(Released) counc_course! - Page 5

DD` · 03-05-2008, 04:54 PM

lua is broke
[SCRIPT] maps\includes\base_conc.lua either does not exist or could not be opened.

I know it's easy enough to get a hold of but you should include it in your zip file.

Dr.Satan · 03-05-2008, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DD`

lua is broke
[SCRIPT] maps\includes\base_conc.lua either does not exist or could not be opened.

I know it's easy enough to get a hold of but you should include it in your zip file.

That's supposed to be included with the default files, but I don't have it either.

Stino do you know what was in that lua? I don't see any base.lua for concing actually.

stino · 03-05-2008, 05:20 PM

oh that was the inofficial official conc script released on these forums a while back.

public_slots_free · 03-05-2008, 05:20 PM

thanks stino

stino · 03-05-2008, 05:21 PM

thanks for?
hmm, adding the base_conc lua to my lua since it doesnt seem to be default

its running on sgware.be:29001

Dr.Satan · 03-05-2008, 05:46 PM

so re-download your file again or hold off?

EDIT: Nevermind...I just re-downloaded and it's there...Thanks again man!

Lt Llama · 03-05-2008, 11:08 PM

Nice work Stino. Thanks for sticking with it and finishing it.

GeoKill-----> · 03-08-2008, 02:49 AM

I just finished this and fucking good job.
It was easy but the detail is what makes this map great. I felt like I was playing Portal.

BTW, few parts were too dark, had to turn on flashlight. and a few bugs, not too major though.

I could stand in all of lights

Also in this part, when you go through to look out the window, there's an invisible wall there, you could go through it still.

stino · 03-11-2008, 12:57 PM

an invisible wall where you could go through? wtf?
could be back of the displacement, if you stand on the other side of the invisble wall, do you see rock?

and i have had a friend play the map (fist time he played ff) and he got stuck in that part you showed me (last screen), its a window ...

the big part on the left is the hallway where you can go to the other side

and the lights, well i thought i fixed those, but seems not, well, its not that bad anyway.

and the darkness, its the same as in the last beta, but i cranked up the constant and brightness of every single light

as for conc_course2, the skill required for that map will be a lot higher, but that will lead into a tiny little problem: i cant conc that good

first jump is an O-jump over the top, second one is to aim in a hole in the ceiling (just to pass the gap between that jump and the following jump

) the tird one is a s-jump, then we have another o jump, but this time not over the top but under the platform and then ... (well, need to think of the rest).

also i made the platforms even bigger since one thing that really annoys me is having other concers conc you off the platform

, and i also hate the teleporter piles

(players stuck into eachother), but thats not an issue with my conc script anyway

EDIT: hehe, i used quite a lot of

Dr.Satan · 03-11-2008, 04:13 PM

lol was totally going to say you used a lot of those!

2 sounds interesting!

Dr.Satan · 03-12-2008, 03:33 PM

I played this last night and I just wanted to say very nice map man!

I really enjoyed and hated the strafe jump (17 I think) and the 2nd to the last jump with the shoot you have to fly out of (29?). I think you could really make this map a difficult one if you took out some of the areas people are able to stand, but at the same time it's a very great map.

GeoKill-----> · 03-12-2008, 03:35 PM

17 was easy and so much fun that I kept returning to it

Also for 29, strafe on to the left of the rock wall and you'll make it everytime.

Dr.Satan · 03-12-2008, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by GeoKill----->

17 was easy and so much fun that I kept returning to it

Also for 29, strafe on to the left of the rock wall and you'll make it everytime.

Yeah...I have done a few surfing maps in TFC days so 29 wasn't difficult just really cool to see something like that in FF!

17 was a bitch for me, but only b/c I suck at circle strafing. In fact playing that I am going to put a jump just like that in conc_school to help newbs...probably will have one less platform so it's easier, but it's definitely going in.

The only complaint I had is that you die each round...I would rather see a tele. cause after doing it as demo, scout, and solly I have like 1538 deaths or some crap! Also not like it really matters on a skills map, and for demo and solly it's awesome cause if you accidentally kill yourself you don't go back to 1.

stino · 03-12-2008, 04:44 PM

you die becouse i have more power in that system then in a teleporter system.

If you change team you restart at the start (on purpose), but if you change class, you stay at your jump. so you can do every jump with another class

very usefull if you are stuck at one jump and want to try the rest.
Also, if you die, you spawn on a FREE spot, becouse thats the way the spawn system works

as for making it more difficult, have a bit of discipline!! dont use the platforms if you want a difficult jump, the map is called course becouse its getting more difficult to the end, but also to teach new players some tricks, and they wont learn them if they keep failing the same jump over and over again.

i learned a friend of mine to conc in less then an hour, he made it to the end!
it was the first time he played ff, and he never played tfc before

and difficult jumps are coming soon in the sequel!
speaking of wich, i need some higher skilled concers to test the jumps, the better you can conc, the more difficult this map will be in the end since i'll keep your feedback in mind for the rest of the jumps.

