Before and After: Old and new skins of TFC

[Vicious]

Originally Posted by Agent_W

The Spy:

Old: BAD. I thought it was just too plain looking, but I give it props for the ninja look to it.
New: GOOD. Definitely what you would expect a spy to look like.

THAT is what I would expect a spy to look like.

[v3rtigo]

The old models look like shit, but their animations are much easier to read than the new ones. This is especially true for snipers, headshots were so much easier on the old models. I prefer the newer models, but in heated action, I prefer the old, because they give me much more information about their intentions.

[myersjr]

The newer TFC models, if you can actually call them that by now, are cooler than the old ones..and i hate the medic model in FF. Love the gameplay, hate the model..now the medpac..awesome..and throwing down medpacs for your team..simply too cool..

[greenday5494]

Originally Posted by Agent_W

Just thought I'd share my opinions and see where it goes from here.

The Scout:

Old: BAD. What the hell? He looks like a skinny railroad worker. He also strikes a resemblance to that Ernest guy. Eww.
New: GOOD. He has the better appearance of a professional scout.

The Sniper:

Old: Undecided. Kinda plain but I liked his hat style and shadow face.
New: GOOD. He has the camo-like cloak that many military snipers use for hiding in terrain.

The Soldier:

Old: GOOD. He just has that commando look that kinda kicks ass.
New: GOOD. The helmet is a big plus, along with the camo facepaint as well, and his camo has that tiger stripe pattern.

The Spy:

Old: BAD. I thought it was just too plain looking, but I give it props for the ninja look to it.
New: GOOD. Definitely what you would expect a spy to look like.

The Pyro:

Old: Undecided. The uniform pattern looks sorta odd, but he does have that "psycho" mouth.
New: GOOD. The face shield and gas mask apparatus is a NICE fix.

The Medic:

Old: Undecided. The uniform is classic-looking to the class but still looks pretty damn plain.
New: GOOD. It actually makes him look more like the combat medic he IS, plus, his camo is white/black.

The Demoman:

Old: GOOD. I liked the classic look of the demoman, and he gets to have a nice cigarette!
New: GOOD. Albeit a more contemporary look, he has that cool SWAT bomb squad guy look to him.

The Engineer:

Old: GOOD. Even though his uniform looks a little "rugged", he has that bad ass look.
New: GOOD. Not much change to the new versus the old, except that it looks a lot more refined.

The HW Guy:

Old: BAD. The helmet really looks goofy, and his wrinkled face shows him to be an old fart.
New: GOOD. BAD ASS. He's a lot more muscular and has a better build to handle that AC.

The Scout:
Old: GOOD. Looks like a fast freak thing. And i love his eye on his shirt
New: Undecided. I really love the headset he has on, but it looks like he's wearing PJ's
The Sniper:
Old: A bit undecided. I like his hat, but he just looks like a dude
New: GOOD VERY GOOD. i like his camo look and the leaves and bird poo on his face
The Solly:
Old: GOOD, because of the badass beret but BAD because of the way he hold the RPG
New: GOOD. He was very cool anims and his helmet backpack is badass
The Spy:
Old: GOOD. i like the ninja look, and it's plain cuz he's a spy!
New: AWESOME. big improvement. looks like a Splinter Cell, and his knife on his back is badass
The Pyro:
Old: BAD. he looks like a fucking arab
New: GOOD. Although his pants are a bit PJ-like, i really like his mask
The Medic:
Old: GOOD. i like his little surgery mask getup. But his anims scare me
New: GOOD. I like his little Chinese hat, and his mask is badass
The Demoman:
Old: GOOD. His ciggie is badass, and he looks like a person who is been messing with explosivs and his messed up in the head.
New: BAD. His lips are very girly and pink. but his armor is okay, i guess, but it looks weird. Old wins the demoman
The engy:
Old: Terrible. He looks like some fucked up polygon gone bad
New: GOOD. i like his tan and his badass cigar.
The Civvie:
(I know there's no difference, here's the TFC and FF comparison)
TFC: Looks like a dude who is scared and needs protecting. His expression is cool too
FF: fucking Churchill once he gets his tommygun and gets rid of the unagi power, win, without tommygun and with unagi power, fail big time.

EDIT: FUCK! I forget the fatty!
HW:
Old: GOOD. He looks like he has lots of armor and and he has a little rope helping him carry his gun. Plus, he's fat!
New: Meh. He looks like a rambo gone bad. But, it looks like a dude like that SHOULD be carrying a gun. in the middle i guess. Oh, and his spin-up animations is pure win.


Oh, and the New models also have a +1 because their mouths move when people talk on mics!

[tu!]

old awesome
new are crap

[KubeDawg]

Originally Posted by Vicious

THAT is what I would expect a spy to look like.

THAT WOULD BE AN AWESOME SPY MODEL! Instead of cloaking, he just uses his mojo! Instead of a knife, it's a JUDO CHOP!

[reaper18]

Originally Posted by tu!

old awesome
new are crap

thank you for your constructive elaboration tu!

[Circuitous]

Yeah 'cuz we really need another long, elaborate pro-con list.

[Paft]

I wore this debate out 3 years ago here! I apologize for that.

[SmellyCat]

Oh, that was you? I think I remember that thread, that is if was unneccesarily long.

[Paft]

ha. I can't find it.

[Sh4x]

old

[myersjr]

Originally Posted by KubeDawg

THAT WOULD BE AN AWESOME SPY MODEL! Instead of cloaking, he just uses his mojo! Instead of a knife, it's a JUDO CHOP!

If he's using his mojo, i dont think its a chop he goin to be using??

[Agent_W]

Originally Posted by KubeDawg

THAT WOULD BE AN AWESOME SPY MODEL! Instead of cloaking, he just uses his mojo! Instead of a knife, it's a JUDO CHOP!

You know what, man? In that movie, whenver Austin does a JUDO CHOP, it seems to one-shot anyone he hits on the neck? It's like they just drop out cold!

[Agent_W]

Hey GreenDay, nice work man! And to everyone else, I appreciate your commentary all the same!

I have to say that I really do agree. But for the record...I have to say that the worst model of all the OLD and NEW is absolutely the old Scout skin. The reason being is because of the whole Ernest thing.

Speaking for the spy, I know that the old timey TF skin(or sprite, hahaha ) had the spy dressed in a nice tuxedo and resembled much like James Bond. But the spy's overall look evolved to where he's more of a combat, battlefield spy than an undercover operative.

And if we get that Austin Powers model on the spy, imagine all of the chicks flocking over to this game lol.

My memory was rusty on model anims, and that's really why I didn't have an opinion on it. I do believe the old ones had better anims across the board, just because I was familiar with the old skins more.

[greenday5494]

w00t! someone agrees wit me

[Arvingorn]

I'm pretty sure that the old HW had scars; not wrinkles.

[jordan10la]

Well I bought tfc in like February so I never saw the old models. How can I use them instead? Also is there anywhere that has big pictures of the old models compared to the way they look now?

EDIT: OK I found out how (tfc_newmodels 0) but I still cant get a good look.

[Paft]

tfc_newmodels 0. console command. It's within the options somewhere. Of the top of my head options>multiplayer>advance.

This page has comparisons images (click for larger).

Edit: I took way to long to finsih the post.

[jordan10la]

Originally Posted by Paft

tfc_newmodels 0. console command. It's within the options somewhere. Of the top of my head options>multiplayer>advance.

This page has comparisons images (click for larger).

Edit: I took way to long to finsih the post.

Cool thanks for the site. Cool to see for comparison. Was the FF sniper based after the old one then?