Another TF2 Review - Page 2

Nezumi · 04-11-2007, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mervaka

bear in mind the base speeds have increased, so the bhoppers haven't slowed down technically. they just dont get the upper hand as such. anyone who thinks that is gay is just an elitist fuckwit.

And that's why the devs are bumping the cap up from 108%?

No, that's not why.

Anyway the point is Merv's statement is totally BS and tu needs to learn how to read (i.e. 108% feels way faster than 62% less than TFC)

**mervaka** · 04-11-2007, 04:04 PM

okay so maybe the bhop has slowed down, but base speeds are still waaay faster. i dont know the exact figures for the base speeds offhand so i can't back that up.

tu! · 04-11-2007, 05:07 PM

leave the base speeds alone and let newbs learn to bhop. every game has advanced shit you learn if you get into the game. sane thing here.

**mervaka** · 04-11-2007, 05:15 PM

yeah but then again your opinion is without any sort of compromise.

Johnny Mullet · 04-12-2007, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbo

Watch this *new* TF2 trailer.

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Short Team Fortress 2-video from 1999

groovyf · 04-12-2007, 09:14 AM

Cross platform info:

http://uk.pc.ign.com/articles/779/779677p1.html

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The Xbox 360 version's network code is apparently so far along that PC and Xbox 360s were actually playing together online during a LAN session. Whether or not this function will be supported when the Orange and Black Boxes release around September remains to be seen, but Valve is ready either way.

The PS3 version is being done by EA over in the UK. Chances are the PS3 version will only play other PS3s. There's zero chance of them talking to 360s.

What are the player server limits?

Robin Walker: For PC we're still thinking about 24, but we're still messing with it. The Xbox is definitely going to be 16

Agret · 04-12-2007, 02:52 PM

24 eh, what happened to 32 :P

Everything · 04-12-2007, 02:54 PM

The other 12 beta slots for TF2, left and went to FF

Dospac · 04-17-2007, 08:30 PM

Heh.

The class move speeds are currently slightly over the TFC values. It isn't major.

04-22-2007, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mervaka

okay so maybe the bhop has slowed down, but base speeds are still waaay faster. i dont know the exact figures for the base speeds offhand so i can't back that up.

Right but there are huge differences in gameplay if you increase the base speed vs increasing the bhop cap...

n3m · 05-08-2007, 02:04 PM

I understand that with skimming and heightened base speeds FF may seem as fast etc. but seriously 108% bhop cap makes me cry.

SomeOldGuy · 05-08-2007, 05:15 PM

The 108% cap was one of the values being tested. It is still under constant review during the beta testing and being modified and tested on a semi-regular basis until the "sweet spot" is reached. Ultimately, it will end up to be on release a value that meets the concensus of the dev team as to what they feel is the optimum balance for gameplay.

PsYcNeT · 05-08-2007, 05:35 PM

Hell, the value gets changed every week or two, 108 was certainly not set in stone

mistermojo · 05-08-2007, 08:19 PM

pretty much any value feels slow to me after playing quake or warsow

Circuitous · 05-08-2007, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by n3m

I understand that with skimming and heightened base speeds FF may seem as fast etc. but seriously 108% bhop cap makes me cry.

It's 115% right now, but something you need to consider is that's not THE cap. You can exceed it, and it'll bring you back down when you do, nice and steady. 115 feels pretty fast, just short of TFC I'd say.

**Bully** · 05-08-2007, 11:34 PM

http://www.computerandvideogames.com...63472&site=pcg

Leandros · 05-09-2007, 01:57 AM

Scout has SSG

05-09-2007, 04:21 PM

Im okay at all classes but i think im above average with solly and im TRYING to be a better scout but i cant bhop =(.
Concing is good except when im not in the mood i miss em all.
Like Pyro D on dustbowl running into the attackers area and flaming everything ahahaha.
Medic D! =P whats better than a dude with decent speed and a super shotty plus 4 nades?
Spy is fun to pwn that sniper that u really hate.
Scout crowbar kills are awesome.

I think all classes are fun to play in their own way.

Leandros · 05-09-2007, 04:34 PM

Hey, that's great.

Mangetsu · 05-09-2007, 04:47 PM

And Pyro´s mask sucks, it looks very goofy to me

04-11-2007, 04:04 PM	#22
mervaka A Very Sound Guy! Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: May 2005 Location: UK Posts Rated Helpful 15 Times	okay so maybe the bhop has slowed down, but base speeds are still waaay faster. i dont know the exact figures for the base speeds offhand so i can't back that up. __________________ Support FF:

04-11-2007, 05:15 PM	#24
mervaka A Very Sound Guy! Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: May 2005 Location: UK Posts Rated Helpful 15 Times	yeah but then again your opinion is without any sort of compromise. __________________ Support FF:

04-12-2007, 02:54 PM	#28
Everything This is still alive? Wiki Team Beta Tester Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Naples, FL Posts Rated Helpful 3 Times	The other 12 beta slots for TF2, left and went to FF __________________ Steam Profile

05-08-2007, 11:34 PM	#36
Bully Beta Tester Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Yorkshire, England Class/Position: Spectating Gametype: British Bulldogs Affiliations: ®™ ^ Posts Rated Helpful 67 Times	http://www.computerandvideogames.com...63472&site=pcg __________________ ®™ Support FF:

04-11-2007, 05:07 PM	#23
tu! Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	leave the base speeds alone and let newbs learn to bhop. every game has advanced shit you learn if you get into the game. sane thing here.

04-12-2007, 02:52 PM	#27
Agret Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	24 eh, what happened to 32 :P

04-17-2007, 08:30 PM	#29
Dospac Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Heh. The class move speeds are currently slightly over the TFC values. It isn't major.

05-08-2007, 02:04 PM	#31
n3m BT King ^^ Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Mulch_Trench Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I understand that with skimming and heightened base speeds FF may seem as fast etc. but seriously 108% bhop cap makes me cry.

05-08-2007, 05:15 PM	#32
SomeOldGuy older than dirt Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: just east of the jug handle Posts Rated Helpful 9 Times	The 108% cap was one of the values being tested. It is still under constant review during the beta testing and being modified and tested on a semi-regular basis until the "sweet spot" is reached. Ultimately, it will end up to be on release a value that meets the concensus of the dev team as to what they feel is the optimum balance for gameplay.

05-08-2007, 05:35 PM	#33
PsYcNeT Black Chancellor Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Calgary, Alberta eh? Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Hell, the value gets changed every week or two, 108 was certainly not set in stone

05-08-2007, 08:19 PM	#34
mistermojo the pumps dont work Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	pretty much any value feels slow to me after playing quake or warsow

05-09-2007, 01:57 AM	#37
Leandros Cool Cat Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Dutchelandae Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Scout has SSG

05-09-2007, 04:21 PM	#38
Valheru Guest Posts Rated Helpful 7 Times	Im okay at all classes but i think im above average with solly and im TRYING to be a better scout but i cant bhop =(. Concing is good except when im not in the mood i miss em all. Like Pyro D on dustbowl running into the attackers area and flaming everything ahahaha. Medic D! =P whats better than a dude with decent speed and a super shotty plus 4 nades? Spy is fun to pwn that sniper that u really hate. Scout crowbar kills are awesome. I think all classes are fun to play in their own way.

05-09-2007, 04:34 PM	#39
Leandros Cool Cat Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Dutchelandae Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Hey, that's great.

05-09-2007, 04:47 PM	#40
Mangetsu Dangerous Pyromaniac Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	And Pyro´s mask sucks, it looks very goofy to me

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