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o_monkeystevie · 04-23-2005, 04:45 PM

Will mousewheel be unbindable for jump, like ETF?

o_otiz · 04-23-2005, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dospac

You won't really need to use mwheel. Play ETF if you're curious what it will be like.

That's not the point. I like jumping with the wheel and I've gotten used to it. Not only in half-life game but in all shooters I play now, I always bind the wheel to jump. Weapon switching on the wheel seems pointless when you have them on 1,2,3,4,5...

edit: I can't imagine going back to using space.. that's my special now (blow up pipes etc). If the wheel must go I will probably use mouse2, but then I have to find a place for me gren1!

o_etzell · 04-23-2005, 06:05 PM

I'm like Otiz. I have my wheel bound to jump, and in TFC I use fastswitch, so I can just click 5 and have my rocket launcher out. Don't take away my wheel!

o_elvis2049 · 04-23-2005, 08:31 PM

spacebar 4 jumping ownz imo

cant jump or hop with mousewheel.
mousewheel up or down is flag trowing :P

o_jarek · 04-23-2005, 09:17 PM

i think the q3 part was referring to trimping, which i heard will be side by side with rampsliding. definately sounds like offense will be extremely fun (as i am a rampsliding whore)

o_travis dane · 04-23-2005, 09:18 PM

Please don't dumb bunnyhopping down too much, just to cater the masses. TFC isn't a game for the masses, we have CS to cater the generic crowd.

In my opinion movement in TFC was PERFECT. It's fast, it's exact, it's linear, just absolutely perfected for climbing\concing\rocketing. And I honestly do hope FF won't deviate (take the skill out) too much. Where it comes down to, is wether or not we'll be able to do the things we could do in TFC (maneuver in EXACT precision from ledge to ledge, in climb maps for example).

Dospac · 04-24-2005, 05:37 PM

You could certainly use the mousewheel to jump, that would just be odd for aiming in general, if there was no other advantage to using the wheel. By all means. .

o_otiz · 04-24-2005, 05:53 PM

Sorry, why would it be weird for aiming?

Dospac · 04-24-2005, 05:56 PM

It's weird in general because you are using that hand to aim. The less you do with your mouse hand beyond aiming and firing the better. Do you use your middle finger on the wheel or do you slide your index finger over?

o_otiz · 04-24-2005, 06:06 PM

Of course I use my middle man!

Then my thumb on mouse4 for gren2 and another finger mouse2 gren1. I play mostly DM medic and I have a decent aim so... isn't weird at all fro me. By the way I have a MX510.

o_darthtoast · 04-25-2005, 03:57 PM

The AC kills more than anything!

o_ekim · 04-25-2005, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Travis Dane

Please don't dumb bunnyhopping down too much, just to cater the masses. TFC isn't a game for the masses, we have CS to cater the generic crowd.

In my opinion movement in TFC was PERFECT. It's fast, it's exact, it's linear, just absolutely perfected for climbing\concing\rocketing. And I honestly do hope FF won't deviate (take the skill out) too much. Where it comes down to, is wether or not we'll be able to do the things we could do in TFC (maneuver in EXACT precision from ledge to ledge, in climb maps for example).

The timing of the jumps was done by scripting/mwheel by pretty much every TFC player (clanned at least). So automating the timing won't remove much of the skill...

Dospac · 04-27-2005, 01:06 AM

ekiM is right. The idea is to even the playing field and make everything in the game available out of the box. No obscure scripts or deep knowledge of the game/community required to learn the various techniques.

o_torn · 04-27-2005, 05:09 AM

tfc soldiers = tfc rl? ewww

o_zixel · 05-11-2005, 03:52 PM

OK, you remove the fraggrens. So let the demomen use them, cos he is a dude who should have an explosives

04-23-2005, 04:45 PM	#41
o_monkeystevie Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Glasgow, Scotland. Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Will mousewheel be unbindable for jump, like ETF?

04-23-2005, 06:05 PM	#43
o_etzell Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I'm like Otiz. I have my wheel bound to jump, and in TFC I use fastswitch, so I can just click 5 and have my rocket launcher out. Don't take away my wheel!

04-23-2005, 08:31 PM	#44
o_elvis2049 Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	spacebar 4 jumping ownz imo cant jump or hop with mousewheel. mousewheel up or down is flag trowing :P

04-23-2005, 09:17 PM	#45
o_jarek Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	i think the q3 part was referring to trimping, which i heard will be side by side with rampsliding. definately sounds like offense will be extremely fun (as i am a rampsliding whore)

04-23-2005, 09:18 PM	#46
o_travis dane Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Down here Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Please don't dumb bunnyhopping down too much, just to cater the masses. TFC isn't a game for the masses, we have CS to cater the generic crowd. In my opinion movement in TFC was PERFECT. It's fast, it's exact, it's linear, just absolutely perfected for climbing\concing\rocketing. And I honestly do hope FF won't deviate (take the skill out) too much. Where it comes down to, is wether or not we'll be able to do the things we could do in TFC (maneuver in EXACT precision from ledge to ledge, in climb maps for example).

04-24-2005, 05:37 PM	#47
Dospac Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	You could certainly use the mousewheel to jump, that would just be odd for aiming in general, if there was no other advantage to using the wheel. By all means. .

04-24-2005, 05:53 PM	#48
o_otiz Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Iceland Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Sorry, why would it be weird for aiming?

04-24-2005, 05:56 PM	#49
Dospac Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	It's weird in general because you are using that hand to aim. The less you do with your mouse hand beyond aiming and firing the better. Do you use your middle finger on the wheel or do you slide your index finger over?

04-24-2005, 06:06 PM	#50
o_otiz Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Iceland Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Of course I use my middle man! Then my thumb on mouse4 for gren2 and another finger mouse2 gren1. I play mostly DM medic and I have a decent aim so... isn't weird at all fro me. By the way I have a MX510.

04-25-2005, 03:57 PM	#51
o_darthtoast Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	The AC kills more than anything!

04-27-2005, 01:06 AM	#53
Dospac Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	ekiM is right. The idea is to even the playing field and make everything in the game available out of the box. No obscure scripts or deep knowledge of the game/community required to learn the various techniques.

04-27-2005, 05:09 AM	#54
o_torn Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	tfc soldiers = tfc rl? ewww

05-11-2005, 03:52 PM	#55
o_zixel Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	OK, you remove the fraggrens. So let the demomen use them, cos he is a dude who should have an explosives

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