Garry's MOD to be sold through STEAM. - Page 3

o_backstaber · 04-15-2006, 03:47 AM

He did say he wasn't going to sell it as a mod. Now that he has the Uncompiled Source Code, he can make his own game without the limits of the SDK, and that itself is worth $10,000 or so. So theres more to this then it just being a "sellout" .

o_nezumi · 04-15-2006, 09:22 PM

Where'd he get the source code?

Circuitous · 04-15-2006, 09:38 PM

Apparently Valve was like "Here, have it!"

o_rebo · 04-15-2006, 09:53 PM

I dont know a great deal about his mod, but assuming he didnt mislead anyone good luck to him.

o_lazy eye · 04-16-2006, 06:42 PM

I can garuntee that if STEAM was not here this wouldnt happen.Steam is just an organization out to make money.This is all lawyer shit i'm telling you it is.And the badf thing is that i know steam and valve have a bigass contracvt so form now on valve probly dont even have a voice in this.My point is Garry Lied!He said I will not sell this mod,it will fuck up the community.And what does he do???He sells it because steam comes knockin on his door with lawyers and law suits telling him "Hey we wont press charges if you go ahead and let us sell your mod for 10$ via steam".And yall are gobnna say wtf he cant be suied hes usin the source code VALVE put out well geuss what its called LAWYERS there evil and will find anyway to get more money steam has fucked this whole thing up!

o_lazy eye · 04-16-2006, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by rebo

I dont know a great deal about his mod, but assuming he didnt mislead anyone good luck to him.

Dude he lied!!!He mislead evryone saying he would not sell it!

(sorry for double post)

o_mescalito · 04-16-2006, 06:46 PM

uhh well that's what i call proper fucked. atleast he got an excuse now. like, he didn't sell it for the money...

o_puppychow · 04-16-2006, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Lazy Eye

I can garuntee that if STEAM was not here this wouldnt happen.Steam is just an organization out to make money.This is all lawyer shit i'm telling you it is.And the badf thing is that i know steam and valve have a bigass contracvt so form now on valve probly dont even have a voice in this.My point is Garry Lied!He said I will not sell this mod,it will fuck up the community.And what does he do???He sells it because steam comes knockin on his door with lawyers and law suits telling him "Hey we wont press charges if you go ahead and let us sell your mod for 10$ via steam".And yall are gobnna say wtf he cant be suied hes usin the source code VALVE put out well geuss what its called LAWYERS there evil and will find anyway to get more money steam has fucked this whole thing up!

err you do know valve = steam, right?

puppystarts thinking Lazy Eye is being stupid on purpose and i bought it.

o_etzell · 04-16-2006, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Lazy Eye

I can garuntee that if STEAM was not here this wouldnt happen.Steam is just an organization out to make money.This is all lawyer shit i'm telling you it is.And the badf thing is that i know steam and valve have a bigass contracvt so form now on valve probly dont even have a voice in this.My point is Garry Lied!He said I will not sell this mod,it will fuck up the community.And what does he do???He sells it because steam comes knockin on his door with lawyers and law suits telling him "Hey we wont press charges if you go ahead and let us sell your mod for 10$ via steam".And yall are gobnna say wtf he cant be suied hes usin the source code VALVE put out well geuss what its called LAWYERS there evil and will find anyway to get more money steam has fucked this whole thing up!

Uh... what about CS? Valve bought CS, and the rights to it so they can use it as they see fit. While they haven't made money directly from it, they've probably sold countless copies of HL1 and HL2 because of it.
As for your conspiracy theory lawyer bullshit, WTF? Valve is one of the most mod-supportive developers out there, so it doesn't follow that they're going to use legal muscle to get a worthless mod that they already own the property to. Garry's mod is basically Ragdoll Kung Fu, a mod made that Valve thinks that the developer has the potential to and has bought. Garry isn't doing this to make money off of Gmod, he did it for the unlimited source code that he's going to use to make an actual game. Yeah, he's a lying POS but he did it for an understandable reason.

You obviously have a fear of Valve and Lawyers.
"I must seek Buddha. I must seek Christ."
"...You must seek therapy."

o_nezumi · 04-16-2006, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Lazy Eye

Valve is an organization out to make money.

Fixed for you. And no shit dude. It's called a 'business' and 'capitalism'. Welcome to the world.

