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Old 04-18-2008, 07:58 AM   #21
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if you havent done mushrooms are acid before i highly recommend trying them youd be amazed by how much you discover yourself by taking such medicine

dont tell yourself your a loser and nothings ever gonna happen for you all that is is and excuse for you not to put in the effort to go out there and do something.

people are usually anti social because they are afraid they wont be accepted and that keeps them from saying things just sit there all awkward but who gives a fuck man you live life and then you die theres no point in making your own short time painful you were born with the same thing everyone else was the same ability to socialize and succeed so get the fuck out thar
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i was kinda the same way you were. i just started working out, and running, and i lost 20 pounds, and im only 13. espeically this week i've been feeling very shitty. But, when i hung out with my friend, i just felt so much better. i really did. i think im still a fat fuck (160, down from 180 pounds), and i keep working on it. and i feel like total shit somedays too. get outside. go hang out with some people. and when the day's over, it feel alot more "rewarding" when you get on the computer, like a relaxation. computer is for relaxation, not life.

let me ask a question though. Are women really attracted to sensitive guys? Cause i'm pretty sensitive, and im no means a tough guy. i dont want to learn how to fight, or get into a fight. Are women just like "you fucking pussy" like some guys are, or are they attracited to you.




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let me ask a question though. Are women really attracted to sensitive guys? Cause i'm pretty sensitive, and im no means a tough guy. i dont want to learn how to fight, or get into a fight. Are women just like "you fucking pussy" like some guys are, or are they attracited to you.
No, they're not. Women being attracted to sensitive guys is a filthy lie.

The thing that attracts women varies by each individual woman, and it can be everything from your job (lust for power - this is how 60 year old senators have 20 year old mistresses), your body, and things as random as your scent or what you happen to be wearing.

All of that "be yourself" stuff... that's not really bullshit. But the most important thing is confidence. Confidence in yourself is the most attractive thing anyone can have about themselves.

Unless your a fatty. Then you're pretty much fucked.
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Old 04-18-2008, 11:07 AM   #24
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Women usually are attracted to a man that's in control and confident, men that don't piss their pants when looking straight into a woman's eye for a second. Sensitivity is fine, as long as you don't go overboard with your emotions as being nice is different from being submissive. Some women like shy men, but usually only when that shyness is backed up by at least some confidence in theirselves. Basically, you do not need to be the ultra alpha male of a group of 100+ friends as long as you believe in yourself, though that's the hardest part.

So then how you do start believing in yourself? By proving yourself wrong, wrong that you couldn't do this or that. There will always be steps that will take a few tries, but if you seriously want to accomplish something, then you need to shape up and go for it. Failure is the greatest teacher so try to learn from every situation, no matter how small or seemingly unimportant. Do not, however, keep it all inside. If you feel emotional, then take some time for yourself. Music might help, as long as it's not depressing. Aggressive genres usually do well during these times so you might want to give In Flames and the likes a try

How you feel is nothing more than the water entrance on 2fort, a spiral. You are choosing to go down, rather than up but the problem is that it's mostly unconsious. That, however, also makes it easier to escape from: break the pattern. The moment you break an unconscious pattern, your mind will be re-activated and awake from it's usualy numb state.

Because you are entering 'new territory', you will feel either scared or excited. If it's the first, then simply look at your hand and make a fist. Open your hand again and understand that was basically all it took to actually do something. It's stupid, but your mind falls for it. As long as you don't give in to negative thoughts, it's all dandy. The moment you feel like going the next step then try to not hesitate, just move your leg, hand or mouth and your mind will follow. You are scared because you feel powerless, but you have far more 'power' than you yourself could have ever hoped for, you just need to use it. Stop imagining and start doing. Once you felt the feeling that you accomplished something, don't forget it.


Like others have said, go see people. You don't even have to talk to them, just watch them do their daily stuff. Walk around and try not to think of anything, just look at the world as it is. Social interaction is an essential part of our lives and it has quite the impact on our mental health. From the core, people want to be a part of something and feel accepted and if that doesn't seem to be happening, the body will create a negative feeling so you'll be 'motivated' to do something about it and make it happy again.

Your consciousness, however, doesn't really get where the feeling is comming from and starts blaming it on either you or the outside world. You need to determine for yourself which one. If you are feeling bad because you are sitting in front of your keyboard then it's you, which means you can do something about it. You don't have to go do exciting stuff, just take a walk, preferably where you'll see people and take a breather. Take care of your mind by giving it rest when it needs it, it will reward you plentyful.

If you feel you aren't to blame for that bad feeling (somebody was being an ass to you today or something bad happened) then simply take some time for yourself doing what you would like. If you can't think of anything, than that walk mentioned earlier will do just fine.

