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Increasing the supply (or reducing the rate at which it is depleting) is necessary.
That's, in my opinion, the solution. There are multiple ways to do this. One is reducing consumption--conservation, stop wasting water. One is to reduce external factors that deplete it, such global warming. (These two solutions are hampered by growing populations.) One is increasing the effectiveness of reusing water through technology. These insofar are interlinked. One is reducing (or slowing) demand. And there are multiple ways to do that. It's not a one-solution-fix-all process.
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Just because of this debate, I'm going to start dumping my car oil into the river.
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At the heart of is the overpopulation problem, simply because it hampers any effort aimed at preserving freshwater resources. But as stated before, freshwater scarcity is just one ailment of overpopulation (and part of many others).
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Here is how you should take it. "Some of you people, because you are asshats(a group of them within Christianity, not to leave out the possibility of Islam as well), are not overly concerned with destroying nature and killing off animals because you believe yourself to be superior because your so-called God gave you a soul." The only problems I had with how you took it were the way you implied all as being the group and that the people were for killing nature instead of simply not giving a shit. Last edited by YomMamasHouse; 08-11-2007 at 03:33 AM. |
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This is a chicken or egg situation with each on opposite sides. Hostile agreement.
Silver fox...lol...you need help.
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Overpopulation is such a convenient way to take a jab at someone for not living in a manner that pleases you personally. I'll make a bold statement... there is no such thing as overpopulation... it is a myth. Want to know why? Simple... overpopulation suggests that there are too many of a species in a given area, and that there are not enough resources to support all of them. Anyone want to take a guess at what happens to the ones who don't get the resources they need? They die... They die because the stronger ones got the resources first, leaving them empty-handed. And after they die, guess what? The balance is restored, and the amount of resources exactly fits the population until some more organisms are born that raises them above the "quota," if you will. Then the whole cycle repeats itself. One important conclusion can be drawn from such a simple argument: the state of overpopulation cannot be a permanent one, because the situation itself involves an imbalance that is inevitably "fixed" very quickly. You can only oscillate back and forth between perfectly balanced and overpopulated. The higher you go beyond the limit, the more will die to put it back to normal. On and on and on and on... Thus, puppychow and uber, your argument has no weight whatsoever. Having 16 children does not cause or contribute to overpopulation. The worst it can do is initiate a struggle if the species is teetering at the very end of the balance. |
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On a side note, nature is survival of the fittest, is it not? Doesn't that indicate some sort of self centered behavior by definition? Wouldn't, in that scenario, define "caring" only to what the individual person wanted/needed? Anything else would be a waste of energy, wouldn't it?
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So what is your point Scuzzy, that it's ok for humans to take whatever they want? How can you live so unharmonious with what ‘God’ gave you?
And are you now seriously using evolution as an argument why it's ok to take what we need. It's an observation from nature; a process. Just because it exist and just because we (humans) are pretty damn good at adapting (which is totally different than being the strongest), doesn't mean that we should have this as some sort ideal that we should hold up or whatever. |
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Proof of overpopulation:
"The total amount of intelligence on the earth is a constant. it's just that the human population is growing." |
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Now, as for my question (which was not my point, but a question towards someone else's point), it was a simple one. If we are only looking at nature, do not animals take what they want and what they need? How is that different from man? Animals impact their environment. Animals can, and have, consumed enough resources to negatively impact their species life cycle, as well as those of other animals. Am I saying man should do what they want? No. Am I saying that man should not do what they want? No. I'm just stating a fact. Scuzzy
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This is slightly offtopic but still related. And what I previously asked/stated (even though maybe unrelated). You state here that there is no/little difference between us and animals. So if animals in fact are equal to man, than why is it ok to kill animals and not to prevent (human) birth, why is killing human life so different. And if you accept the fact that we are different (more intelligent whatever) and that this is the reason why we are special, then why is it a crime to prevent the birth of those people who are not like us and therefor in skill comparable with animals. This, in my view is christian arrogance: always value human life higher than animal life. Last edited by Zydell; 08-11-2007 at 05:59 PM. |
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Are there specific areas in the world where supplies of fresh water, either by nature or by man are scare? Yep. Is there enough freshwater in the United States today to take care of all the people in the country? Absolutely not. Does the United States filter their water and make it a reusable resource? Yes. Could this practice be put in place, event on a bigger scale elsewere in the world? Yes. Could man become more and more efficient at filtering and reusing fresh water to handle growing populations? Yes, and more then likely. Are some countries putting these water filtration methods into practice? - No. ^^^^^^^^ Does that make it a global issue? No, it makes it a regional one. Scuzzy
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No, it's a global issue because it has global implications.
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