Devs: teh plan - Page 2

Hawk Eye · 12-05-2007, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by mervaka

thats why the traditional -1 kills never bothered anyone? i dont see a problem with punishing suicide.

Thats when you can have the frag counter be only a frag counter, but the fortress points will reflect the kamikazes.

GhostBuster · 12-05-2007, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawk Eye

Thats when you can have the frag counter be only a frag counter, but the fortress points will reflect the kamikazes.

Exact, keep the -1 on frags but not the -100, to resemble the real effort of the player

greenday5494 · 12-06-2007, 01:40 AM

ok, when can we have 2fort?

a082 · 12-06-2007, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by greenday5494

ok, when can we have 2fort?

the same with you, many people want an official high quality 2fort.
waiting for it.

shadow · 12-06-2007, 03:09 AM

i reiterate,

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Originally Posted by shadow

so is 2fort not being done at all?
has there been progress?

i was done with mapping for this mod, but if you guys need someone to work on it, i could probably finish it up for you.

pF · 12-06-2007, 03:50 AM

Hey shadow, I guess none of the people in the dev team have seen your question yet - the last i heard was that all the mappers were afraid of touching a map as popular as 2fort.. not sure how much truth there is to that, but there it is.

So if you can bring us 2fort goodness, please by all means do!

(also, why have you stopped mapping for FF? that "other" fortress game?)

shadow · 12-06-2007, 05:11 AM

Actually I've been messing around with the Crysis editor, tons of fun.
Super Mario Galaxy and final exams also siphon off precious time.

I wouldn't touch TF2, its just that mapping for FF just takes alot of time, more than I'm willing to invest unless the work is crucial to the sucess of the mod (such as 2fort) or until the community grows a bit.

I have a half-done map which is roughed out and just about ready for gameplay testing, but I may never get around to finishing it.

GhostBuster · 12-06-2007, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by shadow

Actually I've been messing around with the Crysis editor, tons of fun.
Super Mario Galaxy and final exams also siphon off precious time.

I wouldn't touch TF2, its just that mapping for FF just takes alot of time, more than I'm willing to invest unless the work is crucial to the sucess of the mod (such as 2fort) or until the community grows a bit.

I have a half-done map which is roughed out and just about ready for gameplay testing, but I may never get around to finishing it.

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Originally Posted by GhostBuster

* The users that are (decent) mappers and lua coders = precious users, ask em to join your team for helping you guys with the map creation process, this will certainly save lots of hours of mapping for u devs and will encourage the users to keep mapping, plus the releases of official maps would come out faster and the polishing of maps like epicenter and others. Ofc maybe the map leader can supervise them and stuff but still they are going to be really helpfull

=

you (shadow)

GeoKill-----> · 12-06-2007, 07:31 AM

I Support Shadow on this

s0undch4s3r · 12-06-2007, 09:41 AM

SHADOW + FF_2fort = WIN!!

=AS= Pt · 12-06-2007, 01:20 PM

By all means Shadow GO....

2Fort map will bring people to the mode ... i believe.

We need more people like you. Dev team, put the eyes on it.

a082 · 12-06-2007, 03:00 PM

2fort can bring many TFC player to FF.

Adamido · 12-06-2007, 03:13 PM

Please make 2fort awesome :-p And eye-candy!!

GhostBuster · 12-06-2007, 04:54 PM

Still no anwser..

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Originally Posted by GhostBuster

This beein said, now there is only one thing to know, is there are a dev crew around here to make this plan? cos i have no doubt right now there IS a community of non-devs players willing to help... but if devs are not around, then lets just give up on this now.

thiz · 12-06-2007, 05:21 PM

I can't see an official 2fort saving the mod really.. (and do people not like blis' version?, I do.) It's a start though, something happening at least.. and get rid of the place holder, that's that first map people try out on a LAN.

Obviously the devs might be a bit fed up with the mod, lot's of effort and little appreciation so far. The server admins are generally poor too, far too many servers with badly implemented rules, sniper limits and ff_hunted in rotation, lack of custom maps. Those admins that get a semi every time they get to mention 'clanstyle' or kick half the server for not adhering to the rules they have.. yet not passwording the server because they themselves don't want to alienate new players... riiight.

I seem to be playing with the same people everyday, and I've been making an effort to help some newer players. It's amazing how there can be about 30 people playing the mod and still someone insists on team killing over and over to empty the server... never an admin in sight to sort it out. The only servers I've played on that are ran well are american, they seem to know what a public game is about and the admins actually play on their server.

Spending time to explain how a class works to someone new doesn't take long, when you give someone a bit of an explanation as to what's different in this mod from what they know previously, they generally come back.

4est · 12-06-2007, 05:36 PM

Guys... momentum is building up behind the scenes. Don't get discouraged as things are picking up.

Film at 11:00.

