ff_badlands

[o_donny]

Originally Posted by stino

craggy-ness ?

I think he means that they are too soft that he would like to see more /\/\ kind of walls :P Pointy, jagged or what ever you want to call it.

Could you edit the sand texture's vmt to have some grass sprites on it. Would look awsome you know.

[o_darknight]

I like the slightly 'smoothed' look myself - Eroded away or something... Dunno.

[o_bokko]

This is looking sweet, my only complaint would be that the flagroom seems to be like in the original - a spampit. I'm not sure what needs to be changed, perhaps getting rid of the ladder and making the bottom the same level as the lower entrance would help. (I believe this was discussed in an earlier version of this map?)
(referring to this image)

[o_thenuke0]

Originally Posted by bokko

This is looking sweet, my only complaint would be that the flagroom seems to be like in the original - a spampit. I'm not sure what needs to be changed, perhaps getting rid of the ladder and making the bottom the same level as the lower entrance would help. (I believe this was discussed in an earlier version of this map?)
(referring to this image)

i think doing that will make the map too easy

[o_[wtf?]chemical burn]

Lookin' good, can't wait to IC jump into the flag pit and cause other pyro mayhem throughout the base. I like the brown sandy texture more than the elephant skin ones. I agree the cliffsides need a little more variation along the top.

[o_donny]

Originally Posted by thenuke0

i think doing that will make the map too easy

Indeed. The ladder slows down the enemy team.

Btw add the fan to the top :P It was fun to hide there

[o_beavis]

If I were you I'd still make those spaces a lot bigger and wide open. It's too crowded, also putting in dead trees and desert plants might help decorate the place up.

[o_bokko]

It's not like it's a high capping map at the moment, this relatively small change would make it too easy? Even if you grab the flag you usually don't get it anywhere because the pipes / random spam kills you before you get up the ladder. And you can't throw it anywhere useful from the pit floor. Boring as hell on offence.

[o_[wtf?]chemical burn]

When I was running a TFC server, I used -ripent to remove health/armour and greatly reduce the ammo in the two FR bags... helped balance the map somewhat. On a pub server two average skilled soldiers can lock down the FR by humping those bags.

[o_stino]

Originally Posted by Darknight

Much, much better. Can't wait for the 3d skybox.

there is one, if you think hard you will know that you won't see much of it if you are down in the canyon

Originally Posted by broodingdude

I think the lines look a little too uniform. Not random enough to be believable. But what the heck, I still love it. Some random dips and rises, maybe a rock with a different texture at some points, just to break the monotony of those lines.

I don't know... I am still impressed and I'd still play it.

i'm reskinning the textures on the wasteland rock models., some of them here en there whould do a lot !

Originally Posted by bokko

This is looking sweet, my only complaint would be that the flagroom seems to be like in the original - a spampit. I'm not sure what needs to be changed, perhaps getting rid of the ladder and making the bottom the same level as the lower entrance would help. (I believe this was discussed in an earlier version of this map?)
(referring to this image)

yeah, should fix another problem, if you jump down now (in hl2sp) you get hurt, but its the exact size like in the original :s

Originally Posted by Donny

Indeed. The ladder slows down the enemy team.

Btw add the fan to the top :P It was fun to hide there

fan is left out for the moment, i'm going to replace it with a prop, when i've found out how to create(3dsmax) and compile models

i see that the tunnel says "env_lighlow is your friend"
it looks very good.

are there going to be any places where the boundary walls are low enough for a 3d skybox to even have a big effect?

3d skybox will only have a big effect when conc jumping , (you can jump from the one canyon to the other one for the moment)(no clip there)

and no i havent used evn_lightglow only env_sprite, and the top of the pipes, ... what you see there is the sun

[o_stino]

Originally Posted by [WTF?

Chemical Burn]Lookin' good, can't wait to IC jump into the flag pit and cause other pyro mayhem throughout the base. I like the brown sandy texture more than the elephant skin ones. I agree the cliffsides need a little more variation along the top.

last screens have more variation

(sorry for duble post)

and eh gras sprites, i've had it on an earlear version, but i don't know what the line was to add it

[o_own3r]

I noticed that all the rocks in the screenshot seemed to end abrubtly at a certain height, maybe you could vary the hight a bit or add some more detail onto the top?

[o_skanky butterpuss]

Originally Posted by stino

and no i havent used evn_lightglow only env_sprite, and the top of the pipes, ... what you see there is the sun

ahh yes, upon a closer look i see that now. normally i would suggest an env_lightglow, but it looks excellent as it is

[o_stino]

Originally Posted by broodingdude

I think the lines look a little too uniform. Not random enough to be believable. But what the heck, I still love it. Some random dips and rises, maybe a rock with a different texture at some points, just to break the monotony of those lines.

I don't know... I am still impressed and I'd still play it.

I WANT MY PROPS WORKING!!!
**EDIT** my props are working, screens coming!!!

and eh, hdr is coming too!!!!!! (waiting for the sdk to be released)

here are some screens of the props: (and the brush based fan)

eh the shadows behind the props should be removed (will be done in next version) and the pipes, the light is a little to extreme

[Circuitous]

1. No comment.
2. Gah that's bright.
3. Those rocks seem a little out of place.
4. Those rocks seem really out of place.
5. Looks good except for those sand blobs.
6. No comment.
7. Flagroom looks good, but: Where's the ladder for the other ledge (on the right)? It had one, didn't it? Also, I don't think that railing on the left ledge is a good idea. And the room as a whole seems sorta dark.

[o_bokko]

Wow, nice update! Flagroom looks sweet and I look forward to playing it, at least you'll now be able to toss the flag out of the spam pit.

[Circuitous]

You will? Judging by the second-to-last shot it's still quite a drop!

[o_donny]

Awsome stuff!
Wait...


Is that a fan!
OMG IT IS!!

HELLL YEAHHHHH!!

Looks good man. Keep it up!

[o_thenuke0]

this map looks great, im looking forward for more screen shots!

[o_bokko]

In the original the flag spawned at the bottom and you had to climb the ladder before throwing it. You can now throw it as soon as you touch it.