Dr.Satan · 03-12-2008, 04:51 PM

yeah...not complaining and I know and like the death system, kind of annoying as a medic / scout but every other class it's a great system, plus with the button it's really cool!

As far as the jumps go, I pretty much did. On the really easy maps I would go back and redo them if I did them to easy, but I like that the potential for a difficult map is there and yet it's very easy for a newbie to get thru the map and learn all sort of new techniques.

stino · 03-12-2008, 08:18 PM

just wondering, why is the dead system more annoying to concers?

Dr.Satan · 03-12-2008, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stino

just wondering, why is the dead system more annoying to concers?

Cause there is no real benefit for having it...a teleport could do the same thing.

With others you have the accidental death thing and the changing class thing, but for a scout / med your never going to accidentally die and most scouts / meds aren't going to change to a solly / demo etc. to get past a jump.

Just a slight annoyance, not a bad thing at all IMO just feels wierd to die while concing...also I think I still get that angryness I get with mappers that use trigger_kills and it DOES send you back to the start for all jumps...that really bugs me so it could just be that feeling crossing over even though it has no direct correlation.

Player · 03-12-2008, 08:29 PM

I personally like to keep a conc I primed before failing the jump, with your system I am incapable of doing so.

But I can cope with dying every now and then if it means other players get more functionality from your map.

stino · 03-12-2008, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr.Satan

Cause there is no real benefit for having it...a teleport could do the same thing.

except that it whould require a whole set of entities to check if a spawn destination is available

stacks of players stuck in eachother are a bit more annoying then not being able to prime before being teleported.

also, check this out, i'd like to have a bit of feedback on the jumps:
http://www.sgware.be/?p=downloads&f=view&id=44

Dr.Satan · 03-13-2008, 12:38 AM

yep I agree...

And I'll test it out sometime tomorrow if I can...have a match tonight.

03-05-2008, 05:21 PM	#85
stino Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	thanks for? hmm, adding the base_conc lua to my lua since it doesnt seem to be default its running on sgware.be:29001 Last edited by stino; 03-05-2008 at 05:26 PM.

03-05-2008, 05:46 PM	#86
Dr.Satan Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Greeley, CO Class/Position: Med / Solly Gametype: PAYLOAD Affiliations: DET- Posts Rated Helpful 19 Times	so re-download your file again or hold off? EDIT: Nevermind...I just re-downloaded and it's there...Thanks again man! __________________ FF Community Map Pack(s): 1 / 2 (Released) conc_school \| hellion_classic \| ksour_PAYLOAD \| mulch_faf (Beta) alchimy_b1 (Lua) base_payload_2015 (Models) props_trainyard Support FF:

03-08-2008, 02:49 AM	#88
GeoKill-----> Community Member Server Owner Beta Tester Forum Moderator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hawthorne, California Class/Position: Soldier/Spy/Scout Gametype: AvD Affiliations: :e0:Eternal Order Leader Posts Rated Helpful 12 Times	I just finished this and fucking good job. It was easy but the detail is what makes this map great. I felt like I was playing Portal. BTW, few parts were too dark, had to turn on flashlight. and a few bugs, not too major though. I could stand in all of lights Also in this part, when you go through to look out the window, there's an invisible wall there, you could go through it still. __________________ Fortress-Forever Guides All Your Mapping Needs :e0: Will live on Forever Support FF:

03-11-2008, 04:13 PM	#90
Dr.Satan Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Greeley, CO Class/Position: Med / Solly Gametype: PAYLOAD Affiliations: DET- Posts Rated Helpful 19 Times	lol was totally going to say you used a lot of those! 2 sounds interesting! __________________ FF Community Map Pack(s): 1 / 2 (Released) conc_school \| hellion_classic \| ksour_PAYLOAD \| mulch_faf (Beta) alchimy_b1 (Lua) base_payload_2015 (Models) props_trainyard Support FF:

03-12-2008, 03:33 PM	#91
Dr.Satan Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Greeley, CO Class/Position: Med / Solly Gametype: PAYLOAD Affiliations: DET- Posts Rated Helpful 19 Times	I played this last night and I just wanted to say very nice map man! I really enjoyed and hated the strafe jump (17 I think) and the 2nd to the last jump with the shoot you have to fly out of (29?). I think you could really make this map a difficult one if you took out some of the areas people are able to stand, but at the same time it's a very great map. __________________ FF Community Map Pack(s): 1 / 2 (Released) conc_school \| hellion_classic \| ksour_PAYLOAD \| mulch_faf (Beta) alchimy_b1 (Lua) base_payload_2015 (Models) props_trainyard Support FF:

03-05-2008, 04:54 PM	#81
DD` Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	lua is broke [SCRIPT] maps\includes\base_conc.lua either does not exist or could not be opened. I know it's easy enough to get a hold of but you should include it in your zip file.