TurboWolf · 12-06-2007, 06:35 PM

I know how to get the concing community: Remove the goddamn wall friction for grenades! Friction is okay for the ground, but who the hell cares about sticky walls for grenades? Only the skills community does. At least make a cvar to toggle it on in skills servers (non cheat, of course)

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But that's possible with lua, and it keeps mappers their maps unstolen

BLAH BLAH BLAH!! I don't care about those silly greedy mappers! It's an unnecesary problem than can be easily solved by adding this in the game itself instead of splitting the community having some maps with sticky walls. We don't want to need LUA files attached to the map to let soldiers shoot, now do we?
Add quad+invul: Because we want to beat concmaps as soldiers.
Add an anticonc suit: Just like the quad

4est · 12-06-2007, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TurboWolf

I know how to get the concing community: Remove the goddamn wall friction for grenades! Friction is okay for the ground, but who the hell cares about sticky walls for grenades? Only the skills community does. At least make a cvar to toggle it on in skills servers (non cheat, of course)
BLAH BLAH BLAH!!

Have you played 1.11?

Bakez · 12-06-2007, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 4est

Have you played 1.11?

Concs still don't roll like they did in TFC.

Dr.Satan · 12-06-2007, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Bakez

Concs still don't roll like they did in TFC.

yeah but it's not that much different...I actually conc better with the FF concs for some reason.

EDIT: although I totally agree that before 1.11 it was horrible.

12-06-2007, 07:31 AM	#29
GeoKill-----> Community Member Server Owner Beta Tester Forum Moderator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hawthorne, California Class/Position: Soldier/Spy/Scout Gametype: AvD Affiliations: :e0:Eternal Order Leader Posts Rated Helpful 12 Times	I Support Shadow on this __________________ Fortress-Forever Guides All Your Mapping Needs :e0: Will live on Forever Support FF:

12-06-2007, 05:36 PM	#36
4est Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: OK Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Guys... momentum is building up behind the scenes. Don't get discouraged as things are picking up. Film at 11:00. __________________ Welcome to ZOMBOCOM! Support FF:

12-06-2007, 01:40 AM	#23
greenday5494 Holy shit, thats kerrigan! D&A Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Class/Position: D, whatever the team needs, usually engy Gametype: AvD Affiliations: None Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	ok, when can we have 2fort?

12-06-2007, 03:50 AM	#26
pF no war but class war Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: big bad berlin Class/Position: Soldier / Scout Gametype: ctf Affiliations: [w~k!] Posts Rated Helpful 3 Times	Hey shadow, I guess none of the people in the dev team have seen your question yet - the last i heard was that all the mappers were afraid of touching a map as popular as 2fort.. not sure how much truth there is to that, but there it is. So if you can bring us 2fort goodness, please by all means do! (also, why have you stopped mapping for FF? that "other" fortress game?)

12-06-2007, 05:11 AM	#27
shadow Retired FF Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Actually I've been messing around with the Crysis editor, tons of fun. Super Mario Galaxy and final exams also siphon off precious time. I wouldn't touch TF2, its just that mapping for FF just takes alot of time, more than I'm willing to invest unless the work is crucial to the sucess of the mod (such as 2fort) or until the community grows a bit. I have a half-done map which is roughed out and just about ready for gameplay testing, but I may never get around to finishing it.

12-06-2007, 09:41 AM	#30
s0undch4s3r The guy you love to hate. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Under your bed Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	SHADOW + FF_2fort = WIN!!

12-06-2007, 01:20 PM	#31
=AS= Pt Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	By all means Shadow GO.... 2Fort map will bring people to the mode ... i believe. We need more people like you. Dev team, put the eyes on it.

12-06-2007, 03:00 PM	#32
a082 Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	2fort can bring many TFC player to FF.

12-06-2007, 03:13 PM	#33
Adamido Its over nine thousands!!! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Poland Class/Position: midmap pyro / o spy Gametype: AvD Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Please make 2fort awesome :-p And eye-candy!!

12-06-2007, 05:21 PM	#35
thiz Tealeaf Beta Tester Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Scotland Affiliations: fo! Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	I can't see an official 2fort saving the mod really.. (and do people not like blis' version?, I do.) It's a start though, something happening at least.. and get rid of the place holder, that's that first map people try out on a LAN. Obviously the devs might be a bit fed up with the mod, lot's of effort and little appreciation so far. The server admins are generally poor too, far too many servers with badly implemented rules, sniper limits and ff_hunted in rotation, lack of custom maps. Those admins that get a semi every time they get to mention 'clanstyle' or kick half the server for not adhering to the rules they have.. yet not passwording the server because they themselves don't want to alienate new players... riiight. I seem to be playing with the same people everyday, and I've been making an effort to help some newer players. It's amazing how there can be about 30 people playing the mod and still someone insists on team killing over and over to empty the server... never an admin in sight to sort it out. The only servers I've played on that are ran well are american, they seem to know what a public game is about and the admins actually play on their server. Spending time to explain how a class works to someone new doesn't take long, when you give someone a bit of an explanation as to what's different in this mod from what they know previously, they generally come back.

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