Thank you for not releasing a beta - Page 3

o_nezumi · 10-02-2006, 10:02 PM

Yea, they've got essentially a decade of feedback/playtesting already.

o_gray · 10-06-2006, 05:37 PM

IMHO, the biggest mistake you guys made was NOT releasing a beta ASAP. I'm afraid TF2 is easily gonna win the battle in popularity, unless FF has some surprising elements we dont know of yet.

Sure, if you guys insist not releasing a beta, its up to the team ofcourse, your choice. But a bad choice if you ask me and as the future will most likely point out.

o_sobe green · 10-06-2006, 06:18 PM

TF2 will have the higher population count regardless. This isn't a competition. The two games are based on the same thing but in the end are two completely different games.

o_sabre · 10-06-2006, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Gray

IMHO, the biggest mistake you guys made was NOT releasing a beta ASAP. I'm afraid TF2 is easily gonna win the battle in popularity, unless FF has some surprising elements we dont know of yet.

Sure, if you guys insist not releasing a beta, its up to the team ofcourse, your choice. But a bad choice if you ask me and as the future will most likely point out.

Yes Gray if FF released a beta it would have been more popular than a Valve developed (marketed, advertised and pretty much shoved down steam users necks) game. The dev team (and anyone in the community with a brain) know they are targeting a different, smaller audience, not competing with Valve to see who can attract the most players.

o_puppychow · 10-06-2006, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SoBe Green

TF2 will have the higher population count regardless. This isn't a competition. The two games are based on the same thing but in the end are two completely different games.

qft. the question isn't who will have the lager playerbase, the question is will ff have enough consistent players to keep the game afloat for some time, making it easy to find servers etc..

o_c4menace · 10-06-2006, 06:57 PM

id rather have a finished version then a beta

o_shade · 10-06-2006, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Circuitous

The "release early and often" thing works for new games, not so much for a tried-and-true establishment like TF.

Amen!

o_shade · 10-06-2006, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by puppychow

qft. the question isn't who will have the lager playerbase, the question is will ff have enough consistent players to keep the game afloat for some time, making it easy to find servers etc..

TF2 may have a bigger playerbase, due to better advertising and visibility to your average gamer. Initially it will for sure. But it will be interesting to see if that lasts.

And then you have the TF community, I wonder how many of them will take more than a glance at TF2? Maybe a lot, maybe not.

I know that I will not play it because of a number of issues that are key for me. One of the biggest is the redesign of the 'Medic'. Wtf is that about? I mean, I am all for evolution, but that wasn't evolution that was rape! So my second favorite class is no more in TF2.

My first favorite class is apparently boned by rag dolls, so Spy is out in either game. But hey, FF not only has the Medic class, but it has all the other things I love about Team Fortress too.

So I will be right here waiting patiently for FF. TF2 has nothing for me.

Lost · 10-06-2006, 11:47 PM

I'll play TF2, mainly because it comes with Ep2 and Portal, but I'll play it.

Circuitous · 10-07-2006, 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by FireDragoN33

Oh and I'm a fast learner too.

Your continued posting leads me to believe otherwise.

o_pyromainiac · 10-07-2006, 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by FireDragoN33

You wanna challenge me when FF comes out then?

he doesn't mean ingame.

o_psycnet · 10-07-2006, 05:44 AM

If it takes this much explaining...well...

The non-release of a beta is more of a good thing than a bad thing, despite what those who are impatient say

o_sizeablessonic · 10-08-2006, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Oinker

NINTENDO WOOOHOOO!!! Imma camp outside my gamestop :O! hahaha.

I plan to do the same as well. My 250$ are waiting.

o_golfisfun · 10-08-2006, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by c4Menace

id rather have a finished version then a beta

I agree with you but i think a big scale beta would help the team see more bugs and here what is good and what sucks

Circuitous · 10-08-2006, 10:00 PM

Which is why they're steadily expanding the beta group as they get more and more done.