(I'm still pissed at Garry for other reasons)

o_lazy eye · 04-16-2006, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Nezumi

Fixed for you. And no shit dude. It's called a 'business' and 'capitalism'. Welcome to the world.

(I'm still pissed at Garry for other reasons)

WTF i did not say valve STEAM IS THE ONE OUT TO MAKE MONEY AND NOT WORRY ABOUT THERE CUSTOMERS!!!Valve atleast wants there customers to be happy!

o_lazy eye · 04-16-2006, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Etzell

Uh... what about CS? Valve bought CS, and the rights to it so they can use it as they see fit. While they haven't made money directly from it, they've probably sold countless copies of HL1 and HL2 because of it.
As for your conspiracy theory lawyer bullshit, WTF? Valve is one of the most mod-supportive developers out there, so it doesn't follow that they're going to use legal muscle to get a worthless mod that they already own the property to. Garry's mod is basically Ragdoll Kung Fu, a mod made that Valve thinks that the developer has the potential to and has bought. Garry isn't doing this to make money off of Gmod, he did it for the unlimited source code that he's going to use to make an actual game. Yeah, he's a lying POS but he did it for an understandable reason.

You obviously have a fear of Valve and Lawyers.
"I must seek Buddha. I must seek Christ."
"...You must seek therapy."

Valve isnt the one doing this shit! Steam is!

o_puppychow · 04-16-2006, 08:17 PM

ok, i know im taking the bait again, but under the small chance that you really didn't know this, valve created steam. they're the same company (actually to be exact, steam is a service of valve, not a company).

i feel myg0t'ed

**mervaka** · 04-16-2006, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Lazy Eye

Valve isnt the one doing this shit! Steam is!

you're for real, yeah?

o_general levy · 04-16-2006, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Lazy Eye

Valve isnt the one doing this shit! Steam is!

go back to teh cs nation comments board, you're not wanted here.

o_sensai · 04-16-2006, 09:13 PM

I'd personally like to know when Steam became a separate entity from Valve, Lazy Eye. Please show documentation of this (websites, PDFs, interviews, etc).

o_mortal · 04-16-2006, 10:18 PM

One hour ago I was like... "Hmm, I need to see it before this guy gets my ten bucks."
Now I've seen some secret screenshots of it (sorry, can't link you to them), and I've told myself that I'll pay $10 for the next version of Garry's Mod even though I haven't played Gmod 9 for three months now.
When Garry gets the full source, he will be able to do stuff we can't even imagine (I know, it's kinda scary.)
And not only Garry will get access to creepy functions deeply buried in the source, Lua developers will also get an access to the engine that is very low level (at least compared to the level Lua for Gmod 9 is on).
I'll buy Gmod 10, and I'll buy it for all the gamemodes 'Team Garry' will produce, but also as a developer for the engine bindings and other functions available through Lua.
Anyway, just my five cents.
// Mortal.

o_rp · 04-16-2006, 10:25 PM

This is a video from the next version, and this is alone could be enough:
http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~brad...rts_battle.avi

trepid_jon · 04-16-2006, 10:34 PM

Yeah, the next/retail version of Garry's Mod is gonna be pretty awesome compared to the old/free versions we've had so far...and gmod will get even better with each update (just like before, only more door on the core floor of torn aborted baby smores, what?). I say that just because of the gmod dev shit I've casually been following...like how they basically remade the lua implementation to be a lot more awesome...check out this kickass thread that's related to this kickass blog post (where something big with Valve happens to be mentioned as well...which I remember readin' and thinkin' maybe gmod would become freely distributed through Steam...so close, but I lose).

I think selling Garry's Mod will only make it a lot better, because they'll be able to treat their Garry's Mod work like an actual game development job instead of just some hobby done in their spare time. I hope that also means high quality official maps being made for Garry's Mod, but I have no idea...they should do that, but I don't know if that's their goal.

Fortress Forever will always be free, though. So don't get it twisted by thinkin' I want Fortress Forever to be sold just because Garry's Mod is being sold.

Annnnywho...

o_skanky butterpuss · 04-16-2006, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RP

This is a video from the next version, and this is alone could be enough:
http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~brad...rts_battle.avi

that was pretty boring actually

04-15-2006, 09:38 PM	#43
Circuitous Useless Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jun 2005 Class/Position: D Soldier, O Scout Gametype: AvD Posts Rated Helpful 9 Times	Apparently Valve was like "Here, have it!" __________________ Look at all those dead links.

