The return of ff_flexibility - Page 2

Adamido · 03-07-2008, 06:09 PM

It will rock, if you put some big crates/other objects inside. Empty map = lose. Simple, isnt it?

dr.flexyjerkov · 03-07-2008, 08:00 PM

Basic Environment lighting and a few spot lights...

Thumb nails too

oh and i aint keeping the water lol

Dr.Satan · 03-07-2008, 08:02 PM

Nice job on the thumb nails and it's looking very nice man!

dr.flexyjerkov · 03-07-2008, 08:06 PM

Well u'll now have to wait till sunday night for the next update as i cant be bothered any more tonight :P

Dr.Satan · 03-07-2008, 08:10 PM

rgr...just keep em coming!

Mr. Happy · 03-07-2008, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dr.flexyjerkov

Is there anything to keep in mind like the r_speeds with HL1.

There's no hard epoly/wpoly guidelines anymore, but there's also more advanced methods of seeing how well your map is running.

For the simplest idea, check out net_graph 1 in the console, to get an fps meter in your bottom right hand corner. For real analysis, type +showbudget in the console (and -showbudget to get rid of it).

Pay attention to which bars are spiking and where and how much. The length of the bar corresponds to the time in milliseconds it's taking for the engine to compute that specific thing. For an explanation of what each one measures, click here

Other helpfull stuff for you will be mat_wireframe 0/1/2/3 and mat_leafvis 0/1 to see what is being rendered when and what leaf you are in at any one time.

**Crazycarl** · 03-09-2008, 09:06 PM

Looks good. I've got some lighting tips:

On the indoor shot, look at those walls where the sunlight is hitting. If you go into Hammer and turn the luxel size(or lightmap resolution or whatever) of those faces down to 4 or so, those shadows will start lookng sexy. You are going to have to work more on this area because it's still very dim.

On the outdoor part: Those spotlights look way too bright. Any light of reasonable brightness wouldn't be visible in direct sunlight.

greenday5494 · 03-09-2008, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dr.flexyjerkov

It's always a pain making maps on high end machines or low end machines as you have to get it in the middle and what seems to run smooth for me may run like a bitch for others...

Is there anything to keep in mind like the r_speeds with HL1.

yes there is, it's called +showbudget to show exactly what is being rendered. there's two of em. +showbudget, and +showbudget_texture or just showbudget_texture

it shows exactly what would be running you down. refraction, reflection, textures, etc

mr. happy beat me to it

dr.flexyjerkov · 03-09-2008, 09:30 PM

They only look bright because i've yet to assign any sort of lighting inside yet. thats just the lighting from the lights.rad i think?

dr.flexyjerkov · 03-11-2008, 11:22 PM

NEWS:

Been working on the map all this evening and finally have a rough idea how the bridge will look. Have a bottomless foggy pit in place and now slowly working on the extra lighting outside. Oh how its looking so pretty now

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Heres a teaser without the bridge...

Dr.Satan · 03-11-2008, 11:53 PM

looking good man!

Dr.Satan · 03-31-2008, 02:07 PM

Hey flexy any update?

Skanky Butterpuss · 03-31-2008, 04:50 PM

tf2_flexibilty2 eh? TRAITOR

dr.flexyjerkov · 04-07-2008, 05:54 PM

Sorry i vanished for so long, not had a chance just recently to work on the map though will get back onto it when i can.

Desyphur · 04-07-2008, 06:36 PM

What's up with the tf2_flexibility? Huh? HUUUH?

[AE] 82694 · 04-07-2008, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Desyphur

What's up with the tf2_flexibility? Huh? HUUUH?

< SPANKS ^. Fucker Don't you know this is FF. STFU.

