are you still playing FF? - Page 10

JackBauer · 12-01-2010, 11:43 PM

Wanted to play FF in the past few days, but no one seems to be on. where is everybody? the euro scene looks completely dead at the moment.

Majesty · 12-02-2010, 02:59 AM

I would be playing, but I'm studying some of the levels and throwing together a test level in the editor. When I first ran FF I seen a server with 8 people in it. It was password protected. Not cool.

**Crazycarl** · 12-02-2010, 05:08 AM

That would be http://ffpickup.com/

Raynian · 12-02-2010, 08:59 AM

The medic is 20% slower (320 versus 400 base move speeds). That's huge, it's effectively around 120 bhop faster, plus you spawn with three concs instead of two. The scout already has plenty of leverage over the medic in some situations.

As it should be.

Jump pads, however, just make the game run too fast. Just aced the entire enemy team on destroy, on defense? Good job, you have 10 seconds until they're all back in your flag room. If there weren't jump pads, it would be closer to 15-20, unless they used concs to cross the yard. A massive difference.

Also people fail to realized how much the extra speed on a scout really helps. Gotta jump from one ledge to another, ala the spawn -> batts jump on openfire? Easy as a scout, tough as a medic. Want to do super trimps without needing a conc? Impossible as a medic.

The balance between scout and medic would be fine without JPs. It'd also help so much to slow down gameplay.

RnZ · 12-02-2010, 02:29 PM

- are you still playing FF?

No

**Elmo** · 12-02-2010, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RnZ

- are you still playing FF?

No

He plays tfc instead!!

moosh · 12-02-2010, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmo

He plays tfc instead!!

Rotten bastard!

Majesty · 12-02-2010, 06:44 PM

Quote:

He plays tfc instead!!

This should maybe hint at the dev teams about something?

chilledsanity · 12-02-2010, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Majesty

This should maybe hint at the dev teams about something?

Nope

Carrots · 12-02-2010, 09:19 PM

master plan:

revert to 1.0

RnZ · 12-02-2010, 09:29 PM

no game can compete with tfc

Majesty · 12-02-2010, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RnZ

no game can compete with tfc

Except FF, but it will take a lot of work.

Agent Buckshot Moose · 12-07-2010, 01:29 PM

I played a tiny bit last night. As it turns out, I'm really rusty for the most part.

It also turns out FF crashes under Wine like a mofo.

Lynus · 12-07-2010, 01:55 PM

In my opinion:

CTF works perfectly in pickup games... aside from constant front door spam in certain maps. now only if we could get peopel to follow the objective in PUBS.. (force people to play offense or defense)

IVD & AVD is pretty close in my opinion but I think that Jumppads should be completely removed from these gamemodes, else destroyable

it's not the sentry gun that is the problem... it's the balancing of the teams that kills it primarily and then jumppads.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Majesty

This should maybe hint at the dev teams about something?

people prefer tfc over FF - it amazes me.... really - even in FF's current form! i blame their computers

aware · 12-07-2010, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lynus

In my opinion:

CTF works perfectly in pickup games... aside from constant front door spam in certain maps. now only if we could get peopel to follow the objective in PUBS.. (force people to play offense or defense)

IVD & AVD is pretty close in my opinion but I think that Jumppads should be completely removed from these gamemodes, else destroyable

it's not the sentry gun that is the problem... it's the balancing of the teams that kills it primarily and then jumppads.

people prefer tfc over FF - it amazes me.... really - even in FF's current form! i blame their computers

Iggy · 12-07-2010, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent Buckshot Moose

It also turns out FF crashes under Wine like a mofo.

So do many drivers. ROFL!

MASH · 12-07-2010, 11:13 PM

instead of complaining like everyone else...

Here are some possible solutions to the jumpad issue (not that I am saying there is a problem, but if there is...)

1. Remove Jumpad
2. Make Jumpad Destroyable
3. Make Jumpad only useable by scouts (or scouts and Medics)
4. Put a timer on jumpad (ie. it has to charge for x seconds before it can be reused to jump)
5. Make Jump pad consume a portion of Armour of heavier classes in order to power itself (portion is relative to classes weight, so scout gives 0% armour, medic gives 5-10%, Heavy gives %30 and so on)
6. Make jumppad launch class only as far as they weigh, eg heavy only gets launched half as far as a scout
7. Jumpad is only buildable by engineer, not scout

Im sure there are more solutions, and i think some of the above could be used in conjunction with one another, but these should get the ball rolling...

