Skyrim MMO

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http://bit.ly/IItEEq

OH NO MY LIFE IS OVER!!!

I actually have my doubts about how fun/well this would work out. A multiplayer mod is one thing. But idk how a whole spanking mmo will work out.

One thing I didn't like about skyrim is how lacking the cities were. I'm sure that a lot of us were hoping for some really epic cities. Most of them are really small, and that really doesn't sound like a good mmo experience. Allthough it set to take place “a millennium before the events of Skyrim". So who knows.

Idk, skyrim was amazing. But I have my doubts about an MMO adaption.

[CaptainAhab]

Could be incredible, could be crap. I wonder what MMO formula it will adhere to though... WoW, SWTOR...?

[Respect38]

Originally Posted by CaptainAhab

Could be incredible, could be crap. I wonder what MMO formula it will adhere to though... WoW, SWTOR...?

Planetside...? :P

[Lost]

I don't think Bethesda is going to pooch this one. They're smart, they follow the crowd long enough to see what they're doing and then switch it up a fuckton. Yeah, Oblivion and Skyrim had issues, but to millions of people they are fun, endless timesinks.

I actually had hoped for a Fallout MMO, which I know is also in their box, but I doubt it will ever see the light of day with this behemoth on the horizon.

[WiFiDi]

Originally Posted by CaptainAhab

Could be incredible, could be crap. I wonder what MMO formula it will adhere to though... WoW, SWTOR...?

some how i doubt it will be inbetween. unfortunately this is something I don't even want. The reason I play these types of games is because they are single player.

[Crazycarl]

Originally Posted by Lost

I don't think Bethesda is going to pooch this one. They're smart, they follow the crowd long enough to see what they're doing and then switch it up a fuckton. Yeah, Oblivion and Skyrim had issues, but to millions of people they are fun, endless timesinks.

Bethesda isn't making it, though. It's being made by ZeniMax Online Studios.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=472749

I don't care for MMOs in general. I like ES games for exploring and discovering things, and the illusion is broken when there are 1000 people on the server who've explored everything first.

[eomoyaff]

Originally Posted by FDA_Approved

http://bit.ly/IItEEq

OH NO MY LIFE IS OVER!!!

I actually have my doubts about how fun/well this would work out. A multiplayer mod is one thing. But idk how a whole spanking mmo will work out.

One thing I didn't like about skyrim is how lacking the cities were. I'm sure that a lot of us were hoping for some really epic cities. Most of them are really small, and that really doesn't sound like a good mmo experience. Allthough it set to take place “a millennium before the events of Skyrim". So who knows.

Idk, skyrim was amazing. But I have my doubts about an MMO adaption.

Elder Scrolls MMO*

And it's going to be bad. It's practically the same Machanical core that SWTOR used, same engine, and they've divided races into factions which pretty much destroys the element of immersion when it comes to trust. You're forced to pick a side. No player homes, no first person aspect, and more then likely, the end game is going to suck (just like SWTOR.) Pass up the title. Not sure what Bethesda was thinking this time around.

[Lost]

How exactly are you related to Bethesda Softworks again?

ZeniMax Media owns both Bethesda Softworks as well as ZeniMax Online Studios. Bethesda makes AAA console-oriented titles, and ZeniMax Online (us!) makes MMOGs. Because we are all inside the same corporate structure, we share IP and because our offices are only about an hour apart, we can work closely with Bethesda's staff.

Straight from the ZeniMax website. I was actually looking for other titles they've made so as to get a good overview of what kind of product they put out, but I thought that name was familiar; they're all owned by ZeniMax Media, who owns id, Bethesda, Arkane.

Funny enough, I can find hits all over for their ZeniMax Online Studios, and references to the developers that ZeniMax owns, but I can't find anything that it has actually developed itself. Is it a new division freshly cut to put out the ES MMO?

[FDA_Approved]

Originally Posted by Lost

Is it a new division freshly cut to put out the ES MMO?

That's how I was hearing it.

[Lost]

I have no problem with them using an existing engine to put out a game, it's done all over the world. But if they're just tossing people and money at this, I don't see how they're going to pull it off. Bethesda might be part of ZeniMax, but it sounds like ZeniMax is the money and clout, not the brains nor the talent. Halo MMO anyone? 30 million sunk into it and it just disappears. These guys are pushing 300 mil... More money does not equal better games.