Yay!

o_df` · 10-09-2006, 02:12 AM

So wait, did that firedragon guy get erased from the forums? All his posts are gone. Not that it's a terrible loss, but what has our society come to when we addban people just for not being so sharp and/or mature?

It's like throwing someone in jail for failing an IQ test, or because they say stupid shit. I'm sure that for pretty much everyone, there's an earlier version of yourself for which if you could meet them now, you'd very much want to punch them in the face, or worse.

o_skull · 10-09-2006, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Lost

I'll play TF2, mainly because it comes with Ep2 and Portal, but I'll play it.

Absolutely.

o_psycnet · 10-09-2006, 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by df`

So wait, did that firedragon guy get erased from the forums? All his posts are gone. Not that it's a terrible loss, but what has our society come to when we addban people just for not being so sharp and/or mature?

It's like throwing someone in jail for failing an IQ test, or because they say stupid shit. I'm sure that for pretty much everyone, there's an earlier version of yourself for which if you could meet them now, you'd very much want to punch them in the face, or worse.

I think it was because he directly insulted or attacked one of the devs...

So basically it was more like the man with the failed IQ test throwing rocks at a cop

o_df` · 10-09-2006, 03:10 AM

Man... see, they should leave that stuff up so the rest of us can /popcorn when we get here late =\

o_nezumi · 10-09-2006, 03:51 PM

Truly. If they edited a particularly offensive post I wouldn't really complain I guess.

10-06-2006, 11:47 PM	#49
Lost Fear teh crowbar. Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Oklahoma Gametype: CTF ftw, yeh Posts Rated Helpful 6 Times	I'll play TF2, mainly because it comes with Ep2 and Portal, but I'll play it. __________________ Do what you want cuz a pirate is free! You are a pirate!

10-08-2006, 10:00 PM	#55
Circuitous Useless Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jun 2005 Class/Position: D Soldier, O Scout Gametype: AvD Posts Rated Helpful 9 Times	Which is why they're steadily expanding the beta group as they get more and more done. Yay! __________________ Look at all those dead links.

10-02-2006, 10:02 PM	#41
o_nezumi Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Peoples Republic of Harmfull Free Radicals Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Yea, they've got essentially a decade of feedback/playtesting already.

10-06-2006, 05:37 PM	#42
o_gray Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	IMHO, the biggest mistake you guys made was NOT releasing a beta ASAP. I'm afraid TF2 is easily gonna win the battle in popularity, unless FF has some surprising elements we dont know of yet. Sure, if you guys insist not releasing a beta, its up to the team ofcourse, your choice. But a bad choice if you ask me and as the future will most likely point out.

10-06-2006, 06:18 PM	#43
o_sobe green Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Arkansas Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	TF2 will have the higher population count regardless. This isn't a competition. The two games are based on the same thing but in the end are two completely different games.

10-06-2006, 06:57 PM	#46
o_c4menace Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	id rather have a finished version then a beta

10-07-2006, 05:44 AM	#52
o_psycnet Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Calgary, Canada eh? Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	If it takes this much explaining...well... The non-release of a beta is more of a good thing than a bad thing, despite what those who are impatient say

10-09-2006, 02:12 AM	#56
o_df` Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	So wait, did that firedragon guy get erased from the forums? All his posts are gone. Not that it's a terrible loss, but what has our society come to when we addban people just for not being so sharp and/or mature? It's like throwing someone in jail for failing an IQ test, or because they say stupid shit. I'm sure that for pretty much everyone, there's an earlier version of yourself for which if you could meet them now, you'd very much want to punch them in the face, or worse.

10-09-2006, 03:10 AM	#59
o_df` Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Man... see, they should leave that stuff up so the rest of us can /popcorn when we get here late =\

10-09-2006, 03:51 PM	#60
o_nezumi Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Peoples Republic of Harmfull Free Radicals Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Truly. If they edited a particularly offensive post I wouldn't really complain I guess.

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