my 8v8 scouting plays of the week: 13th-17th Oct 2008 - Page 2

Credge · 10-28-2008, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by caesium

(everything from much more stand-out and distinctive models to very distinct and "readable" animations to a conc effect that doesn't warp the universe, etc)

I agree so much. The conc warping the universe around it is both very confusing for new players and incredibly annoying. Also, I showed a friend of mine who mods a video of the game (not yours) and he thought that the player models looked HL1 quality.

I think the models and general animation stuffs need a bit of work.

glass · 10-28-2008, 01:17 PM

Those pipes are the strobe pipes from partials pack.

http://www.fortress-forever.com/foru...ad.php?t=16307

pF · 10-28-2008, 02:53 PM

Get us another 5 modellers and animators and we can get started.. at the current pace it'll take a while ;P

Garland-W · 10-28-2008, 06:00 PM

I just downloaded FF 2.1 yesterday and from what I've played so far it seems that it is a lot more messy than TFC was, that is, in TFC it was much easier to tell wtf was going on. It might be because I'm used to TFC more but since FF isn't so different from TFC I think there is something about FF that makes it indistinct.

ryu^ · 10-28-2008, 07:05 PM

you're right garland, im not 100% sure what it is, it might be down to playing tfc for so long, but you could just feel yourself in the game and you are totally aware of your surroundings, what you wanted to do and whats going on, don't really know how to convey what i want to say, it's just something in fortress forever just doesn't feel perfect like tfc did.

fishBurger · 10-28-2008, 07:27 PM

I think part of it is just the difference of the engine. Goldsource / TFC's models and environments were very concrete, solid with sharp edges and distinct borders.

Source / FF is a bit more... slick?

Paft · 10-28-2008, 08:14 PM

It's like that with any game you move over to that the previous game you've solely played for ages, really.

Good stuff Caesium. Love your stuff, I really do.

Edit: I have to watch Skillout and Beyond now. Particularly for dido. Love it.

SmellyCat · 10-28-2008, 08:17 PM

CS 1.6 -> Source feels the same as TFC -> FF for me. I could agree that it's just the source engine that's makes it quite weird to get used to.

Garland-W · 10-29-2008, 04:49 PM

Whatever it is, it might very well be that I'm not used to source but whatever it is, it feels like it makes FF not quite as fun as TFC.

Player · 10-29-2008, 06:46 PM

It makes me play less Fortress Forever, that is all I can say :P

pF · 10-29-2008, 07:20 PM

Hmm i dunno.. welcome to 21st century computer games..?

Player · 10-29-2008, 10:01 PM

I play cpma and warsow (and fortress forever)! :P

Circuitous · 10-29-2008, 10:47 PM

I think it really does have a lot to do with how Source renders things... there's also a whole lot to be said for our models and textures. They blend. Player textures are about the same res as wall textures, and pretty much everyone is wearing camo. TFC had higher-res player textures against lower-res wall textures for immediate sharpness, and costumes that sharply contrasted against their environment.

Garland-W · 10-29-2008, 11:40 PM

Is it the same for say CS: Source, that the textures are the same res? I find it very easy to make out those models. Well, it's also a much slower game but still...

Circuitous · 10-29-2008, 11:45 PM

Yeah but they don't blend in quite as well either.

Credge · 10-29-2008, 11:52 PM

Blending isn't a major issue for me as I use the old TFC models (low-res models against high-res textures). Before it wasn't as big of a deal for me either, although I've heard plenty of other people complain about it... including those I've shown the game.

I think alternative skins for the player models would be nice. Something with less camo and more TF flare. Over the top, easy to see, skins. maybe even some pink helmets for the engineers.

BlisTer · 10-30-2008, 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zelenjava

His strategies for stow are most appreciated (lol)

lol!

Anyway, nice juking moves there caes.

Lateralols · 10-30-2008, 02:11 AM

Was fun to conc shotty you and watch you fly over my head on shutdown2 the other day

euro pickups ftw!

kayone · 10-30-2008, 02:29 PM

I agree, some nice clips.

We've popped the youtube stream of the vid on our site to try and get it as much coverage as possible. Coverage to show potential players/old TFC players what FF Gameplay has to offer, ultimately introducing more new faces to the scene!

