Pipe Dreams

XPelargos · 07-31-2012, 01:55 AM

u buzzin? ^1%h ^2%a

But seriously folks, how do you like to lay your pipe traps?

All 6 out then reload?
4 out, reload, then 4 more?
2 out, reload, 2 out, reload, etc?

Discuss the merits of different loadouts in different situations and maps.

K thx bye.

oaties · 07-31-2012, 02:36 AM

I shot pipe at flag!!!!!

CaptainAhab · 07-31-2012, 03:35 AM

Lay 2, joke's on you, lay 2 more, now it's 4.

Lay the next batch, but wait there's a catch: I'm really putting down 8, so fuck you and your scouts.

reaper18 · 07-31-2012, 03:45 AM

3 will kill anyone no problem, and its easy to follow up on esp if theres another offence behind the one you just killed

oaties · 07-31-2012, 04:30 AM

In pickups, the amount of pipes I use largely depends on the flags location. On destroy, for example, if the flag is still in security I will 8 pipe the flag (but recently i have been experimenting with piping flag and button at the same time

).

When the flag is moved up to the foyer however, since there is a constant rush of enemies, I usually won't have time to put 8 pipes on the flag, so I usually use 2 pipes and lay down more when there is a cease in the action.

aleXtric · 07-31-2012, 04:43 AM

2 kills 1 pipe

Raynian · 07-31-2012, 04:56 AM

place 8 then tactically det one at a time by placing more.

Just kidding, I don't play demo.

KubeDawg · 07-31-2012, 04:57 AM

I usually place 3 in a triangle round the flag about 4-5 feet away, then if I have time, I'll place the rest about 10 feet around the flag. It also depends on where the enemy will usually conc in from. It's less predictable to pipe on ofire than it is to pipe on aardvark, for example, because there are 2 general directions an enemy usually comes from opposed to ofire which is at least 4, plus 2 more positions O can jump from that can fake out most demos.

If it's a map like destroy or if I am guarding sec. on ofire, I like to place my pipes more outwards to cover more of the floor.

If I am feeling a bit lucky, I'll place my pipes directly on the flag in the exact same spot and throw a bag over them to hide em.

aleXtric · 07-31-2012, 05:06 AM

its too map specific to even discuss tbh.

XPelargos · 07-31-2012, 09:37 AM

How about ff_baked?

Discuss offensive demo. Pros and cons.
I see it as "trade off movement for making openings for movement classes. " which works if scouts know how to exploit those short openings.

Agent Buckshot Moose · 07-31-2012, 05:56 PM

All depends on the map, where the flag is, and how fast enemies can get to it. If enemies are coming in slowly, more pipes. If enemies are coming in faster, less pipes. I will usually lay 2 or 3 around the flag and then spread out more around it. Larger radius helps compensate for reaction time and also some attackers don't seem to notice when your pipes are spread further out.

Offensive demo: very good at punching holes in enemy defense assuming you don't blow your teammates up. Not so good at movement unless you want to take out half of your health, which can be inadvisable since you don't have much to begin with. Offensive demoman works best on smaller maps where a lack of concs won't hurt as much. Also smaller maps usually = smaller rooms which makes the demoman that much better.

AfterShock · 07-31-2012, 06:15 PM

With the instant respawn it's hard to get more than 2 or 3 outside their spawn before they are back again

FDA_Approved · 08-01-2012, 02:09 AM

I just run around and blue pipe everything. Directs are fun, forget trapping.

CaptainAhab · 08-01-2012, 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spoon`

you're all terrible at demo so stfu.

Maybe a little insight would be helpful in making better demomen in FF.

XPelargos · 08-01-2012, 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainAhab

Maybe a little insight would be helpful in making better demomen in FF.

I blame plugins.

07-31-2012, 01:55 AM	#1
XPelargos I like to spam binds Beta Tester Join Date: May 2009 Class/Position: Scoooooot Gametype: Capture the Flag Posts Rated Helpful 73 Times	Pipe Dreams u buzzin? ^1%h ^2%a But seriously folks, how do you like to lay your pipe traps? All 6 out then reload? 4 out, reload, then 4 more? 2 out, reload, 2 out, reload, etc? Discuss the merits of different loadouts in different situations and maps. K thx bye.

