An appeal to medics - Page 2

BinaryLife · 04-19-2008, 05:10 PM

I try to avoid medic lately, I'm too used to right clicking for the medpack. I think I'm going to do some rebinding so that it still works that way, but I'd have to load it up as a script otherwise my alternate fire will be different for every character.

I like the medpack dropping idea, but I still can't get used to the alt fire being that. It's not a beef with the game or anything, it's just my inability. But still, it's annoying

I go to get out my med pack and I start sending stuff flying everywhere.

Circuitous · 04-20-2008, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BinaryLife

I try to avoid medic lately, I'm too used to right clicking for the medpack. I think I'm going to do some rebinding so that it still works that way, but I'd have to load it up as a script otherwise my alternate fire will be different for every character.

Use Dr. Satan's cleanup.cfg, and then open up medic.cfg and add this

bind "mouse2" "slot1"

bind "whatevs" "+attack2"

jordan10la · 04-21-2008, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Firefox11

How so?

Say_team? I thought this made the communication not arrive to the enemy team...

=|

Yep that exactly what it does.

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Originally Posted by Circuitous

Use Dr. Satan's cleanup.cfg, and then open up medic.cfg and add this

bind "mouse2" "slot1"

bind "whatevs" "+attack2"

What exactly does said cleanup script do?

Everything · 04-21-2008, 10:39 PM

It makes it dirty.

jordan10la · 04-22-2008, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Kenny

It makes it dirty.

LMFAO no I realize that it would "cleanup" but what exactly does that mean.

Dr.Satan · 04-22-2008, 02:20 PM

This should explain everything...I tried to make it as in depth as possible:

http://www.fortress-forever.com/wiki/Cleanup_Script

Hammock · 04-22-2008, 03:39 PM

My mouse2 hasn't been used for medpack for like 6 years now. It's been for my concs ever since I started doing conc maps back in tfc.

My biggest beef with tossing those medpacks (and it really isn't a big beef at all), is that they're a bit hard to see, they don't stand out, and they're pretty tiny.

As for healing an infection, I'll do that from time to time, if the guy is standing right outside the respawn and NOT moving, omg I can't stand someone screaming for a medic but continues to run around infront of me. I'm not going to waste my time doing the tango with some dude when I can almost NEVER heal or cure with the static pack. I pretty much can't even infect with it, I had some guy running backwards in 2fort my medpack smack dab in his face and it still wouldn't infect him.

So I don't use that medpack... almost ever, it sucked in tfc for usage, and no offense but the user friendlyness of it in FF is somewhat lacking still.

But I love tossing those medpacks, I use them a lot (when I remember I have people running O with me).

myersjr · 04-22-2008, 03:54 PM

I have a question that i dont think anyone has asked. How long do the medpacks stay visible?? You toss them and what happens?? do they stay there until someone picks them up or do they disappear after a certain amount of time??

Skanky Butterpuss · 04-22-2008, 04:59 PM

they stay on the ground for 5 seconds and disappear if they dont get used.

myersjr · 04-22-2008, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Skanky Butterpuss

they stay on the ground for 5 seconds and disappear if they dont get used.

I kinda thought that might be what happened. I have an idea, why not make them stay put until they are used?? Would that require much extra calculation on the servers part?? Or is that a mapping issue?? Im curious..

Skanky Butterpuss · 04-22-2008, 05:50 PM

the thought is that it would be overpowered. a medic could just toss packs all around the place, giving his team full health without having to actually be around.

Hammock · 04-22-2008, 05:57 PM

It would be nice if they lasted a bit longer than 5 seconds though. With 5 seconds there's no real strategy involved to laying them, you see an ally that needs a heal you toss a few out.

If they lasted say like... 15-20 seconds you could actually use strategic placings (especially in pickup/league play).

You could set it so the packs dissappear after 5 seconds if the medic dies to avoid packs laying around a lot

myersjr · 04-22-2008, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Skanky Butterpuss

the thought is that it would be overpowered. a medic could just toss packs all around the place, giving his team full health without having to actually be around.

Considering you can only place pacs according to what armor the medic has on him or her at any given time, i wouldnt consider that overpowering by any stretch..I mean you can only throw so many anyway, am i right??

Firefox11 · 04-22-2008, 08:20 PM

Medpack tossing wastes armor? I thought it used something like cells, but those recovered with time...

Not that I play medic that much so I might be wrong =S

Skanky Butterpuss · 04-22-2008, 08:44 PM

throwing medikits uses cells, which are refilled when you pick up packs off of corpses, as well as regenerated over time.

Jester · 04-22-2008, 08:53 PM

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Medkit tossing
The medic can toss medkits by clicking on the right mouse key. Each costs 10 cells, and the cells recharge over time. These will disappear 5 seconds after being thrown.

FFWiki, use it.

.50bmg · 04-22-2008, 09:02 PM

(68 / 20) I've got AIDS, you promised you'de wear a condom!

