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o_sobe green · 03-03-2006, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Vertical

Well for one thing I doubt most of you realize just how customizable vb forums are (the answer is VERY VERY much so) You could pretty much customize it to behave almost just like the phpBB forums did, it just takes time, so lay off it a bit, I am sure that FB is fully aware at how bad this theme sucks and will make every effort to quickly change it and create another/more themes for us to use. No need in bringing all of this up the day the forum change is made before he even has time to do anything with it. (I'd say give em' a few weeks, it's alot of work)

As for the admining with vb compaired to phpBB, well theres no compairison... phpBB absolutely sucks at it, while vb has more features than you can fit on a posterboard (or well, alot!).

To remove the slashes from your sig, just edit the sig, no need for them to add stripslashes() it was just a product of the forum changeover.

I'd hope that when someone decided to change the message boards they would have a theme near completion already rather than starting work on it after the switch. Especially when we are left with this very very poor theme. I'm glad they can moderate the boards better. Seems kind of pointless when it is almost not even worth the effort of trying to post. I think more is going on here than we think. There must be a reason the switch was made other than "it is easier to admin on Vb". Especially after we went so long without having an official theme on phpBB. After we get one we have to put up with this garbage.

I don't mean to be hostile about any of this at all. I just hate that one of my favorite places to visit has became one of my least favorite due to poor navigation. I think it was a poor choice to switch without atleast using another theme.

Don't give me the "Its only been up for one day!" garbage. It doesn't take five minutes to upload another theme that would atleast serve as a better temp theme. I've been here for a little over a year and up until now there wasn't a problem. But I guess phpBB is just soo bad right?

o_tennovan · 03-03-2006, 12:52 AM

If someone offered me something better than what I currently have, I'd take it. If its that bad, just turn the computer off for a day or two and then come back. Things should be getting back to normal by then since I can already see the cosmetic changes being made. I'm not trying to be one of those guys that says "Then just leave!" but putting up with an inferior layout for a couple days doesn't seem so bad when you consider how much better things will be around here.

mirvin_monkey · 03-03-2006, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by SoBe Green

I think more is going on here than we think. There must be a reason the switch was made other than "it is easier to admin on Vb".

haha yeah we have all sorts of top secret evil plans going on

o_tennovan · 03-03-2006, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by mirvin_monkey

haha yeah we have all sorts of top secret evil plans going on

I knew it! You're planning to take over the world and now I demand to be part of the team.

o_sobe green · 03-03-2006, 12:59 AM

If it shows up in a few days thats great. But it took a very long time to finally get a default theme for phpBB. I finally started getting used to the newer theme there and now I have to put up with this.

Right now all I'm see is instability. How about we stick to something?

I figure I'm coming off alot more hostile than I actually am. I really just don't want to put up with this theme for two or three months because someone made an extremely bad decision.

o_yomamashouse · 03-03-2006, 01:01 AM

As ugly as the current skin is it really doesnt bother me. I dont know where this navigating problem comes in, other than having to scroll to the top(ZOMG!) to go back to the forum.

o_tennovan · 03-03-2006, 01:02 AM

Well I know in my case, when I start making changes to a website, I usually keep working until I'm finished (unless its a huge project). I don't think they'd make forum changes without making sure everything looks good and works properly.

I could be wrong though since I'm pretty sure (like 92% sure) its not actually ME working on the forum.

o_sobe green · 03-03-2006, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by YoMamasHouse

As ugly as the curretn skin is it really doesnt bother me. I dont know where this navigating problem comes in, other than having to scroll to the top(ZOMG!) to go back to the forum.

Well with someone who makes such quality posts like you do I wouldn't expect you to. The worst issue is that when you read a topic it doesn't always mark it read. Along with the fact that the graphics look too much alike so it is hard to figure out which topics have been read and which haven't. Everyone seems to have issues when trying to view the "Next page" in the main board view.

mirvin_monkey · 03-03-2006, 01:22 AM

edit: Nevermind, we're stuck with it now anyway!!

o_kam · 03-03-2006, 01:29 AM

Holy crap that is sad sobe...
You realise not everyone is you? The skin is as good as default phpbb skin to me.

