Question to testers/devs about concs - Page 4

Circuitous · 01-30-2007, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Paft

I can't see how a marker would be of use AT ALL.

Anyway..

With the TFC conc effect, it's not. With shit like sniper rifles in CS, it can be.

o_coalesce · 01-30-2007, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by nagash

So if I'm not mistaken, your bullets actually go to the same place as when your not conced, the only difference is that your xhair moves around?

If so, that's pretty silly. Nothing to stop someone from using permanant marker to put a dot in the middle of their xhair (un conced) so that when they are conced they can just use the dot to aim instead....

And don't think I'm silly, I've seen heaps of people do it in CS to help their unscoped AWP shots.

Edit: And for that matter, they could have a bind to display no xhair/hud/whatever is needed, to reduce that distraction so they can just focus on the dot as well.

Sure, it won't work on LAN, but how many leagues/comps are really going to be LAN for an unofficial mod anyways?

this does not work, sorry to ruin your oh so thought out idea. it doesn't work because your VIEW moves with your "moving" crosshair. so that permanent marker dot will be right on your crosshair the entire time and if you aim at it, you will destroy the walls.

you can try it. go to any server, preferably empty. aim at anything and place your finger tip on your crosshair (physically put it on your monitor). prime a conc and let it go off in your hand (without throwing it) and tell me if your finger (the black dot from the marker) stays on your true aim or on your crosshair.

o_ghost · 01-30-2007, 04:50 PM

You can also see true aim by going sniper and having someone conc you. The red dot is always your true aim and that is where your shot is going to go. If you trace the pattern your crosshair is making it makes an "8". The point where it crosses over itself is where your aim is really at.

o_skanky butterpuss · 01-30-2007, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mervaka

I really don't care to argue this anymore after this post. I've seen enough people moan about the conc possibly not being learnable. I simply disagree with them. The conc was SUPPOSED to hinder aim. deal with it.

qft. fuck learnable conc aim

o_ivaqual · 01-30-2007, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Skanky Butterpuss

qft. fuck learnable conc aim

o_player · 01-30-2007, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by GhOsT

You can also see true aim by going sniper and having someone conc you. The red dot is always your true aim and that is where your shot is going to go.

Weirdly I can't conc aim well with the sniper rifle, but I can aim really well with the rpg, shotty and all other weapons except the pipe and gren launcher--I can't even aim with those two weapons unconced :P

traceralpha "0" for the newbie HW players!

o_ghost · 01-30-2007, 06:06 PM

Well, the sniper thing is more of just to show you the mechanics behind the conc effect in TFC. It's still pretty difficult to hit someone with the SR while conced since your screen is flying all over the place. At least with the rocket launcher you don't have to be exact.

o_player · 01-31-2007, 12:52 AM

It is mainly the sniper rifle weapon model that puts me off. When conced, I sometimes use r_drawviewmodel so I can see the dot rather than the model (cheating!) :P

I usually use the sniper rifle when explaining to someone the mechanics of conc aim, so...I guess that sums it up...

Lost · 01-31-2007, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Player

It is mainly the sniper rifle weapon model that puts me off. When conced, I sometimes use r_drawviewmodel so I can see the dot rather than the model (cheating!) :P

Can't do that without sv_cheats being on now. I guess its the same in TFC?

Circuitous · 01-31-2007, 02:51 AM

I used to turn that off back when I was running on the old piece of shit. Saved me one whole fps.

Wasn't a cheat then, at least. Don't think it is now.

o_player · 01-31-2007, 12:31 PM

You can still use it in TFC although I don't use it as much as I did since I have taken up sniping. I would rather learn to play the sniper properly (speed sniping etc) than using little tricks (r_drawviewmodel "0") to make things slightly easier.

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Originally Posted by Lost

Can't do that without sv_cheats being on now.

I can only imagine how many people will complain about that, unless people don't use it as often as they did during WON : )

Lost · 01-31-2007, 02:05 PM

Yeah, they'll complain, like they did about pyro buffs and the SG being a selectable weapon.

o_ghost · 01-31-2007, 02:09 PM

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Lost · 01-31-2007, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by GhOsT

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o_rannibunny · 01-31-2007, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Lost

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**mervaka** · 01-31-2007, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by GhOsT

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o_nodnarb · 01-31-2007, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Lost

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Lost · 01-31-2007, 10:52 PM

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o_nodnarb · 02-01-2007, 02:28 AM

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o_paft · 02-01-2007, 02:42 AM

No, because it's the 1st of febuary here 3:42am.

01-30-2007, 04:50 PM	#63
o_ghost Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	You can also see true aim by going sniper and having someone conc you. The red dot is always your true aim and that is where your shot is going to go. If you trace the pattern your crosshair is making it makes an "8". The point where it crosses over itself is where your aim is really at. Last edited by o_ghost; 01-30-2007 at 04:56 PM.

01-31-2007, 02:51 AM	#70
Circuitous Useless Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jun 2005 Class/Position: D Soldier, O Scout Gametype: AvD Posts Rated Helpful 9 Times	I used to turn that off back when I was running on the old piece of shit. Saved me one whole fps. Wasn't a cheat then, at least. Don't think it is now. __________________ Look at all those dead links.

01-31-2007, 02:05 PM	#72
Lost Fear teh crowbar. Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Oklahoma Gametype: CTF ftw, yeh Posts Rated Helpful 6 Times	Yeah, they'll complain, like they did about pyro buffs and the SG being a selectable weapon. __________________ Do what you want cuz a pirate is free! You are a pirate!

01-31-2007, 10:52 PM	#78
Lost Fear teh crowbar. Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Oklahoma Gametype: CTF ftw, yeh Posts Rated Helpful 6 Times	Eye am wee Todd did. Ah yam sofa king wee Todd did. I just love how we destroy every thread once it hits a certain point, hahaha __________________ Do what you want cuz a pirate is free! You are a pirate!

01-30-2007, 06:06 PM	#67
o_ghost Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Well, the sniper thing is more of just to show you the mechanics behind the conc effect in TFC. It's still pretty difficult to hit someone with the SR while conced since your screen is flying all over the place. At least with the rocket launcher you don't have to be exact.

01-31-2007, 12:52 AM	#68
o_player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Europe Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	It is mainly the sniper rifle weapon model that puts me off. When conced, I sometimes use r_drawviewmodel so I can see the dot rather than the model (cheating!) :P I usually use the sniper rifle when explaining to someone the mechanics of conc aim, so...I guess that sums it up...

01-31-2007, 02:09 PM	#73
o_ghost Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	OMFG!!!1!1!1 CHANGE!11!!1!!!1!!one!1!1!1

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o_paft Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	No, because it's the 1st of febuary here 3:42am.

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