FF_Rock2 - Page 4

ensiform · 02-29-2008, 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by greenday5494

i hope not. stick true to TFC, but not uber-stick. i want some "major" changes such as new routes etc, but dont go around adding weird security or laz0rz where there not supposed to be.

And who said TFC's rock2 was the way it was supposed to be? And its not really lasers its just a kill walk-through trigger like aardvark spawns. Like you said nothing new. The generator access is not new (at least not to me). Or anyone who has played rock2 prior to TFC

Anywho, it is after-all GambiT's remake so he has final decision.

greenday5494 · 02-29-2008, 05:49 AM

no, im saying dont add things that arent rock2 like security shutdown in front of the key, sutff like that. im all for new routes!

ensiform · 02-29-2008, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by greenday5494

no, im saying dont add things that arent rock2 like security shutdown in front of the key, sutff like that. im all for new routes!

Yea yea. Its not like security. You gotta destroy it for the route. Not press a button.

An ass-load of damage too.

Ihmhi · 02-29-2008, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Ihmhi

Also, if it's raining, what are ya gonna do about the yard tunnel? This is a problem I have not been able to figure out myself... if you have a door on a roof and there is rain/snow, how do you make it appear when the door opens and disappear when the door closes?

Well, I had a door on a roof for a tester. I'm in more of a tinkering stage with my mapzing, so I'm trying to do cool things with doors, lights, etc.

Anyway, I have a sliding door in the ceiling of a small brick building. It is snowing outside. When the door opens, the snow (obviously) does not fall through the doorway because the brush stops short. If the brush goes through the door, then the snow falls through the closed door.

Now, how are you going to handle the rain and the yard tunnel? If it rains through the floor, not realistic. If it doesn't rain after the yard has been blown open, also not realistic. There has to be a way to move a precip brush down and up with triggers or entities or some other mapper lingo bullshit. I tried getting it to work but it was epic fail.

Any ideas?

Skanky Butterpuss · 02-29-2008, 12:00 PM

make it a sewer grate. rain goes through sewer grates.

פֿяαιп βαмαgεפ · 02-29-2008, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Rutabeggar

If you haven't seen the movie The Rock with Sean Connery and Nicholas Cage, you should watch it for some inspiration, some pretty cool things you could do.

Oh HELL YEAH! I remember that part with the tunnel stuff with the gears and pistons and whatnot, that was cool.

Dr.Satan · 02-29-2008, 03:48 PM

Are you able to tie a trigger to the piece of snow brush so that on open it disappears? I'm just thinking out load, but that seems like it should work...

GambiT · 02-29-2008, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkieJ

Now we cant build sg's on the roof of the towers anymore

not the towers with the lights, but you will be able to on the roof around yard...

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Originally Posted by ensiform

Anywho, it is after-all GambiT's remake so he has final decision.

make no mistake about it, i value all of the input you can give, dont think i wont for one second take anything you suggest into consideration.

remember though, this is going to be a popular map, no doubt, and FF is going to be around a LOOOONG time, i can build it how i think it should be and release as beta, theres nothing that says i cant scrap what i done and try something else.

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Originally Posted by greenday5494

no, im saying dont add things that arent rock2 like security shutdown in front of the key, sutff like that. im all for new routes!

the ONLY thing i'm looking at doing different is the alternate route, there will be NO lasers, you have my word

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Originally Posted by Ihmhi

Now, how are you going to handle the rain and the yard tunnel? If it rains through the floor, not realistic. If it doesn't rain after the yard has been blown open, also not realistic. There has to be a way to move a precip brush down and up with triggers or entities or some other mapper lingo bullshit. I tried getting it to work but it was epic fail.

Any ideas?

well first i want to point out that precipitation falls "below" the trigger brush, if your brush is touching the ground and its only, 8 units or smaller in thickness the map will crash because the rain/snow whatever is falling outside of the map.

just wanted to point that out, and it may not be 8 units, maybe smaller i dunno.

as far as your question, if i do it like shadow said, then i can have the rain go all the way to the bottom of the tunnel, just hidden by the rocks/boulders until it's blown. its that simple.

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Originally Posted by Skanky Butterpuss

make it a sewer grate. rain goes through sewer grates.

thats what i was planning originally, but i dont think thats where i'm going with it now, due to what i want to do with the tunnels.

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Originally Posted by Rutabeggar

If you haven't seen the movie The Rock with Sean Connery and Nicholas Cage, you should watch it for some inspiration, some pretty cool things you could do.

i'm a Nicholas Cage fan as well as a Sean Connery fan, so yea i've seen it. actually i think i have it somewhere on vhs to bad all i have are dvd players...

greenday5494 · 03-01-2008, 12:32 AM

well, will there be laz0rz for the spawns, or are you gonna cover em up with doors (i support second option, just laz0rz are so annoying because laz0rz dont stop bullets!)

ensiform · 03-01-2008, 12:55 AM

trigger_ff_clip that blocks all projectiles and bullets ftw. (not just enemies) There was a debate on this and TBH it should block all regardless of the team set for players. This way players cannot sit behind and lay the pipe traps but actually have to be outside, tho they could still hide and wait for detpipe.

Please make sure the yard has some signs or icons that say which one is which. Can be confusing sometimes (especially in heat of battle).