03-05-2008, 05:20 PM	#83
stino Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	oh that was the inofficial official conc script released on these forums a while back.

03-05-2008, 05:20 PM	#84
public_slots_free Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	thanks stino

03-05-2008, 11:08 PM	#87
Lt Llama Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Nice work Stino. Thanks for sticking with it and finishing it.

03-11-2008, 12:57 PM	#89
stino Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	an invisible wall where you could go through? wtf? could be back of the displacement, if you stand on the other side of the invisble wall, do you see rock? and i have had a friend play the map (fist time he played ff) and he got stuck in that part you showed me (last screen), its a window ... the big part on the left is the hallway where you can go to the other side and the lights, well i thought i fixed those, but seems not, well, its not that bad anyway. and the darkness, its the same as in the last beta, but i cranked up the constant and brightness of every single light as for conc_course2, the skill required for that map will be a lot higher, but that will lead into a tiny little problem: i cant conc that good first jump is an O-jump over the top, second one is to aim in a hole in the ceiling (just to pass the gap between that jump and the following jump ) the tird one is a s-jump, then we have another o jump, but this time not over the top but under the platform and then ... (well, need to think of the rest). also i made the platforms even bigger since one thing that really annoys me is having other concers conc you off the platform , and i also hate the teleporter piles (players stuck into eachother), but thats not an issue with my conc script anyway EDIT: hehe, i used quite a lot of

03-12-2008, 03:35 PM	#92
GeoKill-----> Community Member Server Owner Beta Tester Forum Moderator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hawthorne, California Class/Position: Soldier/Spy/Scout Gametype: AvD Affiliations: :e0:Eternal Order Leader Posts Rated Helpful 12 Times	17 was easy and so much fun that I kept returning to it Also for 29, strafe on to the left of the rock wall and you'll make it everytime. __________________ Fortress-Forever Guides All Your Mapping Needs :e0: Will live on Forever Support FF:

03-12-2008, 04:44 PM	#94
stino Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	you die becouse i have more power in that system then in a teleporter system. If you change team you restart at the start (on purpose), but if you change class, you stay at your jump. so you can do every jump with another class very usefull if you are stuck at one jump and want to try the rest. Also, if you die, you spawn on a FREE spot, becouse thats the way the spawn system works as for making it more difficult, have a bit of discipline!! dont use the platforms if you want a difficult jump, the map is called course becouse its getting more difficult to the end, but also to teach new players some tricks, and they wont learn them if they keep failing the same jump over and over again. i learned a friend of mine to conc in less then an hour, he made it to the end! it was the first time he played ff, and he never played tfc before and difficult jumps are coming soon in the sequel! speaking of wich, i need some higher skilled concers to test the jumps, the better you can conc, the more difficult this map will be in the end since i'll keep your feedback in mind for the rest of the jumps.

03-12-2008, 04:51 PM	#95
Dr.Satan Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Greeley, CO Class/Position: Med / Solly Gametype: PAYLOAD Affiliations: DET- Posts Rated Helpful 19 Times	yeah...not complaining and I know and like the death system, kind of annoying as a medic / scout but every other class it's a great system, plus with the button it's really cool! As far as the jumps go, I pretty much did. On the really easy maps I would go back and redo them if I did them to easy, but I like that the potential for a difficult map is there and yet it's very easy for a newbie to get thru the map and learn all sort of new techniques. __________________ FF Community Map Pack(s): 1 / 2 (Released) conc_school \| hellion_classic \| ksour_PAYLOAD \| mulch_faf (Beta) alchimy_b1 (Lua) base_payload_2015 (Models) props_trainyard Support FF:

03-12-2008, 08:18 PM	#96
stino Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	just wondering, why is the dead system more annoying to concers?

03-12-2008, 08:29 PM	#98
Player D&A Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Europe Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	I personally like to keep a conc I primed before failing the jump, with your system I am incapable of doing so. But I can cope with dying every now and then if it means other players get more functionality from your map.

03-13-2008, 12:38 AM	#100
Dr.Satan Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Greeley, CO Class/Position: Med / Solly Gametype: PAYLOAD Affiliations: DET- Posts Rated Helpful 19 Times	yep I agree... And I'll test it out sometime tomorrow if I can...have a match tonight. __________________ FF Community Map Pack(s): 1 / 2 (Released) conc_school \| hellion_classic \| ksour_PAYLOAD \| mulch_faf (Beta) alchimy_b1 (Lua) base_payload_2015 (Models) props_trainyard Support FF:

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