SG push is overpowered - Page 2

Raynian · 06-27-2011, 10:27 AM

Sorry.

I do have some screens, though.

chilledsanity · 06-27-2011, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by The Obtuse Rubber Goose

The improved bullet push should be restored to its original value.

Oh the ORIGINAL values huh? So we should make it stronger then? With the recent changes I think these values are fine.

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Originally Posted by Trailer

Those of you that think the sg is over powered now.... Did any of you even play TFC?

Thank god, I don't have to be the sole person on the entire forum to bring this up anymore. In the past I've been amazed by claims of how overpowered the sg is when it was less powerful than TFC's ever was. From reading some forum posts, you'd think that no one ever played TFC because the sentry was so overpowered it was impossible.

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Originally Posted by eomoyaff

Seriously, you guys want some godly overpowered peice of shit sentry. Not going to happen. I'll say this again. FF sentry gun is a diversion weapon.

The 2.41 sg WAS a diversion weapon, you're right about that. The problem was if you had a scout rocketing in towards a cap that would end the game, all you had pretty much were pipe traps as a last line of defense and some gamemodes simply needed more than a diversion. 2.42 has really helped in that regard. There's a middle ground between "diversion weapon" and "overpowered piece of shit", it's called "effective."

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Originally Posted by The Obtuse Rubber Goose

Rather than calling it a diversion weapon, I think of it as a tool. The 2.41 sentry is perfect the way it is.

The 2.41 sg was shit for AvD or I/D, it simply didn't stop people from capping and led to very fast games, leaving the balance on those game modes fucked for years. That's not perfect. Perfect for pickups maybe (though I've read dissent on that), but not the game as a whole

episkopos · 06-27-2011, 12:14 PM

I'm okay with the current values. I was okay with the old values. It's a moot point really.

**Elmo** · 06-27-2011, 12:55 PM

what he said. Although I actually like the feeling of being pushed around, it encorages me not to get caught by it.

carryonplease · 06-27-2011, 08:48 PM

the SG now is fine. as long as you know how to conc at max speed it doesn't matter because it won't even lock on. thats part of getting better at the game.

WiFiDi · 06-29-2011, 12:07 AM

i like it alot better now havn't run into it to much but it can kill me before i get off 5 shots at it.

also the game isn't all about pickup.

eomoyaff · 06-29-2011, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Ventry(Leo Wainker)

Originally Posted by eomoyaff
Brb, Butthurt because I can no longer conc into a flag room straight into the teeth of a sentries fire, nail and gren it to death then do a 180 deg in mid air, grab the flag and exit with ease and do it over and over in a mad capping frenzy.
*fixed*

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Originally Posted by The Obtuse Rubber Goose
Rather than calling it a diversion weapon, I think of it as a tool. The 2.41 sentry is perfect the way it is.

if an engineer is paying attention, his sentry gun and his dispenser are enough
Oh BS.
I consider myself one of the better (not best) engys that still play and the old sentry sucked balls. Loved the TFC sentry.

Actually, I can still do that. I'll show you the next time you're around..

between 2.41 and 2.42, I like both sentries. It's really just barely noticeable anyway, at least from an offensive perspective. I remember in 2.41 that at the right angle, the rocket from the sg would plug me in mid-air. I have yet to see a difference between them.

06-27-2011, 10:27 AM	#21
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06-27-2011, 08:48 PM	#25
carryonplease Join Date: Jun 2010 Gametype: Capture the Flag Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	the SG now is fine. as long as you know how to conc at max speed it doesn't matter because it won't even lock on. thats part of getting better at the game.
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06-29-2011, 12:07 AM	#26
WiFiDi Beta Tester Join Date: May 2010 Class/Position: Soldier Gametype: Capture the Flag is there any other Posts Rated Helpful 26 Times	i like it alot better now havn't run into it to much but it can kill me before i get off 5 shots at it. also the game isn't all about pickup. __________________ WiFi's Stream Support FF: Failure is always an option. It's a happy massacre?! (yes, yes it is!) To make most awesome thing in universe combine Bears and Nicholas Cage! and remember kids, we didn't start the flame-war!

06-27-2011, 12:14 PM	#23
episkopos D&A Member Beta Tester Join Date: Jun 2010 Class/Position: anything but Sniper and Spy Posts Rated Helpful 6 Times	I'm okay with the current values. I was okay with the old values. It's a moot point really.

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