09-03-2007, 08:47 PM | #101 |
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First off, that sentence didn't make sense, at least not in English. Please proof-read.
Secondly, I'm all for plural marriage, go for it, as long as it doesn't infringe on women's rights, which is where there are quarrels with it. When women get sold as property, there's the problem, not multiple people marrying.
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Frenchtoast, considering your stance that people who disagree with the idea of gay marraige do you also believe that people like Etzell and IhmhI are ignorant uneducated, who desire to oppress their fellow man, because they do not believe that plural marriage should be legal? (for Etzell and Ihmhi, those are his words, not mine) Scuzzy
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To sum up my post: I take from their responses that Etzell and Ihmhi would be fine with plural marriages if the problems associated with plural marriages were solved, and they can be, and there probably have been succesful plural marriages (although I admit I'm not aware of the legality of much background of plural marriages). |
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And actually, I am what many people would call uneducated. I have been kicked out of two high schools for poor attendance and failing marks. (I have, however, gotten my G.E.D. and I am currently saving up money for college.) This is an argument of escalation, largely on your part. You brought the whole plural marriage thing into this discussion when it really did not need to be here. It is no different than "well soon enough everyone will be marryin' dogs and donkeys and the like!" Again, I will restate: in my opinion, marriage should be a social contract established between two legal, consenting adults who are sound of mind regardless of the color of their skin, their gender, their ethnic background, their genes, their affinity for turtles and zombie face paint, and any number of things that the government hasn't got an ounce of business bothering with. The only important thing in marriage is love, and there are a lot of people who are the same sex that love each other romantically. It is an egregious crime that our government, America, land of the free, ignorantly deprives them of the right to enter into the social contract of marriage while there are many other countries in the world (mostly Europe) that have absolutely no problem with it. Plural marriage is an entirely different matter and is irrelevant to the issue of homosexuals entering into marriage contracts. It is an entirely different discussion that has greater legal difficulties in working out and an idea that will likely not reach fruition until long after homosexual marriage has become the norm. Wrapping things up, Scuzzy, this is addressed to you. I know you are an all around good guy, although you can get pretty heated in an argument. We all can. Your generation and the one before it, however, did something that a lot of them are regretting. See, they taught their kids all of this "Sharing" and "being fair" crap that you see on Sesame Street and the like. We kinda, ya know, listened to you. Ten, twenty, thirty years later, a whole lot of those people are turning around on the core of those ideals. Our generation (and the ones after it) are going to fight to let this happen because we know it's right. These people love each other, and there is nothing more right than that.
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Imhi,
FWIW, education and intelligence are not mutually exclusive or strictly dependent on each other.
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I'm not gonna bother responding to Scuzzy there, 'cause everyone else did my work for me. So... yeah. Good call.
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I also think people should be able to be involved in plural marriages so long as no rights are violated. While I may be unable to see any joy in it, I have no authority/right to stick my hand into the affairs of others, as long as what they are doing only concerns them. If I thought anything else I would be a fascist/asshole.
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09-04-2007, 05:03 PM | #109 |
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I see what you did there.
I guess it could work, then. Even something as touchy as custody could be divided up between three or four people (just switch off every week!). I suppose the difficulties are no different than dividing a house in two when half of the regular ol heterosexual marriages in this nation fail. Gotta admit, though, getting plural marriage to fly in the government will be much harder. I have to admit I made a mistake. I completely forgot about Nixon completely phasing the love agenda out of the government towards the end of his years.
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Yes Scuzzy, I can't love someone outside of a religious based bond. Yup.
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Perhaps I'm viewing it out of context. Do you mean that the BASIS of the different types of marriage is what you stated?
PS Psychology courses really calm you down...
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No, but you're also implying that religion does. *cough* Arranged marriages *cough* etc.
In the end, love is quite an optional thing in marriage, regardless of the religious or civil aspect of it.
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As I said above, my statement was very clear, that civil marriage is not about love at all. That's all. If you want to read other things into that, feel free. Scuzzy
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