04-16-2006, 10:34 PM	#59
trepid_jon Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Dallas, TX Class/Position: D Civilian Gametype: Rocket Jousting Affiliations: EAFD Posts Rated Helpful 78 Times	Yeah, the next/retail version of Garry's Mod is gonna be pretty awesome compared to the old/free versions we've had so far...and gmod will get even better with each update (just like before, only more door on the core floor of torn aborted baby smores, what?). I say that just because of the gmod dev shit I've casually been following...like how they basically remade the lua implementation to be a lot more awesome...check out this kickass thread that's related to this kickass blog post (where something big with Valve happens to be mentioned as well...which I remember readin' and thinkin' maybe gmod would become freely distributed through Steam...so close, but I lose). I think selling Garry's Mod will only make it a lot better, because they'll be able to treat their Garry's Mod work like an actual game development job instead of just some hobby done in their spare time. I hope that also means high quality official maps being made for Garry's Mod, but I have no idea...they should do that, but I don't know if that's their goal. Fortress Forever will always be free, though. So don't get it twisted by thinkin' I want Fortress Forever to be sold just because Garry's Mod is being sold. Annnnywho... __________________ Support FF: Trepid steamcommunity.com/id/trepid_jon/

04-15-2006, 03:47 AM	#41
o_backstaber Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: New Jersey, USA! Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	He did say he wasn't going to sell it as a mod. Now that he has the Uncompiled Source Code, he can make his own game without the limits of the SDK, and that itself is worth $10,000 or so. So theres more to this then it just being a "sellout" .

04-15-2006, 09:22 PM	#42
o_nezumi Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Peoples Republic of Harmfull Free Radicals Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Where'd he get the source code?

04-15-2006, 09:53 PM	#44
o_rebo Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	I dont know a great deal about his mod, but assuming he didnt mislead anyone good luck to him.

04-16-2006, 06:42 PM	#45
o_lazy eye Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I can garuntee that if STEAM was not here this wouldnt happen.Steam is just an organization out to make money.This is all lawyer shit i'm telling you it is.And the badf thing is that i know steam and valve have a bigass contracvt so form now on valve probly dont even have a voice in this.My point is Garry Lied!He said I will not sell this mod,it will fuck up the community.And what does he do???He sells it because steam comes knockin on his door with lawyers and law suits telling him "Hey we wont press charges if you go ahead and let us sell your mod for 10$ via steam".And yall are gobnna say wtf he cant be suied hes usin the source code VALVE put out well geuss what its called LAWYERS there evil and will find anyway to get more money steam has fucked this whole thing up!

04-16-2006, 06:46 PM	#47
o_mescalito Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Israel Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	uhh well that's what i call proper fucked. atleast he got an excuse now. like, he didn't sell it for the money...

04-16-2006, 08:17 PM	#53
o_puppychow Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Washington DC Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	ok, i know im taking the bait again, but under the small chance that you really didn't know this, valve created steam. they're the same company (actually to be exact, steam is a service of valve, not a company). i feel myg0t'ed

04-16-2006, 09:13 PM	#56
o_sensai Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I'd personally like to know when Steam became a separate entity from Valve, Lazy Eye. Please show documentation of this (websites, PDFs, interviews, etc).

04-16-2006, 10:18 PM	#57
o_mortal Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Denmark Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	One hour ago I was like... "Hmm, I need to see it before this guy gets my ten bucks." Now I've seen some secret screenshots of it (sorry, can't link you to them), and I've told myself that I'll pay $10 for the next version of Garry's Mod even though I haven't played Gmod 9 for three months now. When Garry gets the full source, he will be able to do stuff we can't even imagine (I know, it's kinda scary.) And not only Garry will get access to creepy functions deeply buried in the source, Lua developers will also get an access to the engine that is very low level (at least compared to the level Lua for Gmod 9 is on). I'll buy Gmod 10, and I'll buy it for all the gamemodes 'Team Garry' will produce, but also as a developer for the engine bindings and other functions available through Lua. Anyway, just my five cents. // Mortal.

04-16-2006, 10:25 PM	#58
o_rp Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Israel Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	This is a video from the next version, and this is alone could be enough: http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~brad...rts_battle.avi

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