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this is definitely change that my can believe in!
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There ya go kiddo, all better.
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I do believe that Scuzzy. I also remember a complaint about how people who do not contribute are to be fined in the same fashion as a car. Their fine would no doubt contribute. But you are now complaining that without that there it is unfair. I don't like saying it but Jon Stewart was right. You, in this instance remind me of republicans as a whole complaining that various details are not fair and then when they are given what they want, they complain about that too. They wanted transparency and received, but then it was a trap as I recall a ploy to.... give them exactly what they asked for. This is was my respect for republicans has drifted down the drains. They are merely fighting for the sake of fighting. What's more frustrating is that you have to be intelligent to do what they are doing. These morally bankrupt or disenfranchised politicians are not helping America. (that comment however also applies to democrats who I believe are trying, and like more than the republicans, but are still behaving terribly and appear to me equally bankrupt in morals) |
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Wrong. They know that the American people overwhelmingly want reform but not in the changes made by this legislation. The republicans have been extremely clear about what items they want for reform, do you know what they are? Or is your liberal press not reporting that? Are you just sucking up the tired old "they're just arguing to argue" or are you comparing what they want for reforms with what the dems are trying to shove down your throat? Scuzzy
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Scuzzy, there are many distractions. Your analogy with the house is somewhat different than a person with an existing medical condition. See, if your house in on fire, you wont get booted from your existing insurance provider. If you did, somehow, and somehow found new insurance during this process, that policy would not prevent you from claiming your house for over a year.
Medical insurance frequently prevents people from claiming existing conditions because, very simply, it's expensive and they don't want to pay it. This process while it keeps people alive, isn't very humane. Nor is walking past other civilians in need of help and unable to help themselves. More importantly, the government isn't forcing everything they have put it to a vote based on the people put in place by our own American citizens, the same people who put Bush into office if I recall that whole fiasco revolved around the public not being properly represented. Moreover, the military gets government run health care. Do they get very good health care? Do you feel that the military health care is awful? Be careful here, of course better is always better, and you can't get good enough care for people willing to lay down their lives for the safety of their country. But the are they receive is widely regarded as being amazing. So, why is it that that with an existing government run health care plan that is considered amazing that there is so little faith in what's going on? I do understand that the vote already processed and that the bill passed before I wrote this. This wasn't intended to gloat by any means. But I felt our conversation should conclude. While it may not impact the country, I do enjoy debating things with you. Sometimes it may be frustrating, but two people disagreeing often is. I do respect you and you no doubt know that. I think that's why I care so much about understanding this discussion better. |
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Binary, I wouldn't waste your time. First Scuzzy bitches about how Obama hasn't changed anything, as soon as he does, Scuzzy bitches about that. It's a never-ending circle of whining.
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Etzell, you're being a whiny crybaby bitch. If you don't want to debate, shut the fuck up kiddo. Scuzzy
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The title of this thread and every other "OMG DEMS WON MY VAGINA HURTS" thread you've posted in the past 4 months makes it painfully obvious that you don't want to debate.
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No, Scuzzy. The reason I don't "engage" you in "debate" anymore is because doing so is useless. You've proven time and time again that you're not interested in debate, as much as you are pointless party bashing. Beating your head against a wall is only fun for so long. That explains my silence on the issue. I'd imagine the IP ban you levied on uber explains his silence on the issue.
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Since you brought up Bush, I feel the need to question something. There was a time when Bush won his second term. The majority of the country's popular vote was in favor of Al Gore. But Bush won anyway. Democrats were naturally appalled by this and did not like it very much. The republicans on the other hand were ready to defend it drastically. They chastised the dems for not supporting their president. They hounded them consistently for their displays of disagreement. I honestly don't see how you can have such a short memory. It seems to fade so quickly from your mind. Of course at least the democrats had the popular vote on their side. Just as they do now. The republicans seem to not be able to handle the fact that the majority of this country disagrees with them. They have no popular vote here. But they say they do, as you no doubt will very shortly. They insist the bill says and does things that it does not say and do. I saw a whole speech about how awful it was the the bill favored government sponsored abortions. It does no such thing. The comment was dishonest. So is the republican party. I would rather them propose honest, sincere oppositions to the bill than make up lies and propaganda to get their way. |
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If the vast majority wants this bill we would not have had all the dirty politics and party threats internal to the DNC. It's going to ba a couple of election before I can think about voting democrat again.
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What do you believe will happen to the cost of insurance now that they must cover EVERYONE who comes to their door? The people that are very sick, no matter what their condition, no matter that they never paid for medical insurance in the past. Everyone. So, your an insurance company... what will you do: Will you raise premium rates to offset those costs, or lower them? Will you cut the percentage of coverage for all services, or increase them? Will you raise deductables or lower them? Tell me again how you think this bill is going to make insurance affordable for all Americans.. No rhetoric, give me your honest logical opinion on what you think insurance companies will have to do to cover these costs. Scuzzy
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