FF Epicenter (Beta 2 DL) - Page 15

o_jonny.gecko · 08-23-2005, 10:53 PM

its not as though every single FF map won't have ladders...from what i've seen its just epicentre that doesnt use them...

so what does it really matter? shoot people on ladders on all the other maps and you'll be sweet!

Circuitous · 08-23-2005, 11:26 PM

Jaunty: Killzone does that, too.

o_donny · 11-03-2005, 01:28 AM

This is done! No one told me about that!
(plays this, FIRST thing when I wake up)

o_donny · 11-06-2005, 03:31 PM

Donnys epicenter bughunt.
This report will have lots and lots of images for your viewing pleasure. So please take your time.

first bug I noticed was in team spawn room.
When you got close enough the lamp you could see that the sprites were balls and they werent even added so that they are symmetric.
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/468...rb100021zo.jpg

After that I went outside because I also wanted to see how awsome this map was done, and I have to say it looks great! But I noticed some issues with the textures on 2 places. If you move your head, you see another texture and when you move it a bit right you see that the texture flashes to another, se there is 2 textures over eachother. Hard to spot in screenshots but they burn your eyes ingame :P
Place 1
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/368...rb100001ma.jpg
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/422...rb100017gl.jpg
Place 2
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/962...rb100120ok.jpg
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/250...rb100139ac.jpg

Then I noticed that you have physic object here. If you ask me they are bad. You can block doors and stuff with them (Though I tried to block door with it and I couldnt

)
http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/666...rb100047dp.jpg

After that I noticed decal issue near the APC just other side of the fence.
http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/646...rb100089kb.jpg

Now let's go back to that spawn room shall we;
There is that broken light there. I think you should make it not to make collisons or better idea, cover it with playerclip texture. Cause if you go on it and do things right your head pops trough the cealing like this:
http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/552...rb100036or.jpg
Also there is that big rubble there. You should cover that too with playerclip while you are at it and something that blocks the physics see;
It makes fun of hl2 physics http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/354...rb100100tt.jpg
And it can eat a man inside it. http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/297...rb100116ku.jpg

But heeeyyy! It's not over until fat lady sigs or I say it is :P
Well it kind of was, cause my lovely bughuntermodel got stuck in your rubbles next to the spawns under the catwalk. http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/952...rb100148ao.jpg
I think I caught the biggest bugs you have there atm. It's cool map ginger. The stairs look good and I think they will work better than the ladders

Awsome map.

Beta test by: Donny

o_ginger lord · 11-19-2005, 11:29 AM

Just spotted this had popped back up, been a long time since I opened up the file so I'll try to remember whether I fixed all of the points you made.

Sprites were removed from the lamps iirc and the textures flashing have been fixed. I don't think having two tyres being blasted around the map should be much of a problem, they will probably end up in a corner somewhere.

Definately need to clip the ceilings off and probably some of the rubble as well.

o_ambex · 01-07-2006, 08:32 PM

this map is stunning and i love the spectacular close firefights on it.

it's a nice remake of ginger lord hands.

o_wlvy · 01-29-2006, 03:26 PM

Spot on. Absolutely perfect remake. Works well on my shitty PC also. Well done. First person I think to have made a map for FF that will actually play like a decent TFC map.

o_nezumi · 01-30-2006, 02:05 AM

I just played this map and I gotta say it's pretty kickass.

...except for the whole ladder thing. I gotta say that I think ladders would be a FAR better choice for many of the spots in this map (although not necessarily all). Many of the stairs are much slower than ladders and I get stuck on others. I don't know why people say you can only move up or down ladders either. You can also move side to side and jump away from the ladder, if you want. Also, model animations aside, ladders look pretty nifty if you use a prop like one of these:

http://www.superjer.com/nezumi/ladder.jpg

All this and the bugs gone over already aside, the map is stunning. When I first walked out of the lower red spawn door and saw that corridor with all the rubble and the sun looking exactly like the original, I had to go lay down for a few minutes.

o_nezumi · 01-30-2006, 02:06 AM

For the record, this is the first time in my life I have ever double posted.

o_ginger lord · 07-28-2006, 05:25 PM

Bump!

After playing this map on the community server, seems I have a little bit of work to do!

I've had b2 sitting on my PC for ages, I'd best dig it out and touch it up. I'll release it sharpish and we can test it on there.

o_atari · 07-28-2006, 09:21 PM

In TFC, it was easy to jump across the following gap:

However, in the ff version beta1, it's not possible:

If there is a reason for this, ignore meh

o_donny · 07-29-2006, 12:12 AM

It might be possible on FF, but not on HL2Dm.
Dunno though.

o_fragile · 07-29-2006, 07:11 AM

youuu donnnttt needdd tooo juumpppp ovverrrrr.
annndd iiiittt shouuulddnnntt boootthhherrr youuuuu thhaatt bad

o_player · 07-29-2006, 09:56 AM

Well FF's walking speed will be faster than it is in HL2, and then with bhopping added onto that, you will most probably be able to jump it.