07-31-2012, 04:43 AM	#6
aleXtric #FF.Pickup Dictator Beta Tester Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Detroit Gametype: ADL Affiliations: KiNGz . Posts Rated Helpful 100 Times	2 kills 1 pipe __________________ !add #FF.Pickup - Quakenet http://www.ffpickup.com/?p=irc

07-31-2012, 04:56 AM	#7
Raynian D&A Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Ruining #pickups Class/Position: SPAWN CAMPING OH NO Gametype: Ragequitting Affiliations: [PMS]. [Shiney] Posts Rated Helpful 26 Times	place 8 then tactically det one at a time by placing more. Just kidding, I don't play demo. __________________ 7:00 PM - zE: eh tbh i like some stuff in us but a lot of stuff in us messes with my nerves 7:00 PM - zE: like watching fox news 7:00 PM - zE: its like wtf

07-31-2012, 04:57 AM	#8
KubeDawg Nade Whore Server Owner Beta Tester Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Oklahoma Class/Position: Scout/Soldier Gametype: CTF/TDM Affiliations: blunt. Moto Posts Rated Helpful 128 Times	I usually place 3 in a triangle round the flag about 4-5 feet away, then if I have time, I'll place the rest about 10 feet around the flag. It also depends on where the enemy will usually conc in from. It's less predictable to pipe on ofire than it is to pipe on aardvark, for example, because there are 2 general directions an enemy usually comes from opposed to ofire which is at least 4, plus 2 more positions O can jump from that can fake out most demos. If it's a map like destroy or if I am guarding sec. on ofire, I like to place my pipes more outwards to cover more of the floor. If I am feeling a bit lucky, I'll place my pipes directly on the flag in the exact same spot and throw a bag over them to hide em. __________________ Moto's Funhouse \| Dallas, TX - 74.91.114.247:27015 ff_plunder - Complete Last edited by KubeDawg; 07-31-2012 at 04:58 AM.

07-31-2012, 05:06 AM	#9
aleXtric #FF.Pickup Dictator Beta Tester Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Detroit Gametype: ADL Affiliations: KiNGz . Posts Rated Helpful 100 Times	its too map specific to even discuss tbh. __________________ !add #FF.Pickup - Quakenet http://www.ffpickup.com/?p=irc

07-31-2012, 02:36 AM	#2
oaties Join Date: Nov 2010 Gametype: Capture the Flag Posts Rated Helpful 38 Times	I shot pipe at flag!!!!!

07-31-2012, 03:35 AM	#3
CaptainAhab D&A Member Beta Tester Join Date: Jan 2012 Gametype: AvD Posts Rated Helpful 35 Times	Lay 2, joke's on you, lay 2 more, now it's 4. Lay the next batch, but wait there's a catch: I'm really putting down 8, so fuck you and your scouts.

07-31-2012, 03:45 AM	#4
reaper18 sKeeD D&A Member Beta Tester Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Class/Position: Scout, Demo, Solly Gametype: Any Posts Rated Helpful 21 Times	3 will kill anyone no problem, and its easy to follow up on esp if theres another offence behind the one you just killed

07-31-2012, 04:30 AM	#5
oaties Join Date: Nov 2010 Gametype: Capture the Flag Posts Rated Helpful 38 Times	In pickups, the amount of pipes I use largely depends on the flags location. On destroy, for example, if the flag is still in security I will 8 pipe the flag (but recently i have been experimenting with piping flag and button at the same time ). When the flag is moved up to the foyer however, since there is a constant rush of enemies, I usually won't have time to put 8 pipes on the flag, so I usually use 2 pipes and lay down more when there is a cease in the action.

07-31-2012, 09:37 AM	#10
XPelargos I like to spam binds Beta Tester Join Date: May 2009 Class/Position: Scoooooot Gametype: Capture the Flag Posts Rated Helpful 73 Times	How about ff_baked? Discuss offensive demo. Pros and cons. I see it as "trade off movement for making openings for movement classes. " which works if scouts know how to exploit those short openings.

07-31-2012, 05:56 PM	#11
Agent Buckshot Moose Wiki Standards Team Wiki Team Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Geokill's closet Class/Position: Sniper/Demoman Gametype: CTF Affiliations: :e0: Co-leader Posts Rated Helpful 6 Times	All depends on the map, where the flag is, and how fast enemies can get to it. If enemies are coming in slowly, more pipes. If enemies are coming in faster, less pipes. I will usually lay 2 or 3 around the flag and then spread out more around it. Larger radius helps compensate for reaction time and also some attackers don't seem to notice when your pipes are spread further out. Offensive demo: very good at punching holes in enemy defense assuming you don't blow your teammates up. Not so good at movement unless you want to take out half of your health, which can be inadvisable since you don't have much to begin with. Offensive demoman works best on smaller maps where a lack of concs won't hurt as much. Also smaller maps usually = smaller rooms which makes the demoman that much better. Last edited by Agent Buckshot Moose; 07-31-2012 at 06:01 PM.

07-31-2012, 06:15 PM	#12
AfterShock Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 45 Times	With the instant respawn it's hard to get more than 2 or 3 outside their spawn before they are back again Last edited by AfterShock; 07-31-2012 at 06:16 PM.

08-01-2012, 02:09 AM	#13
FDA_Approved Beta Tester Join Date: Nov 2011 Gametype: Capture the Flag Posts Rated Helpful 293 Times	I just run around and blue pipe everything. Directs are fun, forget trapping.

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