**squeek.** · 12-07-2010, 11:23 PM

Spoiler: At least one of those will be in 2.42.

MASH · 12-07-2010, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by squeek.

Spoiler: At least one of those will be in 2.42.

I should totally be on the FF suggestion Board :P

Carrots · 12-08-2010, 12:05 AM

my vote is that engy builds them

12-01-2010, 11:43 PM	#181
JackBauer Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Switzerland Posts Rated Helpful 20 Times	Wanted to play FF in the past few days, but no one seems to be on. where is everybody? the euro scene looks completely dead at the moment. __________________ Swiss Fortress Community

12-02-2010, 08:59 AM	#184
Raynian D&A Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Ruining #pickups Class/Position: SPAWN CAMPING OH NO Gametype: Ragequitting Affiliations: [PMS]. [Shiney] Posts Rated Helpful 26 Times	The medic is 20% slower (320 versus 400 base move speeds). That's huge, it's effectively around 120 bhop faster, plus you spawn with three concs instead of two. The scout already has plenty of leverage over the medic in some situations. As it should be. Jump pads, however, just make the game run too fast. Just aced the entire enemy team on destroy, on defense? Good job, you have 10 seconds until they're all back in your flag room. If there weren't jump pads, it would be closer to 15-20, unless they used concs to cross the yard. A massive difference. Also people fail to realized how much the extra speed on a scout really helps. Gotta jump from one ledge to another, ala the spawn -> batts jump on openfire? Easy as a scout, tough as a medic. Want to do super trimps without needing a conc? Impossible as a medic. The balance between scout and medic would be fine without JPs. It'd also help so much to slow down gameplay. __________________ 7:00 PM - zE: eh tbh i like some stuff in us but a lot of stuff in us messes with my nerves 7:00 PM - zE: like watching fox news 7:00 PM - zE: its like wtf

12-07-2010, 11:23 PM	#198
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12-02-2010, 02:59 AM	#182
Majesty D&A Member Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: USA, Ohio Class/Position: Scout Gametype: CTF Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I would be playing, but I'm studying some of the levels and throwing together a test level in the editor. When I first ran FF I seen a server with 8 people in it. It was password protected. Not cool.

12-02-2010, 05:08 AM	#183
Crazycarl D&A Member Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 31 Times	That would be http://ffpickup.com/

12-02-2010, 02:29 PM	#185
RnZ D&A Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Rotterdam Class/Position: I like them all (except snipers :P) Gametype: Capture the Flag Affiliations: [TW] Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	- are you still playing FF? No

12-02-2010, 09:19 PM	#190
Carrots Join Date: Oct 2009 Gametype: Capture the Flag Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	master plan: revert to 1.0

12-02-2010, 09:29 PM	#191
RnZ D&A Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Rotterdam Class/Position: I like them all (except snipers :P) Gametype: Capture the Flag Affiliations: [TW] Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	no game can compete with tfc

12-07-2010, 01:29 PM	#193
Agent Buckshot Moose Wiki Standards Team Wiki Team Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Geokill's closet Class/Position: Sniper/Demoman Gametype: CTF Affiliations: :e0: Co-leader Posts Rated Helpful 6 Times	I played a tiny bit last night. As it turns out, I'm really rusty for the most part. It also turns out FF crashes under Wine like a mofo.

12-07-2010, 11:13 PM	#197
MASH Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	instead of complaining like everyone else... Here are some possible solutions to the jumpad issue (not that I am saying there is a problem, but if there is...) 1. Remove Jumpad 2. Make Jumpad Destroyable 3. Make Jumpad only useable by scouts (or scouts and Medics) 4. Put a timer on jumpad (ie. it has to charge for x seconds before it can be reused to jump) 5. Make Jump pad consume a portion of Armour of heavier classes in order to power itself (portion is relative to classes weight, so scout gives 0% armour, medic gives 5-10%, Heavy gives %30 and so on) 6. Make jumppad launch class only as far as they weigh, eg heavy only gets launched half as far as a scout 7. Jumpad is only buildable by engineer, not scout Im sure there are more solutions, and i think some of the above could be used in conjunction with one another, but these should get the ball rolling...

12-08-2010, 12:05 AM	#200
Carrots Join Date: Oct 2009 Gametype: Capture the Flag Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	my vote is that engy builds them

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