Anyway, just how far do you miss the opposite side by? And can you jump it when using sprint?

o_darknight · 07-29-2006, 11:50 AM

You can jump over it without using sprint or bunnyhopping.

(I've just tried)

o_ginger lord · 07-29-2006, 12:25 PM

I couldn't jump over it in my version, but you can by miles with sprint.

o_ginger lord · 07-29-2006, 12:56 PM

Epicenter_b2 Changelist
-----------------------

Fixed rubble being too sharp in places, now can run over it easily
Fixed texture glitches on ground
Fixed dodgy model lighting in places
Fixed stairs by upper respawn exit not allowing you to go up in corner
Fixed misc texture misalignments
Fixed being able to get into places you shouldn't
Fixed jump between gap being too large
Fixed ambient sounds not being played
Fixed being able to see out the map
Added more clipping
Added teamplay spawms for team deathmatch in HL2DM
Removed sprites on lighting
Removed lip at bottom of spawn doors
Optimised level (10-20fps increase all over)

.:Beta 2 Download:.

o_atari · 07-29-2006, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fragile

youuu donnnttt needdd tooo juumpppp ovverrrrr.
annndd iiiittt shouuulddnnntt boootthhherrr youuuuu thhaatt bad

What makes you think it does?

Glad you got B2 outta the door GL, will download later and have a lil look.

Edit: Someone make the guy an APC model already

o_own3r · 07-29-2006, 08:21 PM

I took the time to playtest this for you, i have made a slide show of images showing problems and their solutions, it can be found here http://www.ashu39.dsl.pipex.com/epicenter/index.html

o_imbrifer · 07-29-2006, 10:20 PM

Own3r: I agree with slides 1 through 4 and 6 through 10, but as for the concing adjustments, Ginger Lord doesn't need to make the map perfect for concing. I personally think this map rocks, and I would be excited about there being slight differences between the new and the old. Plus itd look funny to have players walking on air just so they could get good concage.

Keep up the good work, Ginger Lord, and welcome back

08-23-2005, 11:26 PM	#282
Circuitous Useless Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jun 2005 Class/Position: D Soldier, O Scout Gametype: AvD Posts Rated Helpful 9 Times	Jaunty: Killzone does that, too. __________________ Look at all those dead links.

07-29-2006, 12:56 PM	#297
o_ginger lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Carlisle, UK Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Epicenter_b2 Changelist ----------------------- Fixed rubble being too sharp in places, now can run over it easily Fixed texture glitches on ground Fixed dodgy model lighting in places Fixed stairs by upper respawn exit not allowing you to go up in corner Fixed misc texture misalignments Fixed being able to get into places you shouldn't Fixed jump between gap being too large Fixed ambient sounds not being played Fixed being able to see out the map Added more clipping Added teamplay spawms for team deathmatch in HL2DM Removed sprites on lighting Removed lip at bottom of spawn doors Optimised level (10-20fps increase all over) .:Beta 2 Download:. Last edited by o_ginger lord; 07-29-2006 at 03:19 PM.

08-23-2005, 10:53 PM	#281
o_jonny.gecko Join Date: May 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	its not as though every single FF map won't have ladders...from what i've seen its just epicentre that doesnt use them... so what does it really matter? shoot people on ladders on all the other maps and you'll be sweet!

11-03-2005, 01:28 AM	#283
o_donny Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Finland Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	This is done! No one told me about that! (plays this, FIRST thing when I wake up)

11-06-2005, 03:31 PM	#284
o_donny Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Finland Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Donnys epicenter bughunt. This report will have lots and lots of images for your viewing pleasure. So please take your time. first bug I noticed was in team spawn room. When you got close enough the lamp you could see that the sprites were balls and they werent even added so that they are symmetric. http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/468...rb100021zo.jpg After that I went outside because I also wanted to see how awsome this map was done, and I have to say it looks great! But I noticed some issues with the textures on 2 places. If you move your head, you see another texture and when you move it a bit right you see that the texture flashes to another, se there is 2 textures over eachother. Hard to spot in screenshots but they burn your eyes ingame :P Place 1 http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/368...rb100001ma.jpg http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/422...rb100017gl.jpg Place 2 http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/962...rb100120ok.jpg http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/250...rb100139ac.jpg Then I noticed that you have physic object here. If you ask me they are bad. You can block doors and stuff with them (Though I tried to block door with it and I couldnt ) http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/666...rb100047dp.jpg After that I noticed decal issue near the APC just other side of the fence. http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/646...rb100089kb.jpg Now let's go back to that spawn room shall we; There is that broken light there. I think you should make it not to make collisons or better idea, cover it with playerclip texture. Cause if you go on it and do things right your head pops trough the cealing like this: http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/552...rb100036or.jpg Also there is that big rubble there. You should cover that too with playerclip while you are at it and something that blocks the physics see; It makes fun of hl2 physics http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/354...rb100100tt.jpg And it can eat a man inside it. http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/297...rb100116ku.jpg But heeeyyy! It's not over until fat lady sigs or I say it is :P Well it kind of was, cause my lovely bughuntermodel got stuck in your rubbles next to the spawns under the catwalk. http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/952...rb100148ao.jpg I think I caught the biggest bugs you have there atm. It's cool map ginger. The stairs look good and I think they will work better than the ladders Awsome map. Beta test by: Donny

