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o_tennovan · 08-31-2005, 03:08 PM

Something wrong with the knife hitboxes? I tried to knife this group of 5 guys and i didn't even hit them once, and i tried swiping the knife probably 10 times.

o_frenchtoast · 08-31-2005, 03:55 PM

I don't find the infantry to APC stuff unbalanced.

My main class is support, my brother's is medic. We often play together, and don't really encounter problems.

We play on servers that often have good team players, so one of a few things happen when an APC comes a rollin.

1. Take it out with a rocket launcher emplacement thingy

2. Have an anti-tank guy take it out

3. Have an engi take it out

4. Have a spec-ops c4 it

5. Grenade it ( it works)

6. Hide

7. Die

See? There are a lot of options.

Defrag · 08-31-2005, 04:09 PM

I do find it unbalanced at times, but only on maps where there's a high vehicle to person ratio. Everyone ends up rollin' instead of runnin', so if you aren't anti-tank, you're pro-dead. Regardless of all the available techniques, if you see an APC / Tank, then you'll die pretty sharpish unless you're fortunate enough to have cover. On city maps, I favour playing Assault as the GL can take out most light vehicles without a problem. On larger, more open maps like Dragon Valley, I tend to stick to Anti-Tank and use vehicles a lot more. That way I'm equipped to deal with anything, and the chances are that if I have to deal with infantry, it'll be close range (SMG is decent enough against most people, as most people suck).

The best way to defeat tanks / APCs is to wait for them to see one of your teammates, then get behind them and start hitting them in the back / sides. It only takes a couple of rockets from behind, and they won't see you with a bit of luck. I've found that tackling armour head-on is pretty much suicide, no matter how sharp your in-and-out is (as the splash damage of armour weapons = you can die even if you're out of view or a bit unlucky) -- plus you can guarantee your teammates will miss even if you don't.

o_frenchtoast · 08-31-2005, 04:22 PM

I'm quite a fan of being a pilot, so I do a lot of low fly-bys killing tanks. Me and my brother get in an attack chopper and pretty much go nuts.

**mervaka** · 08-31-2005, 04:26 PM

as much as i enjoy flying, i cant pilot for shit (no previous experience in flight sims), and when i'm in a tank im forever getting attacked by gunship choppers and by C4 etc, so i stick to playing infantry. so much more fun, until you run into armor :(

o_frenchtoast · 08-31-2005, 04:40 PM

I've never done any flight simulator's. I've probably logged around 6 or 7 hours of solo playing on LAN to learn the aircrafts. Once you get the hang of it, it's not hard at all.

**mervaka** · 08-31-2005, 05:03 PM

i find bombing accurately a pain in the arse. at what height/speed do the HUD optics actually become useful?

o_frenchtoast · 08-31-2005, 05:05 PM

I go as fast as I can and as low as I can. I try to go almost along the ground, so that I can level out to get the best shots at tanks.

It took a lot of practicing on open maps like Gulf of Oman. Just get in the chopper and bomb the shit otua osme tanks.

I still can't use the jet's drop bombs, only the heat-seeking.

**mervaka** · 08-31-2005, 05:09 PM

i can fly jets okay, just the whole thing of having to aim the chaingun with a joystick when youre going at that speed, it doesnt happen for me really, by the time things come into view, its half a second away. not enough time to aim the chaingun, i find

o_frenchtoast · 08-31-2005, 05:17 PM

The chaingun I can't use. I can only do the heat-seeking missiles against enemy jets/choppers.

w00t, 1000 posts

**mervaka** · 08-31-2005, 06:07 PM

rah wp :D

chaingun: i could use it if i had more time to line my gun up with a static target, else i just use it for dogfighting

Mulchman MM · 08-31-2005, 08:03 PM

You can RAPE SOME ASS in the 2 seater jet(s) that has the second person using the camera view and locking onto ground targets and then shooting missiles at said targets PROVIDED the pilot gives you lots of time to lock stuff up - meaning they need to fly straight and slow-ish. But once you lock on... it's over...

