07-18-2007, 08:05 PM | #121 | |
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The question at hand involves a person who believes he/she is supposed to be the opposite sex. And we're really talking about whether it's a better idea to match their body to their mind or their mind to their body. Right now, that person will be in chaos with all existing treatments. We can make a guy look like a girl and that will make that guy feel better if he believes she truely should be a girl. but unfortuenaltely he is still not 100% a woman. He is just a man with implants and a cut and stuffed penis pumped full of hormones. If making it so that man does not beleive he should be a woman anymore would be possible, then that man would be happier. That is not possible right now. But that's what we're talking about. To say it's pointless involves a lack of compassion. Look, I don't understand what it's like to be a "woman trapped in a man's body." BUt I can imagine it would be very uncomfortable. Think about the childhood drama alone that could not even be solved through surgery because most schools would mandate that you be in the mens locker room no matter how you look. Imagine the taunting, the teasing and the hazing. You can't fix that. I don't think that you easily write this off as "pointless." Are there more important things? Sure. Curing AIDS and cancer would no doubt be a better spending of our time. But one person's pain doesn't make another's dissapear. |
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07-18-2007, 09:32 PM | #123 |
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I have argued this before with a friend. If a woman who feels she is trapped in the wrong body, believing she is truly a man, goes and gets surgery, the person will still in essence be a she with modifications.
I will never say that she is now male when she decides to get the surgery. No amount of mental scrubbing will alter it also. I don't see a way we can make them more comfortable, save for artifically with medication that helps with an inbalance of seritonin. But my point still stands that I don't feel sorry for them either. Maybe you're right that talking to someone professional will help get deal with stress, though the amount of people that actually feel completely "I'm trapped in the wrong gender/body" are low enough to deem it unnecessary. Yes, this is INSIGNIFICANT and not a lack of compassion on my part. I suppose I could feel sorry that they hurt mentally though. The answer is to suck it up and deal with it. Humans aren't weak creatures that have to lean on the shoulders of others to help themselves, we all have the ability to fix our situation through bettering ones self. I think what they have to do is understand who they are, understand their body and learn to cope. If they want the treatment to change their parts, so be it... but it's artifical. |
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07-18-2007, 11:14 PM | #125 |
Hi, I'm a black female staffy leprechaun stuck in a white males body, what can you do to help me? I don't want surgery, but I want you to make me a black female staffy leprechaun.
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07-18-2007, 11:35 PM | #126 |
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...we could give you some LSD?
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07-19-2007, 12:21 AM | #127 |
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Scuzzy, based on christian theology surely sex change surgery is acceptable.
If an eternal female soul inhabits a transient male shell, then surely it makes more sense to modify the external body not the mind/soul/essence? [edited] And vice versa. |
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07-19-2007, 12:28 AM | #128 | |
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07-19-2007, 02:44 AM | #129 | |
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Take no pity on the person who can't have life as it is, unless under tragic circumstances, these people have no right to complain about anything. They do have the right to purchase anothers labors, as well as supply their own labors to a purchaser... but should never have the gall to complain about insignificant bullshit such as this. Again, unless tragic circumstances... get over it and deal with it yourself. |
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07-19-2007, 03:20 AM | #130 | |
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07-19-2007, 03:34 AM | #131 |
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When I say compassion I mean exactly that. I'm not asking for pity, just understanding. You don't have to bend over backwards and save them from themselves. It's just a request that you look at them with the realization that they are human beings. They have a heart, eyes and a brain just like you do. They also are self aware like you. So understand at the very least that their pain exists and to dismiss it is wrong. Just say "I know it hurts. I don't really care... but I know that it does."
[off track]People these days have lost touch with each other. I think we should extend some kind of professional courtesy for all of us working the job of life. Most of this is based on the ignorance of customers I've dealt with and their ability to feel entitled to the store because they own one product we sell. The sad thing is, these people look at all other humans the way they look at me. They just think they can get away with it.[/off track] |
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07-19-2007, 03:39 AM | #132 | |
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I love Jon Lovitz
I've always thought he was hysterically funny in a VERY cheesy way...but I love him even more now.
Jon Lovitz roughs up Andy Dick Quote:
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07-19-2007, 03:54 AM | #133 |
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That's an interesting article, and I now also love John Lovitz, but why did you post that in this thread?
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07-19-2007, 04:05 AM | #134 |
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lol @ Innoc...
And BinaryLife... I agree with absolutely everything you just said. I think that's all we can ask of each other, understanding. Also, I used to work as a pharmacy technician at the local Rite-Aid... and I know exactly how you feel about customer ignorance. Basically my thought process about the rest of humanity comes and goes in cycles. For a while I'll find a person I'm really inspired by and begin to have positive feelings about mankind and the future etc.... and then some fuckbag will pull out in front of me or something and I'll lapse and realize that literally EVERYONE is a just goddamn asshole looking out for only themselves and be pissed for the next few months until I find another sane person and start all over. |
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07-19-2007, 05:34 AM | #135 |
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aw crap...I hit POST REPLY instead of NEW TOPIC. Wow...rookie move...
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