03-07-2008, 08:02 PM	#23
Dr.Satan Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Greeley, CO Class/Position: Med / Solly Gametype: PAYLOAD Affiliations: DET- Posts Rated Helpful 19 Times	Nice job on the thumb nails and it's looking very nice man! __________________ FF Community Map Pack(s): 1 / 2 (Released) conc_school \| hellion_classic \| ksour_PAYLOAD \| mulch_faf (Beta) alchimy_b1 (Lua) base_payload_2015 (Models) props_trainyard Support FF:

03-07-2008, 08:10 PM	#25
Dr.Satan Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Greeley, CO Class/Position: Med / Solly Gametype: PAYLOAD Affiliations: DET- Posts Rated Helpful 19 Times	rgr...just keep em coming! __________________ FF Community Map Pack(s): 1 / 2 (Released) conc_school \| hellion_classic \| ksour_PAYLOAD \| mulch_faf (Beta) alchimy_b1 (Lua) base_payload_2015 (Models) props_trainyard Support FF:

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Dr.Satan Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Greeley, CO Class/Position: Med / Solly Gametype: PAYLOAD Affiliations: DET- Posts Rated Helpful 19 Times	looking good man! __________________ FF Community Map Pack(s): 1 / 2 (Released) conc_school \| hellion_classic \| ksour_PAYLOAD \| mulch_faf (Beta) alchimy_b1 (Lua) base_payload_2015 (Models) props_trainyard Support FF:

03-31-2008, 02:07 PM	#32
Dr.Satan Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Greeley, CO Class/Position: Med / Solly Gametype: PAYLOAD Affiliations: DET- Posts Rated Helpful 19 Times	Hey flexy any update? __________________ FF Community Map Pack(s): 1 / 2 (Released) conc_school \| hellion_classic \| ksour_PAYLOAD \| mulch_faf (Beta) alchimy_b1 (Lua) base_payload_2015 (Models) props_trainyard Support FF:

03-31-2008, 04:50 PM	#33
Skanky Butterpuss Beware the Hammer D&A Member Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Class/Position: Sabotaging your shit. Affiliations: :}\|, mimic, /KBN/ Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	tf2_flexibilty2 eh? TRAITOR __________________ Support FF: Etzell: Skanky Etzell: The Wings are fucking fantastic Etzell: They really are Etzell: But even SAYING that makes me want to vomit

03-07-2008, 06:09 PM	#21
Adamido Its over nine thousands!!! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Poland Class/Position: midmap pyro / o spy Gametype: AvD Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	It will rock, if you put some big crates/other objects inside. Empty map = lose. Simple, isnt it?

03-07-2008, 08:00 PM	#22
dr.flexyjerkov Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Basic Environment lighting and a few spot lights... Thumb nails too oh and i aint keeping the water lol

03-07-2008, 08:06 PM	#24
dr.flexyjerkov Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Well u'll now have to wait till sunday night for the next update as i cant be bothered any more tonight :P

03-09-2008, 09:06 PM	#27
Crazycarl D&A Member Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 31 Times	Looks good. I've got some lighting tips: On the indoor shot, look at those walls where the sunlight is hitting. If you go into Hammer and turn the luxel size(or lightmap resolution or whatever) of those faces down to 4 or so, those shadows will start lookng sexy. You are going to have to work more on this area because it's still very dim. On the outdoor part: Those spotlights look way too bright. Any light of reasonable brightness wouldn't be visible in direct sunlight.

03-09-2008, 09:30 PM	#29
dr.flexyjerkov Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	They only look bright because i've yet to assign any sort of lighting inside yet. thats just the lighting from the lights.rad i think?

03-11-2008, 11:22 PM	#30
dr.flexyjerkov Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	NEWS: Been working on the map all this evening and finally have a rough idea how the bridge will look. Have a bottomless foggy pit in place and now slowly working on the extra lighting outside. Oh how its looking so pretty now . Heres a teaser without the bridge...

04-07-2008, 05:54 PM	#34
dr.flexyjerkov Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Sorry i vanished for so long, not had a chance just recently to work on the map though will get back onto it when i can.

04-07-2008, 06:36 PM	#35
Desyphur OHH! OHHH NOOO! Wiki Team Beta Tester Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	What's up with the tf2_flexibility? Huh? HUUUH? __________________ What was left of my sanity implored me not to enter...but that voice was just a whisper now.

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