Posts do get marked as read (maybe try clearing your cache).
It's pretty obvious which havent been read when the titles are bold or just use "new posts".
See the "Page 2 of 2 < 1 2" thing after the last post and above the first? Surprise, that changes pages...

Seems like you just can't handle change.

Circuitous · 03-03-2006, 01:31 AM

I've noticed that occasionally if you jump from a thread back to the main page it will say you have unread posts, and then if you go to check all the threads will be read. If you jump from a thread, to the category, to the main board, you'll be fine.

o_kam · 03-03-2006, 01:38 AM

Might wanna try marking all as read too (its on the quicklinks dropdown)

edit: yeah im pretty sure that's the problem, the imported db stuff is being all weird, just mark all as read and it should be fixed

Circuitous · 03-03-2006, 01:50 AM

That's a new problem actually. It was working fine before, but now every thread from yesterday on is marked unread. Easy fix.

o_sobe green · 03-03-2006, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by kam

Holy crap that is sad sobe...
You realise not everyone is you? The skin is as good as default phpbb skin to me.

Posts do get marked as read (maybe try clearing your cache).
It's pretty obvious which havent been read when the titles are bold or just use "new posts".
See the "Page 2 of 2 < 1 2" thing after the last post and above the first? Surprise, that changes pages...

Seems like you just can't handle change.

Yes I do realise that not everyone is me. Where did you think otherwise?

mirvin_monkey · 03-03-2006, 02:14 AM

i changed some settings to fix the unread posts problem, looks like all the imported threads turning unread was a side-effect. sorry!

o_deadly furby · 03-03-2006, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by SoBe Green

The new forums are gross. I'll give it a second chance with the new skin but after that I don't think I'll stick around if it is still this bad. Why did the change happen in the first place? Everything was great with the old one.

Wow...this will be my first NEGATIVE post. I agree, this is really, really bad. This is typical of problems that I've worked on for many years. A new program or policy is put into place without ever really considering what the end users will be dealing with. Looks like that's the case on this one.

It was always so easy to simply check the view posts made since last visit. Now....where the hell do you even begin?

Sorry guyz.....but this really sux

o_yoshura · 03-03-2006, 03:07 AM

MAYBE THE RELEASE OF FF IS NEAR!?!?!?!

<not all caps>

Edit: Why does it say FortressForverPURPLE at the top?

Its kinda easy to tell the posts. If theres no papers in the envelope, then theres no new posts in it, and if the envelope is red, that means its getting alot of posts

and in the main list, if the clipboard is gray, then theres no new posts there.

o_kbomb · 03-03-2006, 03:11 AM

I also do not understand how these boards are now "harder to navigate." It looks about 99% identical to every forum I've ever been on (basic feature wise.)

As far as the icons denoting which posts your have read and which you have not, I was unaware anyone even needed that feature in order to know which posts they have read and which they haven't. I always browse this forum not-logged in, then only log in if I am going to post, so I guess I am just used to not using it.

Jiggles · 03-03-2006, 03:21 AM

I was ok with the Devs changing some aspects of TFC, but changing my forum requires extreme acts of retribution!

o_yomamashouse · 03-03-2006, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by kam

Holy crap that is sad sobe...
You realise not everyone is you? The skin is as good as default phpbb skin to me.

Posts do get marked as read (maybe try clearing your cache).
It's pretty obvious which havent been read when the titles are bold or just use "new posts".
See the "Page 2 of 2 < 1 2" thing after the last post and above the first? Surprise, that changes pages...

Seems like you just can't handle change.

Not everyone is as good and mature as Sobe, try to be understanding.

03-03-2006, 01:31 AM	#51
Circuitous Useless Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jun 2005 Class/Position: D Soldier, O Scout Gametype: AvD Posts Rated Helpful 9 Times	I've noticed that occasionally if you jump from a thread back to the main page it will say you have unread posts, and then if you go to check all the threads will be read. If you jump from a thread, to the category, to the main board, you'll be fine. __________________ Look at all those dead links.