**mervaka** · 08-31-2005, 08:07 PM

so true :D

playing on the oilfields is the best for that sort of play, dive bombing from a large height gives time to lock on, and avoids most obstacles

Mulchman MM · 08-31-2005, 08:46 PM

that's the exact map i was referring to for the situation

perhaps you were my pilot the other morning!? ha

**mervaka** · 08-31-2005, 08:48 PM

probably not, im usually the gunner. pilot is too much effort when the gunner gets all the kills

o_frenchtoast · 08-31-2005, 10:08 PM

Every time a gunner kills, the pilot get's a kill assist. Good for points.

Mulchman MM · 09-01-2005, 12:54 AM

doesn't help you get the individual kills you need for some basic badges

o_sizeablessonic · 09-01-2005, 01:01 AM

Damn everone is talking about BF2 now. There are other great games out there. Free ones that are gaming experiences! [like the Marathon games] Im not saying that BF2 isnt good but there are other great games out there.

o_frenchtoast · 09-01-2005, 01:05 AM

Yeah, but BF2 is better, so...

o_sizeablessonic · 09-01-2005, 01:11 AM

The Marathon games DEFINATELY without a doubt have better single player.

08-31-2005, 04:09 PM	#203
Defrag Retired FF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Scotland Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I do find it unbalanced at times, but only on maps where there's a high vehicle to person ratio. Everyone ends up rollin' instead of runnin', so if you aren't anti-tank, you're pro-dead. Regardless of all the available techniques, if you see an APC / Tank, then you'll die pretty sharpish unless you're fortunate enough to have cover. On city maps, I favour playing Assault as the GL can take out most light vehicles without a problem. On larger, more open maps like Dragon Valley, I tend to stick to Anti-Tank and use vehicles a lot more. That way I'm equipped to deal with anything, and the chances are that if I have to deal with infantry, it'll be close range (SMG is decent enough against most people, as most people suck). The best way to defeat tanks / APCs is to wait for them to see one of your teammates, then get behind them and start hitting them in the back / sides. It only takes a couple of rockets from behind, and they won't see you with a bit of luck. I've found that tackling armour head-on is pretty much suicide, no matter how sharp your in-and-out is (as the splash damage of armour weapons = you can die even if you're out of view or a bit unlucky) -- plus you can guarantee your teammates will miss even if you don't. __________________ Fortress Forever. Level Designer, Gameplay Dude and whatnot.

08-31-2005, 08:03 PM	#212
Mulchman MM Retired FF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lacey, WA Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	You can RAPE SOME ASS in the 2 seater jet(s) that has the second person using the camera view and locking onto ground targets and then shooting missiles at said targets PROVIDED the pilot gives you lots of time to lock stuff up - meaning they need to fly straight and slow-ish. But once you lock on... it's over... __________________ Head of the Orca Revolution (TM)

08-31-2005, 08:46 PM	#214
Mulchman MM Retired FF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lacey, WA Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	that's the exact map i was referring to for the situation perhaps you were my pilot the other morning!? ha __________________ Head of the Orca Revolution (TM)

09-01-2005, 12:54 AM	#217
Mulchman MM Retired FF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lacey, WA Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	doesn't help you get the individual kills you need for some basic badges __________________ Head of the Orca Revolution (TM)

08-31-2005, 03:08 PM	#201
o_tennovan Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Texas Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Something wrong with the knife hitboxes? I tried to knife this group of 5 guys and i didn't even hit them once, and i tried swiping the knife probably 10 times.

08-31-2005, 03:55 PM	#202
o_frenchtoast Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Markham, Ontario, Canada! Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I don't find the infantry to APC stuff unbalanced. My main class is support, my brother's is medic. We often play together, and don't really encounter problems. We play on servers that often have good team players, so one of a few things happen when an APC comes a rollin. 1. Take it out with a rocket launcher emplacement thingy 2. Have an anti-tank guy take it out 3. Have an engi take it out 4. Have a spec-ops c4 it 5. Grenade it ( it works) 6. Hide 7. Die See? There are a lot of options.