10-28-2008, 02:53 PM	#23
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10-28-2008, 07:05 PM	#25
ryu^ Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	you're right garland, im not 100% sure what it is, it might be down to playing tfc for so long, but you could just feel yourself in the game and you are totally aware of your surroundings, what you wanted to do and whats going on, don't really know how to convey what i want to say, it's just something in fortress forever just doesn't feel perfect like tfc did. __________________ Support FF:

10-28-2008, 07:27 PM	#26
fishBurger get off my lawn Join Date: Mar 2007 Class/Position: O scout / demo Gametype: killing Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I think part of it is just the difference of the engine. Goldsource / TFC's models and environments were very concrete, solid with sharp edges and distinct borders. Source / FF is a bit more... slick? __________________ That means that either you are an American, or you are NOT an American. There is no hyphenated exception. -Iggy

10-28-2008, 08:14 PM	#27
Paft Beta Tester Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: UK - http://forums.fortress-forever.com Class/Position: [O] Med Gametype: CTF/Skills Posts Rated Helpful 67 Times	It's like that with any game you move over to that the previous game you've solely played for ages, really. Good stuff Caesium. Love your stuff, I really do. Edit: I have to watch Skillout and Beyond now. Particularly for dido. Love it. __________________ TFC Resource TFC/FF/TF2 customs at: ZZUBYTTIHS - www.tfcgaschamber.com - www.ozfortress.com - www.fpsbanana.com - mrclan.com - TFC Essentials Jan 2012

10-29-2008, 07:20 PM	#31
pF no war but class war Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: big bad berlin Class/Position: Soldier / Scout Gametype: ctf Affiliations: [w~k!] Posts Rated Helpful 3 Times	Hmm i dunno.. welcome to 21st century computer games..? __________________ Support FF: Gay And Lesbian Fiction \| Teen Books \| Bath Products

10-28-2008, 01:17 PM	#22
glass Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Stockholm Class/Position: D demoman. Gametype: ctf Affiliations: Clan Untitled [-] Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Those pipes are the strobe pipes from partials pack. http://www.fortress-forever.com/foru...ad.php?t=16307

10-28-2008, 06:00 PM	#24
Garland-W Understand ye yet or what? Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Sweden Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I just downloaded FF 2.1 yesterday and from what I've played so far it seems that it is a lot more messy than TFC was, that is, in TFC it was much easier to tell wtf was going on. It might be because I'm used to TFC more but since FF isn't so different from TFC I think there is something about FF that makes it indistinct.

10-28-2008, 08:17 PM	#28
SmellyCat Darknight Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: England Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	CS 1.6 -> Source feels the same as TFC -> FF for me. I could agree that it's just the source engine that's makes it quite weird to get used to.

10-29-2008, 04:49 PM	#29
Garland-W Understand ye yet or what? Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Sweden Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Whatever it is, it might very well be that I'm not used to source but whatever it is, it feels like it makes FF not quite as fun as TFC.

10-29-2008, 06:46 PM	#30
Player D&A Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Europe Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	It makes me play less Fortress Forever, that is all I can say :P

10-29-2008, 10:01 PM	#32
Player D&A Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Europe Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	I play cpma and warsow (and fortress forever)! :P

10-29-2008, 10:47 PM	#33
Circuitous Useless Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jun 2005 Class/Position: D Soldier, O Scout Gametype: AvD Posts Rated Helpful 9 Times	I think it really does have a lot to do with how Source renders things... there's also a whole lot to be said for our models and textures. They blend. Player textures are about the same res as wall textures, and pretty much everyone is wearing camo. TFC had higher-res player textures against lower-res wall textures for immediate sharpness, and costumes that sharply contrasted against their environment. __________________ Look at all those dead links.

10-29-2008, 11:40 PM	#34
Garland-W Understand ye yet or what? Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Sweden Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Is it the same for say CS: Source, that the textures are the same res? I find it very easy to make out those models. Well, it's also a much slower game but still...

10-29-2008, 11:45 PM	#35
Circuitous Useless Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jun 2005 Class/Position: D Soldier, O Scout Gametype: AvD Posts Rated Helpful 9 Times	Yeah but they don't blend in quite as well either. __________________ Look at all those dead links.

10-29-2008, 11:52 PM	#36
Credge FF Loremaster Beta Tester Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 4 Times	Blending isn't a major issue for me as I use the old TFC models (low-res models against high-res textures). Before it wasn't as big of a deal for me either, although I've heard plenty of other people complain about it... including those I've shown the game. I think alternative skins for the player models would be nice. Something with less camo and more TF flare. Over the top, easy to see, skins. maybe even some pink helmets for the engineers. __________________ "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'" Ronald Reagan

10-30-2008, 02:11 AM	#38
Lateralols mimic Altar`aG Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Rapid City, SD Class/Position: Sollymer D Gametype: Amature CTF 5v5 Affiliations: mimic Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Was fun to conc shotty you and watch you fly over my head on shutdown2 the other day euro pickups ftw! __________________ [Alligator] Today we had the chance of playing the team that plays FF 24/7. Alligator - Playing time:94.6 hrs past 2 weeks #mimic we play FF 24/7

10-30-2008, 02:29 PM	#39
kayone Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: UK Affiliations: team RIP Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I agree, some nice clips. We've popped the youtube stream of the vid on our site to try and get it as much coverage as possible. Coverage to show potential players/old TFC players what FF Gameplay has to offer, ultimately introducing more new faces to the scene!

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