11-19-2005, 11:29 AM	#285
o_ginger lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Carlisle, UK Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Just spotted this had popped back up, been a long time since I opened up the file so I'll try to remember whether I fixed all of the points you made. Sprites were removed from the lamps iirc and the textures flashing have been fixed. I don't think having two tyres being blasted around the map should be much of a problem, they will probably end up in a corner somewhere. Definately need to clip the ceilings off and probably some of the rubble as well.

01-07-2006, 08:32 PM	#286
o_ambex Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	this map is stunning and i love the spectacular close firefights on it. it's a nice remake of ginger lord hands.

01-29-2006, 03:26 PM	#287
o_wlvy Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Spot on. Absolutely perfect remake. Works well on my shitty PC also. Well done. First person I think to have made a map for FF that will actually play like a decent TFC map.

01-30-2006, 02:05 AM	#288
o_nezumi Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Peoples Republic of Harmfull Free Radicals Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I just played this map and I gotta say it's pretty kickass. ...except for the whole ladder thing. I gotta say that I think ladders would be a FAR better choice for many of the spots in this map (although not necessarily all). Many of the stairs are much slower than ladders and I get stuck on others. I don't know why people say you can only move up or down ladders either. You can also move side to side and jump away from the ladder, if you want. Also, model animations aside, ladders look pretty nifty if you use a prop like one of these: http://www.superjer.com/nezumi/ladder.jpg All this and the bugs gone over already aside, the map is stunning. When I first walked out of the lower red spawn door and saw that corridor with all the rubble and the sun looking exactly like the original, I had to go lay down for a few minutes.

01-30-2006, 02:06 AM	#289
o_nezumi Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Peoples Republic of Harmfull Free Radicals Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	For the record, this is the first time in my life I have ever double posted.

07-28-2006, 05:25 PM	#290
o_ginger lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Carlisle, UK Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Bump! After playing this map on the community server, seems I have a little bit of work to do! I've had b2 sitting on my PC for ages, I'd best dig it out and touch it up. I'll release it sharpish and we can test it on there.

07-28-2006, 09:21 PM	#291
o_atari Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Somerset, UK Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	In TFC, it was easy to jump across the following gap: However, in the ff version beta1, it's not possible: If there is a reason for this, ignore meh

07-29-2006, 12:12 AM	#292
o_donny Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Finland Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	It might be possible on FF, but not on HL2Dm. Dunno though.

07-29-2006, 07:11 AM	#293
o_fragile Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	youuu donnnttt needdd tooo juumpppp ovverrrrr. annndd iiiittt shouuulddnnntt boootthhherrr youuuuu thhaatt bad

07-29-2006, 09:56 AM	#294
o_player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Europe Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Well FF's walking speed will be faster than it is in HL2, and then with bhopping added onto that, you will most probably be able to jump it. Anyway, just how far do you miss the opposite side by? And can you jump it when using sprint?

07-29-2006, 11:50 AM	#295
o_darknight Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Yorkshire Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	You can jump over it without using sprint or bunnyhopping. (I've just tried)

07-29-2006, 12:25 PM	#296
o_ginger lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Carlisle, UK Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I couldn't jump over it in my version, but you can by miles with sprint.

07-29-2006, 08:21 PM	#299
o_own3r Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I took the time to playtest this for you, i have made a slide show of images showing problems and their solutions, it can be found here http://www.ashu39.dsl.pipex.com/epicenter/index.html

07-29-2006, 10:20 PM	#300
o_imbrifer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Changes every few months Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Own3r: I agree with slides 1 through 4 and 6 through 10, but as for the concing adjustments, Ginger Lord doesn't need to make the map perfect for concing. I personally think this map rocks, and I would be excited about there being slight differences between the new and the old. Plus itd look funny to have players walking on air just so they could get good concage. Keep up the good work, Ginger Lord, and welcome back

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