The Mosque

[BinaryLife]

Also if he was truely a biggot then why would he be so concerned with hiding it? That would be his opinion and he would state it. You aren't helping.

[Bridget]

Yeah, totally. If those republicans were true homosexuals, then why would they be so concerned with hiding it? That would be their choice, and they would state it.

[BinaryLife]

Your analogy is wrong. Homosexual is not the same as being a bigot. You are merely trying to flame your way into some sort of argument. Which is all fine and dandy. This is the internet. But it's foolish for you to pretend you have any sort of high ground. No one thinks you're "debating." That's the real reason innoc isn't responding to you, I think. Because you aren't worth it.

[Bridget]

The analogy wasn't comparing apples to oranges like you think. I'm not flaming my way into an argument. Innoc is a bigot. He has proven that point time and time again on multiple threads. It's just irritating when he runs from the arguments when he gets called out on it. I'm not debating. There's no question behind it. I just want him to man up and admit it. Oh, he's probably not responding to me because he apparently has me on 'ignore'. Ignoring people critical of you is the best way to persist in delusion.

So, Binary, continue to defend bigots. You're doing a good job.

[Etzell]

Originally Posted by BinaryLife

That's the real reason innoc isn't responding to you, I think. Because you aren't worth it.

This statement would be true if he'd responded to anyone asking for clarification. Regardless of Bridget being a prick about it, the simple fact is he's been asked by many people to clarify his stance, and he won't.

[GenghisTron]

Originally Posted by Bridget

Innoc can't explain his the ultimate reasoning behind his opinion on the cultural center because that would reveal himself as the bigot he is. Why do you think he consistently dodges the conversation when the focus turns to his reasoning and opinions? Why do you think he has to constantly opt out of the conversation by calling everyone else aggressors and pretending to be a victim? It's bullshit. Why waste people's time lying through your teeth? Why waste time with the excuses? Just admit you're a bigot so we can move on.

Funny, the same people who think the Second Amendment allows individuals to own army tanks, don't think that the doctrine of separation of church and state, and the abolition of religious intolerance applies to the mosque debate. Similarly, they also don't think that our status as a Constitutional Republic (ie, equal treatment under the law) allows for gays to be treated equally.

Cherry picking is fun.

[GenghisTron]

Also, you guys may be overlooking the fact that while his views are certainly bigoted, he might not even realize it because he's simply getting his views from other sources. In other words, his conclusions on issues are not arrived at based on his own introspection and philosophizing. It could be from watching/listening to the media, like FOX and it's proxy organizations, or it could be because his views are the only views he's socially allowed to keep. Perhaps if he started accepting gay marriage as the only logical conclusion, he'd be ostracized socially for doing so.

[Bridget]

We'll all be in the nursing home by the time Innoc explains himself.

[Iggy]

Originally Posted by GenghisTron

Funny, the same people who think the Second Amendment allows individuals to own army tanks, don't think that the doctrine of separation of church and state, and the abolition of religious intolerance applies to the mosque debate. Similarly, they also don't think that our status as a Constitutional Republic (ie, equal treatment under the law) allows for gays to be treated equally.

Cherry picking is fun.

I really don't see a problem with owning an army tank, so long as the firing mechs are removed. I mean, how would you apply for a "right to carry" for something like that? Yes, the vehicle itself could do major damage, but which ones couldn't?

[Bridget]

You don't even need the firing mechanisms removed. If you're capable of owning a tank, I should be capable of owning anti-tank weaponry.

[GenghisTron]

My point was broader than the specifics of the tank, jackasses.

[Bridget]

Take your attitude back to Taco Bell, GT.

[GenghisTron]

Bake me a muffin, faggot.

[Bridget]

My point was broader than the specifics of the food, jackass.

[GenghisTron]

nice avatar lol fag

[Bridget]

Oh, I see. You mad 'cause I'm vimmin' on you?

[Innoc]

Originally Posted by YomMamasHouse

Yes but if you antagonize him it will delay the process.

Don't worry. Bridget made it to my ignore list a couple of weeks ago.

The reason I haven't responded as I have in fact been very busy. Two major code projects approaching a developed state and lots of activity in my personal life.

Frankly I just realize that it's pointless to try to "discuss" anything here as few really read what I post any way and they quickly superimpose their immutable views about me or "my kind". The very same intolerance they claim to oppose is exhibited when any opportunity for dialogue occurs.

As implied before my view is that there was colossal tragedy that occurred close to this location. I would like to see the mosque built elsewhere out of respect and sensitivity for those that lost their dearest blood at the hands of the radical fringe of Islam. That's it. It seems to me that some of you really don't get the ability to agree to disagree without vitriol, insults or condescension.

Look...you see nothing wrong with them building it there. Fine. It's simply a difference in how we view and weigh things. And that's ok too.

[Etzell]

Innoc: I legitimately ask why you're letting the radical fringe define the entirety. You can claim that you're not, but you are. What of the American Muslims that died?

[GenghisTron]

Originally Posted by Etzell

Innoc: I legitimately ask why you're letting the radical fringe define the entirety. You can claim that you're not, but you are. What of the American Muslims that died?

He's a victim, duh!

[WiFiDi]

Originally Posted by GenghisTron

Also, you guys may be overlooking the fact that while his views are certainly bigoted, he might not even realize it because he's simply getting his views from other sources. In other words, his conclusions on issues are not arrived at based on his own introspection and philosophizing. It could be from watching/listening to the media, like FOX and it's proxy organizations, or it could be because his views are the only views he's socially allowed to keep. Perhaps if he started accepting gay marriage as the only logical conclusion, he'd be ostracized socially for doing so.

interesting view also note that all the other news stations are loaded with liberal bias so the guy that owns fox decided to make his station biased conservatively. its a genius plan and actually got more views than the other news stations. (and the more views the more money to fund his giant mansions that he has in Australia yea that's right hes an Aussie.) so my question for you is this while the guy that owns fox is sitting pretty out there in Australia, do you watch fox news or do you just watch the liberal biased stations. (CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS etc...)