TFC - Demoman's pipes - Page 2

o_wlvy · 09-19-2006, 07:13 PM

Whatever you may say, I think they are green too! its "+attack2" to det your pipes.

So obviously bind "mouse2" "+attack2" in console. Or you can put it in config.cfg

o_zydell · 09-19-2006, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by nagual678

Couldn't you use the exact same reasonment, and say that in light the red cones are more stimulated than the green cones, thus rendering the object yellow ?

Nah, I believe thinking that would be a bit silly

o_pixel · 09-19-2006, 08:53 PM

they are green on the actually skin. so you lose

o_zydell · 09-19-2006, 10:32 PM

hahaha

your logic sucks, try again

o_nezumi · 09-19-2006, 11:51 PM

Well, the color of something is defined by perception of it. And I perceive them as green.

Which means they're green to everyone.

o_fjorn · 09-20-2006, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Zydell

Nah, I believe thinking that would be a bit silly

so its only "allowed" when it proves your point?

Circuitous · 09-20-2006, 02:09 AM

Hey, he gets it!

o_fjorn · 09-20-2006, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Circuitous

Hey, he gets it!

exactly.

o_kam · 09-20-2006, 04:10 AM

wow
yellow vs bad eye sight thread #5908

o_zydell · 09-20-2006, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Nezumi

Well, the color of something is defined by perception of it. And I perceive them as green.

How can something (a color) be defined as something that is actually different to everyone over something that is defined as one thing but only perceived differently to everyone? The last one makes a lot more sense to me!

I really dont get it, why do people make assumptions like this:
- they are green on the actually skin
- the color of something is defined by perception of it

that true?! why?! how 'd you know for sure?? did you study color theory? do you know anything about how the eye perceives color??

At least I come up with something better

It all comes down to this:I think the color is green because.. euh.well.. they look green to me :E

o_ivaqual · 09-20-2006, 07:44 AM

Did you know that in some cultures, yellow doesn't even exist, and they have colours that we can't tell. ok not really, the point is that their delimitations of the colour spectrum are different. some don't have such and such colour, another one has if i can remember well 3 colours we can only define as "orange".

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It all comes down to this:I think the color is green because.. euh.well.. they look green to me :E

Yah well.. Aren't you saying exactly the same thing for yellow ?

o_zydell · 09-20-2006, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by nagual678

Did you know that in some cultures, yellow doesn't even exist, and they have colours that we can't tell. ok not really, the point is that their delimitations of the colour spectrum are different. some don't have such and such colour, another one has if i can remember well 3 colours we can only define as "orange".

But you are still talking about perception, and I am saying that the actual color values for the pipes (as can be measured by photoshop) are closer towards yellow than green. Then I am giving an explanation why they look more green if this yellow color is looked at with low contrast/brightness, thus making it appeal green.

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Originally Posted by nagual678

Yah well.. Aren't you saying exactly the same thing for yellow ?

No,

o_ivaqual · 09-20-2006, 11:23 AM

You missed my whole point. As you just said, colours are defined by perception. There is no "actual photoshop color value" that defines the colour yellow.

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Originally Posted by Zydell

No,

Yes !

o_zydell · 09-20-2006, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by nagual678

You missed my whole point. As you just said, colours are defined by perception. There is no "actual photoshop color value" that defines the colour yellow.

No, I never said that colo(u)rs are defined by perception and I dont believe they are because perception is fooled by a lot of factors.

o_ivaqual · 09-20-2006, 11:31 AM

Yes I used a wrong word, but you still are either ignoring or completely missing my points.

simply put : define the colour "yellow"

o_frenchtoast · 09-20-2006, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Zydell

Turn up your monitor contrast/brightness goddamit, you'll see they are yellow.

That's the dumbest fucking reasoning ever. If you turn the brightness up enough, EVERYTHING'S YELLOW.

o_zydell · 09-20-2006, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by nagual678

Yes I used a wrong word, but you still are either ignoring or completely missing my points.

simply put : define the colour "yellow"

well you can look that up on wikipedia: yellow wavelength: 565-590nm. More importantly the color of the pipes are somewhere on the gradient ranging from pure yellow to black; how people can say any color on that gradient is green; is a mystery to me

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Originally Posted by FrenchToast

That's the dumbest fucking reasoning ever. If you turn the brightness up enough, EVERYTHING'S YELLOW.

no; not really but if you can make everything yellow by turning brightness up on your monitor I'll join your team. And it was just an example; what I actually want you to do is find a nice flower that's yellow; and look at it again by night; because that's the same thing with the color of the pipes; it's a darker yellow; somehow people think it's green

(silly people!!)

o_pussyhunter · 09-20-2006, 12:46 PM

Them pipes is green I tells ya!

Circuitous · 09-20-2006, 07:04 PM

They're fucking yellow-green, you twats. It's not a binary option between yellow and green, THERE ARE DIFFERENT SHADES WITHIN THE TWO. Check a box of crayons for crying out loud. THREE YEAR OLDS KNOW WHAT YELLOW-GREEN IS.

o_df` · 09-20-2006, 07:30 PM

I think the people who say they are green are just trolls who get a kick out of these arguments. And I happily contribute this post as fuel for the fire.

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Circuitous Useless Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jun 2005 Class/Position: D Soldier, O Scout Gametype: AvD Posts Rated Helpful 9 Times	Hey, he gets it! __________________ Look at all those dead links.

09-20-2006, 07:04 PM	#39
Circuitous Useless Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jun 2005 Class/Position: D Soldier, O Scout Gametype: AvD Posts Rated Helpful 9 Times	They're fucking yellow-green, you twats. It's not a binary option between yellow and green, THERE ARE DIFFERENT SHADES WITHIN THE TWO. Check a box of crayons for crying out loud. THREE YEAR OLDS KNOW WHAT YELLOW-GREEN IS. __________________ Look at all those dead links.

09-19-2006, 07:13 PM	#21
o_wlvy Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Whatever you may say, I think they are green too! its "+attack2" to det your pipes. So obviously bind "mouse2" "+attack2" in console. Or you can put it in config.cfg

09-19-2006, 08:53 PM	#23
o_pixel Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	they are green on the actually skin. so you lose

09-19-2006, 10:32 PM	#24
o_zydell Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	hahaha your logic sucks, try again

09-19-2006, 11:51 PM	#25
o_nezumi Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Peoples Republic of Harmfull Free Radicals Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Well, the color of something is defined by perception of it. And I perceive them as green. Which means they're green to everyone.

09-20-2006, 04:10 AM	#29
o_kam Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melbourne Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	wow yellow vs bad eye sight thread #5908

09-20-2006, 11:31 AM	#35
o_ivaqual Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Europe, Front Yard Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Yes I used a wrong word, but you still are either ignoring or completely missing my points. simply put : define the colour "yellow"

09-20-2006, 12:46 PM	#38
o_pussyhunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Northampton, England Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Them pipes is green I tells ya!

09-20-2006, 07:30 PM	#40
o_df` Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I think the people who say they are green are just trolls who get a kick out of these arguments. And I happily contribute this post as fuel for the fire.

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