Circuitous · 04-22-2008, 10:48 PM

-20 points for the unnecessary e.

BinaryLife · 04-23-2008, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock

You could set it so the packs dissappear after 5 seconds if the medic dies to avoid packs laying around a lot

I kind of like this idea. It could be like the Demoman's pipes. When he dies they explode. Except with the medpacks they just disappear. I don't think there should be a time limit afterwards though. I think as soon as the medic dies all his packs should disappear.

Perhaps a longer time limit on the packs when he drops them while alive, like 10 or 15 seconds, but as soon as he dies, they're gone. I think that allows the medic to act as decent defense support without being over powered. Basically, if he times it right he can prepare for an incomming attack, but he's got to stay alive or his help vanishes. No reminent health packs, etc.

jordan10la · 04-24-2008, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by .50bmg

(68 / 20) I've got AIDS, you promised you'de wear a condom!

Hahaha yeah I've seen you use that in game. As for the longevity of the medpacks I think it's fine.

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Skanky Butterpuss Beware the Hammer D&A Member Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Class/Position: Sabotaging your shit. Affiliations: :}\|, mimic, /KBN/ Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	the thought is that it would be overpowered. a medic could just toss packs all around the place, giving his team full health without having to actually be around. __________________ Support FF: Etzell: Skanky Etzell: The Wings are fucking fantastic Etzell: They really are Etzell: But even SAYING that makes me want to vomit

04-22-2008, 08:44 PM	#35
Skanky Butterpuss Beware the Hammer D&A Member Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Class/Position: Sabotaging your shit. Affiliations: :}\|, mimic, /KBN/ Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	throwing medikits uses cells, which are refilled when you pick up packs off of corpses, as well as regenerated over time. __________________ Support FF: Etzell: Skanky Etzell: The Wings are fucking fantastic Etzell: They really are Etzell: But even SAYING that makes me want to vomit

04-22-2008, 10:48 PM	#38
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04-19-2008, 05:10 PM	#21
BinaryLife Posts: 1 bajillion D&A Member Wiki Team Join Date: Mar 2007 Gametype: CTF Posts Rated Helpful 5 Times	I try to avoid medic lately, I'm too used to right clicking for the medpack. I think I'm going to do some rebinding so that it still works that way, but I'd have to load it up as a script otherwise my alternate fire will be different for every character. I like the medpack dropping idea, but I still can't get used to the alt fire being that. It's not a beef with the game or anything, it's just my inability. But still, it's annoying I go to get out my med pack and I start sending stuff flying everywhere.

04-21-2008, 10:39 PM	#24
Everything This is still alive? Wiki Team Beta Tester Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Naples, FL Posts Rated Helpful 3 Times	It makes it dirty.

04-22-2008, 03:39 PM	#27
Hammock D&A Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 13 Times	My mouse2 hasn't been used for medpack for like 6 years now. It's been for my concs ever since I started doing conc maps back in tfc. My biggest beef with tossing those medpacks (and it really isn't a big beef at all), is that they're a bit hard to see, they don't stand out, and they're pretty tiny. As for healing an infection, I'll do that from time to time, if the guy is standing right outside the respawn and NOT moving, omg I can't stand someone screaming for a medic but continues to run around infront of me. I'm not going to waste my time doing the tango with some dude when I can almost NEVER heal or cure with the static pack. I pretty much can't even infect with it, I had some guy running backwards in 2fort my medpack smack dab in his face and it still wouldn't infect him. So I don't use that medpack... almost ever, it sucked in tfc for usage, and no offense but the user friendlyness of it in FF is somewhat lacking still. But I love tossing those medpacks, I use them a lot (when I remember I have people running O with me).

04-22-2008, 03:54 PM	#28
myersjr Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I have a question that i dont think anyone has asked. How long do the medpacks stay visible?? You toss them and what happens?? do they stay there until someone picks them up or do they disappear after a certain amount of time??

04-22-2008, 05:57 PM	#32
Hammock D&A Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 13 Times	It would be nice if they lasted a bit longer than 5 seconds though. With 5 seconds there's no real strategy involved to laying them, you see an ally that needs a heal you toss a few out. If they lasted say like... 15-20 seconds you could actually use strategic placings (especially in pickup/league play). You could set it so the packs dissappear after 5 seconds if the medic dies to avoid packs laying around a lot

04-22-2008, 08:20 PM	#34
Firefox11 Join Date: Dec 2007 Class/Position: O&D: Pyro, Sniper Gametype: AvD Affiliations: FF.AvD [FF AvD/ID guild] Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Medpack tossing wastes armor? I thought it used something like cells, but those recovered with time... Not that I play medic that much so I might be wrong =S

04-22-2008, 09:02 PM	#37
.50bmg mine is bigger Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Somewhere in bum-fuk Oklahoma Class/Position: low class (freaky) / girl on top Gametype: slap and tickle Affiliations: :e0: leadership, founder of {FYC} Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	(68 / 20) I've got AIDS, you promised you'de wear a condom!

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