03-03-2006, 01:50 AM	#53
Circuitous Useless Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jun 2005 Class/Position: D Soldier, O Scout Gametype: AvD Posts Rated Helpful 9 Times	That's a new problem actually. It was working fine before, but now every thread from yesterday on is marked unread. Easy fix. __________________ Look at all those dead links.

03-03-2006, 12:52 AM	#42
o_tennovan Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Texas Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	If someone offered me something better than what I currently have, I'd take it. If its that bad, just turn the computer off for a day or two and then come back. Things should be getting back to normal by then since I can already see the cosmetic changes being made. I'm not trying to be one of those guys that says "Then just leave!" but putting up with an inferior layout for a couple days doesn't seem so bad when you consider how much better things will be around here.

03-03-2006, 12:59 AM	#45
o_sobe green Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Arkansas Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	If it shows up in a few days thats great. But it took a very long time to finally get a default theme for phpBB. I finally started getting used to the newer theme there and now I have to put up with this. Right now all I'm see is instability. How about we stick to something? I figure I'm coming off alot more hostile than I actually am. I really just don't want to put up with this theme for two or three months because someone made an extremely bad decision.

03-03-2006, 01:01 AM	#46
o_yomamashouse Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Your Mamas House Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	As ugly as the current skin is it really doesnt bother me. I dont know where this navigating problem comes in, other than having to scroll to the top(ZOMG!) to go back to the forum.

03-03-2006, 01:02 AM	#47
o_tennovan Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Texas Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Well I know in my case, when I start making changes to a website, I usually keep working until I'm finished (unless its a huge project). I don't think they'd make forum changes without making sure everything looks good and works properly. I could be wrong though since I'm pretty sure (like 92% sure) its not actually ME working on the forum.

03-03-2006, 01:22 AM	#49
mirvin_monkey Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cape Town, SA Posts Rated Helpful 8 Times	edit: Nevermind, we're stuck with it now anyway!!

03-03-2006, 01:29 AM	#50
o_kam Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melbourne Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Holy crap that is sad sobe... You realise not everyone is you? The skin is as good as default phpbb skin to me. Posts do get marked as read (maybe try clearing your cache). It's pretty obvious which havent been read when the titles are bold or just use "new posts". See the "Page 2 of 2 < 1 2" thing after the last post and above the first? Surprise, that changes pages... Seems like you just can't handle change.

03-03-2006, 01:38 AM	#52
o_kam Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melbourne Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Might wanna try marking all as read too (its on the quicklinks dropdown) edit: yeah im pretty sure that's the problem, the imported db stuff is being all weird, just mark all as read and it should be fixed

03-03-2006, 02:14 AM	#55
mirvin_monkey Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cape Town, SA Posts Rated Helpful 8 Times	i changed some settings to fix the unread posts problem, looks like all the imported threads turning unread was a side-effect. sorry!

03-03-2006, 03:07 AM	#57
o_yoshura Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Canada Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	MAYBE THE RELEASE OF FF IS NEAR!?!?!?! <not all caps> Edit: Why does it say FortressForverPURPLE at the top? Its kinda easy to tell the posts. If theres no papers in the envelope, then theres no new posts in it, and if the envelope is red, that means its getting alot of posts and in the main list, if the clipboard is gray, then theres no new posts there.

03-03-2006, 03:11 AM	#58
o_kbomb Join Date: May 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I also do not understand how these boards are now "harder to navigate." It looks about 99% identical to every forum I've ever been on (basic feature wise.) As far as the icons denoting which posts your have read and which you have not, I was unaware anyone even needed that feature in order to know which posts they have read and which they haven't. I always browse this forum not-logged in, then only log in if I am going to post, so I guess I am just used to not using it.

03-03-2006, 03:21 AM	#59
Jiggles Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: CowTown Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I was ok with the Devs changing some aspects of TFC, but changing my forum requires extreme acts of retribution!

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