Basically, you need to take care of yourself. You do not take care of yourself by listening to negative thoughts. You will have to get to know yourself to realise when you're being influenced by unconscious negative emotions and thoughts and then make the conscious decision to fight them, actively.

Start small, even the smallest victory will help you well on your way as long as you are willing to acknowledge your capabilities. Yes, you can do things just fine, it's just that you haven't been doing them lately that causes you to doubt yourself. If you want to try the bigger challenges, then take it easy and don't beat yourself too much. In the beginning, everything will take a few tries but as long as you truly feel that is it something you want to do, you will succeed a lot sooner than you would have thought.

Now the fun part: you are your mind. You are your consciousness and unconsciousness. It is not some kind of machine or evildoer, it is simply you making sense of the world. Knowing that it is it really not that big a deal, realise how much control you have over yourself. The only way to 'program' it is to learn it things, which you do by doing them. You can think and imagine as much as you like, but you now very well that they are but a guess and not a realistic representation of reality and that's what your 'crave-for-knowledge' part of your brain is after.

Making a decision is one thing, going through with it is another, yet it's the most imporant. Take a look at the world and realise how much influence you have on it, how much influence you have on objects, people and their thoughts. You must realise you aren't as powerless as you think you are and that the only thing that's standing in your way is your negative self. Everytime you listen to it, you will have failed and that is true failure.

Hope that helped.

Oh, and telling somebody else how 'great' their lives are in comparison to someone else's is not going to work. As long as you haven't experienced it yourself, you cannot learn from it. Telling a person their problems are not imporant enough is the same as denying their worth, which doesn't help them at all. That said, always try to keep a realistic view on your life, that's the only way to stay in the twice-coloured cloud, but in the end, the world is as you experience it.
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Old 04-18-2008, 11:16 AM   #25
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Old 04-18-2008, 03:13 PM   #26
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No, they're not. Women being attracted to sensitive guys is a filthy lie.

The thing that attracts women varies by each individual woman, and it can be everything from your job (lust for power - this is how 60 year old senators have 20 year old mistresses), your body, and things as random as your scent or what you happen to be wearing.

All of that "be yourself" stuff... that's not really bullshit. But the most important thing is confidence. Confidence in yourself is the most attractive thing anyone can have about themselves.

Unless your a fatty. Then you're pretty much fucked.
What bothers me most about that lie is that women are the ones who perpetuate it. They tell everyone all they want is a sweet, nice guy. But they NEVER go for him. I dispise this lie. When told this lie I grow angry, like the hulk... except not violent...or green....or big... ok so not like the hulk.
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The best thing I could tell you is be yourself man, yeah it was said that "being yourself will get you know where or is a lie or whatever, just be yourself. You don't want to go out being something you are not and turn out into a complete poser.

Just do what you do best man, confidence is key as was said earlier. Going to a community college isn't the worse thing you could do, its actually better for you. There are plenty of schools school out there that will help you financially, most schools off the FAFSA or Pell Grant which is federal money based on your income taxes and your parents, if you don't have any income you can just put your parents total income, once your school receives the money form the grant *you don't have to pay it back) you will get a check in the mail depending on how much you are given and how much the school takes out. Thats an option for you to get into a university. Do some research on the school you would like to go to, give them a call schedule a time to go in and meet with an admissions representative and ask questions about financial aid and what payment options there are.

As far as a car and meeting people on a daily basis or talk to people on a daily basis, it gets old really quick. I usually just commute to school and daily errands. I would start out at a grocery store or if you know someone who works ask to see if they can help and put in a good word for you where they work. I work for myself, getting paid by commission is not bad but it's not hourly so it has it's flaws. The reason I say a grocery store is because it will give you customer experience, and work experience. Hell try Wal-mart or Home Depot or LOWES home imporvement, save money and buy a car for 1600 or something, or ask your parents if they could help you out.

You'll end up meeting that right someone sooner or later in life, don't rush it, just keep this in mind, good things come to those who wait.
 


Old 04-18-2008, 09:10 PM   #28
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What bothers me most about that lie is that women are the ones who perpetuate it. They tell everyone all they want is a sweet, nice guy. But they NEVER go for him. I dispise this lie. When told this lie I grow angry, like the hulk... except not violent...or green....or big... ok so not like the hulk.
QFT...women all say they want that guy and it's fucking strait up bullshit. I watched every girl I ever wanted to get with pretty much go for the biggest asshole I knew every time. You can tell them time and time again how much of a fuck he is, you can be the chivalrous one, you can be the sensitive guy that listens and talks, but in the end they always go for the asshole...then when he turns out to be an asshole (duh) they cry about it to you.