GambiT · 03-01-2008, 03:49 AM

my apologies, i jumped the gun, there will be lasers where the spawns are, but thats it..

greenday5494 · 03-01-2008, 04:03 AM

ah okay. sweetness

now. GET BACK TO MAPPIN'!!

Firefox11 · 03-01-2008, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by GambiT

my apologies, i jumped the gun, there will be lasers where the spawns are, but thats it..

I hope you won't have Engineers building SGs inside the spawn like in TFC, which ended in spawn-MIRV, or going inside the spawn through the upper floor and beat the damn thing to death.

GambiT · 03-01-2008, 03:14 PM

probably wont be able to build sg's in the spawn.

Adamido · 03-01-2008, 07:14 PM

You should place something in the middle of the map.

Hirohito · 03-01-2008, 09:06 PM

I like the yard as-is. Makes it easy for the attackers to conc over to the wings.

DarkieJ · 03-01-2008, 09:14 PM

פֿяαιп βαмαgεפ · 03-05-2008, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Adamido

You should place something in the middle of the map.

Maybe a 3D FF logo with plaque, or somekind of silly memorial?

DarkieJ · 03-07-2008, 06:09 PM

how far is it? :P

Adamido · 03-07-2008, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by פֿяαιп βαмαgεפ

Maybe a 3D FF logo with plaque, or somekind of silly memorial?

I meant some big objects, so you cant spam whole middle map with rockets.

02-29-2008, 05:49 AM	#62
greenday5494 Holy shit, thats kerrigan! D&A Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Class/Position: D, whatever the team needs, usually engy Gametype: AvD Affiliations: None Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	no, im saying dont add things that arent rock2 like security shutdown in front of the key, sutff like that. im all for new routes! __________________ http://static.adrive.com/images/ads/...rbo_468x60.gif DAN MAPES!

02-29-2008, 12:00 PM	#65
Skanky Butterpuss Beware the Hammer D&A Member Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Class/Position: Sabotaging your shit. Affiliations: :}\|, mimic, /KBN/ Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	make it a sewer grate. rain goes through sewer grates. __________________ Support FF: Etzell: Skanky Etzell: The Wings are fucking fantastic Etzell: They really are Etzell: But even SAYING that makes me want to vomit

02-29-2008, 03:48 PM	#67
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03-01-2008, 12:32 AM	#69
greenday5494 Holy shit, thats kerrigan! D&A Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Class/Position: D, whatever the team needs, usually engy Gametype: AvD Affiliations: None Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	well, will there be laz0rz for the spawns, or are you gonna cover em up with doors (i support second option, just laz0rz are so annoying because laz0rz dont stop bullets!) __________________ http://static.adrive.com/images/ads/...rbo_468x60.gif DAN MAPES!

03-01-2008, 12:55 AM	#70
ensiform Time Lord, Doctor Beta Tester Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: The TARDIS Class/Position: Engineer Gametype: CTF Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	trigger_ff_clip that blocks all projectiles and bullets ftw. (not just enemies) There was a debate on this and TBH it should block all regardless of the team set for players. This way players cannot sit behind and lay the pipe traps but actually have to be outside, tho they could still hide and wait for detpipe. Please make sure the yard has some signs or icons that say which one is which. Can be confusing sometimes (especially in heat of battle). Last edited by ensiform; 03-01-2008 at 02:38 AM.

03-01-2008, 03:49 AM	#71
GambiT Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Baton Rouge Class/Position: Spy Affiliations: -=DoM=- Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	my apologies, i jumped the gun, there will be lasers where the spawns are, but thats it.. __________________ -------------------------------FF_Rock2(WIP)------------------------------ ---------------------------FF_RedGiant(Released)------------------------- --------------------------FF_Fragzone_G(Released)------------------------ --------------------------FF_Civibash_G(Released)------------------------ -------------------FF_Conc_G1(WIP)-------------------- -------------------FF_Hollow_G(WIP)---------------------

03-01-2008, 04:03 AM	#72
greenday5494 Holy shit, thats kerrigan! D&A Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Class/Position: D, whatever the team needs, usually engy Gametype: AvD Affiliations: None Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	ah okay. sweetness now. GET BACK TO MAPPIN'!! __________________ http://static.adrive.com/images/ads/...rbo_468x60.gif DAN MAPES!

03-01-2008, 03:14 PM	#74
GambiT Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Baton Rouge Class/Position: Spy Affiliations: -=DoM=- Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	probably wont be able to build sg's in the spawn. __________________ -------------------------------FF_Rock2(WIP)------------------------------ ---------------------------FF_RedGiant(Released)------------------------- --------------------------FF_Fragzone_G(Released)------------------------ --------------------------FF_Civibash_G(Released)------------------------ -------------------FF_Conc_G1(WIP)-------------------- -------------------FF_Hollow_G(WIP)---------------------

03-01-2008, 07:14 PM	#75
Adamido Its over nine thousands!!! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Poland Class/Position: midmap pyro / o spy Gametype: AvD Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	You should place something in the middle of the map.

03-01-2008, 09:06 PM	#76
Hirohito The last true Emperor D&A Member Wiki Team Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I like the yard as-is. Makes it easy for the attackers to conc over to the wings.

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03-07-2008, 06:09 PM	#79
DarkieJ Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	how far is it? :P

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