Frag grenade model completed and textured - Page 3

o_smiling_ol_fu · 01-20-2005, 08:55 PM

ok , thx

o_pedro · 01-20-2005, 09:14 PM

Pixels are square, not curved. Its totally imposible to make a 3D object, or anything infact, round.

o_sev · 01-20-2005, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedro

Pixels are square, not curved. Its totally imposible to make a 3D object, or anything infact, round.

NURBS would like to have a word with you

o_eat · 01-21-2005, 03:37 AM

Who's this Nurbs fellow and what the hell has it got to do with him?

o_zydell · 01-21-2005, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedro

Pixels are square, not curved. Its totally imposible to make a 3D object, or anything infact, round.

lol thats nonsense, pixels isnt really a 3d term either, 3d models (well regular 3d models) are built up with triangles (called 'faces'), so if you would like to make a model completely round you will have to greatly increase the triangle or polygon count which your 3d card or processor will not appreciate. In hl1 the polycount for a model was 600-800 or something with the newer engines it's about 3000-5000 so you can imagine what impact it will have on the way models look. Wheter a model looks round or not depends on the polycount, in theory you cannot make a completely round model but if you increase the poly's enough you will not be ably to see the difference either (will have a really fps though :P)

o_storm · 01-21-2005, 11:45 AM

It's not nonsense, its true! Circles are only hypothetically perfect :P

o_anshinritsumai · 01-21-2005, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by eat

Who's this Nurbs fellow and what the hell has it got to do with him?

NURBS and Polygons dude....

Polygons are essentially, what every game dev / modder works with, so it is absolutely impossible to have a rounded object.

NURBS on the other hand, can have a rounded object and have no other faces, like the polygon would...

NURBS = Organic-based models; water, balls, etc...
Polygons = Everything else.

o_sev · 01-21-2005, 12:52 PM

NURBS stands for Non uniform rational B (bezier) spline, and uses mathematical equations, much like vector based stuff, to render shapes

o_zydell · 01-21-2005, 01:04 PM

NURBS is great but it's not implemented in 3d games really, Ive seen alot of really horny 3d renders but if you like those I suggest you browse the cgtalk.com forums

o_sev · 01-21-2005, 01:13 PM

NURBS is for lamers anyway, real men push polygons around

o_spud · 01-21-2005, 04:49 PM

Now sev apprears to be sprouting bollocks out of his arse.

o_sev · 01-21-2005, 04:52 PM

You must be one of them nurbs fags too!

o_spud · 01-21-2005, 04:54 PM

Bollocks I tell ya!

o_-m- · 01-21-2005, 06:23 PM

Very nice

Tumbs up

o_qbaler · 01-21-2005, 06:27 PM

looking good team and I am enjoying this discotion of nurbs noobs pixels round and fags... keep it up!

Jiggles · 01-21-2005, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sev

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedro

Pixels are square, not curved. Its totally imposible to make a 3D object, or anything infact, round.

NURBS would like to have a word with you

Except that NURBS get tesselated when rendered. So the end result isn't round either

o_sev · 01-21-2005, 07:39 PM

It is in theory and that's all that matters

o_binarylife · 01-21-2005, 07:41 PM

Theoreticle math concepts involve circles being the result of several thousand lines and in turn angles/courners. As a apposed to a single, curved line.

So, even though you're using pixels, given their small relational size, it's quite possible to create perfectly rounded, or circular, objects.

o_ekim · 01-22-2005, 01:35 PM

Several thousands? How about an infinite number

o_saintgreg · 01-22-2005, 03:10 PM

Real men must take a long time to make a decent cruved surface sev :P . NURBS are good for what they are good for

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01-20-2005, 08:55 PM	#41
o_smiling_ol_fu Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	ok , thx

01-20-2005, 09:14 PM	#42
o_pedro Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Norwich, UK Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Pixels are square, not curved. Its totally imposible to make a 3D object, or anything infact, round.

01-21-2005, 03:37 AM	#44
o_eat Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Who's this Nurbs fellow and what the hell has it got to do with him?

01-21-2005, 11:45 AM	#46
o_storm Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: SCOTLAND (above England) Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	It's not nonsense, its true! Circles are only hypothetically perfect :P

01-21-2005, 12:52 PM	#48
o_sev Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	NURBS stands for Non uniform rational B (bezier) spline, and uses mathematical equations, much like vector based stuff, to render shapes

01-21-2005, 01:04 PM	#49
o_zydell Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	NURBS is great but it's not implemented in 3d games really, Ive seen alot of really horny 3d renders but if you like those I suggest you browse the cgtalk.com forums

01-21-2005, 01:13 PM	#50
o_sev Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	NURBS is for lamers anyway, real men push polygons around

01-21-2005, 04:49 PM	#51
o_spud Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	Now sev apprears to be sprouting bollocks out of his arse.

01-21-2005, 04:52 PM	#52
o_sev Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	You must be one of them nurbs fags too!

01-21-2005, 04:54 PM	#53
o_spud Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	Bollocks I tell ya!

01-21-2005, 06:23 PM	#54
o_-m- Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Amsterdam Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Very nice Tumbs up

01-21-2005, 06:27 PM	#55
o_qbaler Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Boston Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	looking good team and I am enjoying this discotion of nurbs noobs pixels round and fags... keep it up!

01-21-2005, 07:39 PM	#57
o_sev Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	It is in theory and that's all that matters

01-21-2005, 07:41 PM	#58
o_binarylife Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Theoreticle math concepts involve circles being the result of several thousand lines and in turn angles/courners. As a apposed to a single, curved line. So, even though you're using pixels, given their small relational size, it's quite possible to create perfectly rounded, or circular, objects.

01-22-2005, 01:35 PM	#59
o_ekim Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bristol UK Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	Several thousands? How about an infinite number

01-22-2005, 03:10 PM	#60
o_saintgreg Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Real men must take a long time to make a decent cruved surface sev :P . NURBS are good for what they are good for .

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