What I've found is that you have to be the confident no bullshit guy. Don't lie or pretend to be anything your not and NEVER doubt yourself. You have to have a fuck the world and fuck you attitude and live by that. Not only do you gain self confidence but you will attract women with that.

@ greenday...just be yourself...fat, ugly, dumb, smart what the fuck ever you are just be you...you are you and you are good, NEVER forget that or let anyone convince you otherwise cause once you doubt yourself then you'll never get ahead (in life in general, with women, jobs whatever). Keep that attitude and you can have anything you fucking want no matter what. And don't fake it either...just fucking realise that people are fucks and your never going to get along with everyone. People are going to say and do shit that you would never imagine possible and then do it again.

@ the OP...I'm still trying to figure out what the fuck you are talking about...you post some sob story but never once do you explain in any detail what the fuck is supposedly wrong with you and why you feel how you do...some clarification would be nice!

But even if you don't clarify...read above and live it.
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i was kinda the same way you were. i just started working out, and running, and i lost 20 pounds, and im only 13. espeically this week i've been feeling very shitty. But, when i hung out with my friend, i just felt so much better. i really did. i think im still a fat fuck (160, down from 180 pounds), and i keep working on it. and i feel like total shit somedays too. get outside. go hang out with some people. and when the day's over, it feel alot more "rewarding" when you get on the computer, like a relaxation. computer is for relaxation, not life.

let me ask a question though. Are women really attracted to sensitive guys? Cause i'm pretty sensitive, and im no means a tough guy. i dont want to learn how to fight, or get into a fight. Are women just like "you fucking pussy" like some guys are, or are they attracited to you.




KubeDawg, seriously, a little harsh? engee, dont listen to Kube or bokko.
KubeDawg put it straight. Sympathy is what these idiots live off of. I'll be an asshole and use you as an example. When you cut off from excessive food and lack of work by eating less and working more, you change for the better. When you shut the fuck up with the whiny bullshit and go out and do something about your life, you change for the better.

Sympathy is for women and pussies. Solutions are for people who want to get over the shit going on in their life.
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then go away...why are you even commenting in it if your not going read the posts?
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Ah, but I did read them all.

Alright. I'll leave, sorry for any inconvenience.

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omfg i was just going to post that!!!!!

@Jewish Japenese gay dude (sorry if that offends you, im just joking, ill take it out if you want me to) Are you using me as a good example, or a bad one?

oh, and since i lost 20 pounds, i am seriously am one of the fastest runners i know. i can even beat my dad, and my friends. i never EVER was able to do that before. my one friend i think is like getting weirded out that im really fast now, and he always challenges me to races, bikes, foot, w/e. i always win.

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i was kinda the same way you were. i just started working out, and running, and i lost 20 pounds, and im only 13. espeically this week i've been feeling very shitty. But, when i hung out with my friend, i just felt so much better. i really did. i think im still a fat fuck (160, down from 180 pounds), and i keep working on it. and i feel like total shit somedays too. get outside. go hang out with some people. and when the day's over, it feel alot more "rewarding" when you get on the computer, like a relaxation. computer is for relaxation, not life.

let me ask a question though. Are women really attracted to sensitive guys? Cause i'm pretty sensitive, and im no means a tough guy. i dont want to learn how to fight, or get into a fight. Are women just like "you fucking pussy" like some guys are, or are they attracited to you.




KubeDawg, seriously, a little harsh? engee, dont listen to Kube or bokko.
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You won't find solace on the internet. Period. Ever. Get out, go for a walk, enjoy the fact that you do have life.

Women aren't everything. In fact, they're generally a waste of time until you find the right one...and that takes a little balls and patience. Sex, love, companionship, they're all great things, but until you're happy with yourself and ready to step away from the keyboard, you really won't be happy. It's nice to hide behind the keyboard, pretending to be a super cool, bad ass man when you're really fucked up inside. You gain the power you don't have in real life. You just have to take the power and confidence you feel here and translate it into social situations. The people here are some of the most critical people you'll meet, if you can hold your own here, you can survive out there.

Back to the women...my roommates always say

"Talking to bitches can be as uncomfortable as saying the N word in a room full of black people...lucky for us, bitches ain't a race...have some balls and talk to them like you know WTF you're doing."

Remember that...Bitches ain't a race.

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omfg i was just going to post that!!!!!

@chinese gay dude (sorry if that offends you, im just joking, ill take it out if you want me to) Are you using me as a good example, or a bad one?

oh, and since i lost 20 pounds, i am seriously am one of the fastest runners i know. i can even beat my dad, and my friends. i never EVER was able to do that before. my one friend i think is like getting weirded out that im really fast now, and he always challenges me to races, bikes, foot, w/e. i always win.
Correction: Jewish Chinese Gay Dude. And メタミュスルーサン is Japanese.
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