Some critique

[reaper18]

Then you should keep us updated.

Also: Too many hypothetical situations.
Nothing proves a theory more than evidence, ahem, especially video evidence

[chilledsanity]

Ceremony: I don't think snipers and pyros are what break down crossfire, I think it's simply CTF pubbing since most people don't care about the objectives. I'll admit when I play that I only treat it like deathmatch. Also yes, I'd say the game is quite a bit about spam, though that's generally a positive thing for me since I love seeing the carnage unfold around me in games. As for turning friendly fire on, I think that would cripple defense even more (in a pub environment anyway)

reaper18: Which situations are you referring to? And I agree evidence helps, though that only works for specific exploits or bugs I think. For balance changes, it has to be taken in collectively. For example, if you show a video of a spy completely murdering the hunted over and over, many people will dismiss that on bad bodyguards/civilian. If I show that in 5 different games, people will say the same thing. I get the feeling some people would need 50 or more videos in order to change their minds and even then, those same people might not have the patience to sit through all of those, so it could be a losing scenario. How much video evidence do you think would be needed to prove a point?

[MonoXideAtWork]

Originally Posted by chilledsanity

Ceremony: I don't think snipers and pyros are what break down crossfire, I think it's simply CTF pubbing since most people don't care about the objectives. I'll admit when I play that I only treat it like deathmatch. Also yes, I'd say the game is quite a bit about spam, though that's generally a positive thing for me since I love seeing the carnage unfold around me in games. As for turning friendly fire on, I think that would cripple defense even more (in a pub environment anyway)

reaper18: Which situations are you referring to? And I agree evidence helps, though that only works for specific exploits or bugs I think. For balance changes, it has to be taken in collectively. For example, if you show a video of a spy completely murdering the hunted over and over, many people will dismiss that on bad bodyguards/civilian. If I show that in 5 different games, people will say the same thing. I get the feeling some people would need 50 or more videos in order to change their minds and even then, those same people might not have the patience to sit through all of those, so it could be a losing scenario. How much video evidence do you think would be needed to prove a point?

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