08-31-2005, 04:22 PM	#204
o_frenchtoast Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Markham, Ontario, Canada! Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I'm quite a fan of being a pilot, so I do a lot of low fly-bys killing tanks. Me and my brother get in an attack chopper and pretty much go nuts.

08-31-2005, 04:26 PM	#205
mervaka A Very Sound Guy! Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: May 2005 Location: UK Posts Rated Helpful 15 Times	as much as i enjoy flying, i cant pilot for shit (no previous experience in flight sims), and when i'm in a tank im forever getting attacked by gunship choppers and by C4 etc, so i stick to playing infantry. so much more fun, until you run into armor :(

08-31-2005, 04:40 PM	#206
o_frenchtoast Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Markham, Ontario, Canada! Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I've never done any flight simulator's. I've probably logged around 6 or 7 hours of solo playing on LAN to learn the aircrafts. Once you get the hang of it, it's not hard at all.

08-31-2005, 05:03 PM	#207
mervaka A Very Sound Guy! Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: May 2005 Location: UK Posts Rated Helpful 15 Times	i find bombing accurately a pain in the arse. at what height/speed do the HUD optics actually become useful?

08-31-2005, 05:05 PM	#208
o_frenchtoast Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Markham, Ontario, Canada! Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I go as fast as I can and as low as I can. I try to go almost along the ground, so that I can level out to get the best shots at tanks. It took a lot of practicing on open maps like Gulf of Oman. Just get in the chopper and bomb the shit otua osme tanks. I still can't use the jet's drop bombs, only the heat-seeking.

08-31-2005, 05:09 PM	#209
mervaka A Very Sound Guy! Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: May 2005 Location: UK Posts Rated Helpful 15 Times	i can fly jets okay, just the whole thing of having to aim the chaingun with a joystick when youre going at that speed, it doesnt happen for me really, by the time things come into view, its half a second away. not enough time to aim the chaingun, i find

08-31-2005, 05:17 PM	#210
o_frenchtoast Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Markham, Ontario, Canada! Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	The chaingun I can't use. I can only do the heat-seeking missiles against enemy jets/choppers. w00t, 1000 posts

08-31-2005, 06:07 PM	#211
mervaka A Very Sound Guy! Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: May 2005 Location: UK Posts Rated Helpful 15 Times	rah wp :D chaingun: i could use it if i had more time to line my gun up with a static target, else i just use it for dogfighting

08-31-2005, 08:07 PM	#213
mervaka A Very Sound Guy! Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: May 2005 Location: UK Posts Rated Helpful 15 Times	so true :D playing on the oilfields is the best for that sort of play, dive bombing from a large height gives time to lock on, and avoids most obstacles

08-31-2005, 08:48 PM	#215
mervaka A Very Sound Guy! Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: May 2005 Location: UK Posts Rated Helpful 15 Times	probably not, im usually the gunner. pilot is too much effort when the gunner gets all the kills

08-31-2005, 10:08 PM	#216
o_frenchtoast Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Markham, Ontario, Canada! Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Every time a gunner kills, the pilot get's a kill assist. Good for points.

09-01-2005, 01:01 AM	#218
o_sizeablessonic Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewere in Nevada Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Damn everone is talking about BF2 now. There are other great games out there. Free ones that are gaming experiences! [like the Marathon games] Im not saying that BF2 isnt good but there are other great games out there.

09-01-2005, 01:05 AM	#219
o_frenchtoast Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Markham, Ontario, Canada! Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Yeah, but BF2 is better, so...

09-01-2005, 01:11 AM	#220
o_sizeablessonic Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewere in Nevada Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	The Marathon games DEFINATELY without a doubt have better single player.

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