I wonder if they see the falling WoW numbers and smell blood?

[GenghisTron]

Originally Posted by FDA_Approved

One thing I didn't like about skyrim is how lacking the cities were. I'm sure that a lot of us were hoping for some really epic cities. Most of them are really small, and that really doesn't sound like a good mmo experience.

Wow, it's refreshing to see someone level an actual criticism of Skyrim. I played it for 90 hours, and couldn't pick it back up. Todd Howard said that Skyrim would have everything that was great about Morrowind in it. It didn't. Morrowind was by far the best game in the Elder Scrolls series. Skyrim doesn't hold a candle to the experience it provided it's players. There were so many easter eggs, each city was ENTIRELY different from the next, it felt organic. Skyrim was boring in the RPG aspect, it recycled the same shit we've seen in every other RPG under the sun and covered up it's RPG deficiency with Micheal Bay-style wowism. Morrowind felt so organic and spontaneous, and as someone who has played a lot of games (and RPG's) it felt like every new area of the world held a new discovery that would enhance the plot that much more. There was a few annoying things about Morrowind, and Skyrim fixed them, and they even added some cool new things, but it's still an unpolished and undeveloped RPG.

So I'm not entirely off-topic, a Skyrim MMO is a terrible idea. The only reason it'll be successful is because of how many clueless gamers are out there who fawn over stupid fucking memes and latch to the crusty anuses of every new bandwagon trend that comes to town. With success comes pragmatism, and with pragmatism comes shitty games. It happens to every major publisher and developer. The bigger you get, the more window-licking mouth-breathers you have to please, and the worse your product gets. 'Wholesome' developers like Bethesda and even iD all fall into this trap.

/rant

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Originally Posted by GenghisTron

Wow, it's refreshing to see someone level an actual criticism of Skyrim. I played it for 90 hours, and couldn't pick it back up. Todd Howard said that Skyrim would have everything that was great about Morrowind in it. It didn't. Morrowind was by far the best game in the Elder Scrolls series. Skyrim doesn't hold a candle to the experience it provided it's players. There were so many easter eggs, each city was ENTIRELY different from the next, it felt organic. Skyrim was boring in the RPG aspect, it recycled the same shit we've seen in every other RPG under the sun and covered up it's RPG deficiency with Micheal Bay-style wowism. Morrowind felt so organic and spontaneous, and as someone who has played a lot of games (and RPG's) it felt like every new area of the world held a new discovery that would enhance the plot that much more. There was a few annoying things about Morrowind, and Skyrim fixed them, and they even added some cool new things, but it's still an unpolished and undeveloped RPG.

So I'm not entirely off-topic, a Skyrim MMO is a terrible idea. The only reason it'll be successful is because of how many clueless gamers are out there who fawn over stupid fucking memes and latch to the crusty anuses of every new bandwagon trend that comes to town. With success comes pragmatism, and with pragmatism comes shitty games. It happens to every major publisher and developer. The bigger you get, the more window-licking mouth-breathers you have to please, and the worse your product gets. 'Wholesome' developers like Bethesda and even iD all fall into this trap.

/rant

Omg baby. We can talk about what Skyrim did wrong all day. I really like skyrim, but it's deffinately a let down compared to Morrowind. Consolized all to hell basicly.

I really liked how in Morrowind, you could talk to anyone. They might not have much to say. But you could ask anyone about rumors, or who they are, etc etc. I hate how you can no longer attack or spell cast in the air, not to mention no flying period. Lack of acrobatics and athletics killed it for me as well.

[Lost]

Originally Posted by FDA_Approved

I really like skyrim, but it's deffinately a let down compared to Morrowind. Consolized all to hell basicly.

In the IGN article, Bethesda even classifies itself as a console RPG game designer. That seals the deal...

Skyrim is leagues below Morrowind in immersiveness but its not a bad game. I enjoyed the hell out of it, and it's definitely the best this generation has ever seen. My son watched me play Morrowind, but he didn't play it, was too young to be interested, and while he could appreciate it to an extent, it would not be a game he liked to play.

[FDA_Approved]

That's really sad.