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torrening =/= pirating
Yea, it's pretty painful to read posts where people get all condescending and self-important. I'm trying to help you justify the moral case for pirating music, and all you can come up with is some smug rebuttal.
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01-20-2010, 11:27 AM | #2 |
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Can a mod split that post into D&A? I think this is going to get hilarious.
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Torrenting does not equal pirating.
Pirating equals pirating. That's... all there is to it.
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And I don't think anyone is arguing that. I'm saying that torrenting an album is pirating. I don't know how Genghis is contesting that, try as he might.
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And finally, I'm not going to discuss the pirating of this music in a public forum, as it is not the venue for it. But please, do go on Genghis.
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Copying equates to pirating and torrents spread copies of the original copyrighted material. Even if it isn't a whole chunk. Therefore torrenting copywrite material is pirating although torrenting isn't exclusive to pirated aka copywrite material. Many legal torrents of software are available for example, open source linux distros. Or torrenting your original material. Some bands legally spread their music via torrenting. For the most part however torrenting equates to pirating at least in reality. Which is why public torrent trackers or systematically shut down over and over.
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Let's do a quick context review.
FT is trying to download an iTunes exclusive album. FT states that, in addition to being unable to buy the album from the iTunes store he was unable to find a torrent of the album. IMPLYING HE HAS ATTEMPTED TO PIRATE THE ALBUM. Genghis comes in and says: "LOL YOU FRAID OF PIRATES" Others, including FT, assert that isn't the case. Genghis gets butthurt. Thread goes here. Shitfest commences. |
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Torrenting was pirating in that case, but I think GenghisTron was stating that torrenting is not the only form of pirating, but then people said "Yeah it kinda is" so he assumed they meant torrenting in general was pirating. So, it's one big fucking mistake. But, anyways:
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Prove it.
Moved to the split off thread by Iggy Last edited by Iggy; 01-21-2010 at 12:01 AM. Reason: so everyone knows who moved it. |
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While the two certainly do not mean the same thing the only thing I can put forward is a simple thought.
If something exists that doesn't belong to you and you take it without paying or exchanging for it (or permission from the owner) then it is stealing. Now that goes for intellectual property as well as physical. That said, torrenting and pirating are still different things. I also don't totally believe that it's immoral to download some songs off the internet. The reason I don't do it is because I'm that guy that always gets caught with that crap. |
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I moved the 4 noted posts into here, so you can keep argueing about it, without derailing the thread where FT is asking for help, and people are actually trying to help.
The other option was handing out infractions... If you have a problem with it... raise a concern here.
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Perhaps he's gently but firmly pointing out that your argument would look much better if you exhibited half the quality's you bitch at me for not having.
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