005, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FunnyOneFunnyOne

Let me just say first off, please don't lock my post. I do know that it has little to do with FF, but it is a very interesting thought. I'm guessing that most of you have played half life two. Recently, in school, I was reading George Orwell's novel, 1984. Did valve take the concept of city 17 from London, Oceana in the novel? There are so many similarities:

Dr. Breen the so called Counsel is the 'Big Brother' figure.

Gordon seems to play the role of Winston to some extend. A rogue in a strict society.

The scanners keep a strict eye over the citizens of the City 17

The massive TV screens are similar to the Tele-Screens in 1984.

The run down appartments in city 17 are very reminisent of the victory mansions in 1984.

What do you all think about this?

I'd be willing to bet that Mr. Laidlaw was at least a little bit influenced by Mr. Orwell.
Playling HL2 has made me want to read 1984 again, in the worst way. Soon as I finish my second read-through of Hitchhikers Guide...

o_sobe green · 04-05-2005, 09:40 PM

Didn't someone post this before or am I just experiencing deja vu? Maybe I read about it somewhere else. Maybe I live in a hut made of cheese... maybe...

o_storm · 04-05-2005, 09:53 PM

No you are right sir

http://forums.fortress-forever.com/v...highlight=1984

o_binarylife · 04-05-2005, 09:57 PM

It was mentioned but never had its own thread.

The simularities you see were intentional. The story for HL2 was based on serveral different books in which a powerful society dominated a less powerful one. If you'll look closely you'll see references to War of The Worlds, 1984, A Brave New World (less so), and also Tripods.

o_xstioph · 04-05-2005, 10:14 PM

I had my 3rd birthday in 1984, joined the army 17 years later..

o_sobe green · 04-06-2005, 02:12 AM

I wasn't meaning he should have used search or anything. I just couldn't remember where I heard it from before. Just wanted to clear that up.

o_funnyonefunnyone · 04-06-2005, 06:34 PM

thanks for the discussion people.

o_hired-gun · 04-06-2005, 09:19 PM

OMG this thread makes me feel old,i was 23 back in 1984

04-05-2005, 07:24 PM	#1
o_funnyonefunnyone Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	1984 Let me just say first off, please don't lock my post. I do know that it has little to do with FF, but it is a very interesting thought. I'm guessing that most of you have played half life two. Recently, in school, I was reading George Orwell's novel, 1984. Did valve take the concept of city 17 from London, Oceana in the novel? There are so many similarities: Dr. Breen the so called Counsel is the 'Big Brother' figure. Gordon seems to play the role of Winston to some extend. A rogue in a strict society. The scanners keep a strict eye over the citizens of the City 17 The massive TV screens are similar to the Tele-Screens in 1984. The run down appartments in city 17 are very reminisent of the victory mansions in 1984. What do you all think about this?

04-05-2005, 07:55 PM	#2
Defrag Retired FF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Scotland Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I think it belogs in the chat forum I've corrected your thread topic too, it said "1884". __________________ Fortress Forever. Level Designer, Gameplay Dude and whatnot.

04-05-2005, 08:05 PM	#3
o_\|404\|innoc-tpf- Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The Midtown Express Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Hey, that was the year I graduated High School and enlisted in the military....it was a double plus good year!

04-05-2005, 09:40 PM	#6
o_sobe green Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Arkansas Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Didn't someone post this before or am I just experiencing deja vu? Maybe I read about it somewhere else. Maybe I live in a hut made of cheese... maybe...

04-05-2005, 09:53 PM	#7
o_storm Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: SCOTLAND (above England) Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	No you are right sir http://forums.fortress-forever.com/v...highlight=1984

04-05-2005, 09:57 PM	#8
o_binarylife Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	It was mentioned but never had its own thread. The simularities you see were intentional. The story for HL2 was based on serveral different books in which a powerful society dominated a less powerful one. If you'll look closely you'll see references to War of The Worlds, 1984, A Brave New World (less so), and also Tripods.

04-05-2005, 10:14 PM	#9
o_xstioph Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Sweden Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I had my 3rd birthday in 1984, joined the army 17 years later..

04-06-2005, 02:12 AM	#10
o_sobe green Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Arkansas Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I wasn't meaning he should have used search or anything. I just couldn't remember where I heard it from before. Just wanted to clear that up.

04-06-2005, 06:34 PM	#11
o_funnyonefunnyone Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	thanks for the discussion people.

04-06-2005, 09:19 PM	#12
o_hired-gun Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Sweden the land of sin Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	OMG this thread makes me feel old,i was 23 back in 1984

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