Random system freezes? (Vista)

Mooga · 03-17-2009, 04:52 AM

My system has been randomly freezing durring use. Once as I exited a game, and once when I was IMing someone (I was highlighting text when it crashed).

Any ideas? Or is this just "vista sucks" issues?

Anshinritsumai · 03-17-2009, 09:49 AM

The information you present is a bit vague to be quite honest.

Can you give us more information? What exactly does your computer do? Does it respond after awhile? Do you have to turn it off and turn it back on? Any sort of error messages or anything?

For example, my computer will randomly crash (not freeze, crash) without warning, it's not a BSOD either; screen just goes black and power supply has to be turned off and back on just to get it to run again.

Shadow00Caster · 03-17-2009, 04:54 PM

Please post system specs and Application/Security/System Event Logs from the times before and after your crash/freeze.

Mooga · 03-17-2009, 05:53 PM

Sorry for being vauge, I wasn't sure even where to start.

What happens is that everything freezes. The screens freeze (No errors, No BSoD) and it doesn't respond to any keyboard or mouse commands. The screen it stuck, no change. Sound also gets sucks I think... I don't remember if it looped or was stuck in a note.

-=Specs=-
CASE: Antec Nine Hundred
MOBO: EVGA NVIDIA nForce 750i FTW
CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9300 2.5GHz
HEAT SINK: ZALMAN CNPS9700 LED 110mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler
RAM: OCZ Reaper HPC 4GB DDR2 1066
GPU: XFX GeForce 9800 GTX Black Edition 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16
HDD: Western Digital Caviar SE16 640GB 7200 RPM
HDD: HITACHI 1TB 7200 RPM
DVD: Samsung DVD Burner
PSU: ZALMAN ZM750-HP Continuous 750W ATX12V
OS: Windows Vista Business x64 SP 1

MAIN SCREEN: Dell 1704FPV @ 1280 x 1024
SECONDARY SCREEN: HP L1530 @ 1024 x 768
MOUSE: Logitech G5 SE
KEYBOARD: Random PS2 Microsoft Keyboard
MIC: Logitech USB Desktop Microphone
WEBCAM: Microsft LifeCam VX-5000
SPEAKERS: Bose Companion 2

-=Logs=-
SYSTEM:

Code:

Log Name:      System
Source:        EventLog
Date:          3/16/2009 10:40:45 PM
Event ID:      6008
Task Category: None
Level:         Error
Keywords:      Classic
User:          N/A
Computer:      Mooga-Desktop
Description:
The previous system shutdown at 10:38:22 PM on 3/16/2009 was unexpected.
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
  <System>
    <Provider Name="EventLog" />
    <EventID Qualifiers="32768">6008</EventID>
    <Level>2</Level>
    <Task>0</Task>
    <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
    <TimeCreated SystemTime="2009-03-17T03:40:45.000Z" />
    <EventRecordID>18414</EventRecordID>
    <Channel>System</Channel>
    <Computer>Mooga-Desktop</Computer>
    <Security />
  </System>
  <EventData>
    <Data>10:38:22 PM</Data>
    <Data>3/16/2009</Data>
    <Data>
    </Data>
    <Data>
    </Data>
    <Data>46294</Data>
    <Data>
    </Data>
    <Data>
    </Data>
    <Binary>D907030001001000160026001600E202D907030002001100030026001600E202600900003C000000010000006009000000000000B00400000100000000000000</Binary>
  </EventData>
</Event>

Log Name:      System
Source:        Service Control Manager
Date:          3/16/2009 9:47:16 PM
Event ID:      7036
Task Category: None
Level:         Information
Keywords:      Classic
User:          N/A
Computer:      Mooga-Desktop
Description:
The WinHTTP Web Proxy Auto-Discovery Service service entered the stopped state.
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
  <System>
    <Provider Name="Service Control Manager" Guid="{555908D1-A6D7-4695-8E1E-26931D2012F4}" EventSourceName="Service Control Manager" />
    <EventID Qualifiers="16384">7036</EventID>
    <Version>0</Version>
    <Level>4</Level>
    <Task>0</Task>
    <Opcode>0</Opcode>
    <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
    <TimeCreated SystemTime="2009-03-17T02:47:16.000Z" />
    <EventRecordID>18413</EventRecordID>
    <Correlation />
    <Execution ProcessID="0" ThreadID="0" />
    <Channel>System</Channel>
    <Computer>Mooga-Desktop</Computer>
    <Security />
  </System>
  <EventData>
    <Data Name="param1">WinHTTP Web Proxy Auto-Discovery Service</Data>
    <Data Name="param2">stopped</Data>
  </EventData>
</Event>

Log Name:      System
Source:        Service Control Manager
Date:          3/16/2009 9:30:46 PM
Event ID:      7036
Task Category: None
Level:         Information
Keywords:      Classic
User:          N/A
Computer:      Mooga-Desktop
Description:
The WinHTTP Web Proxy Auto-Discovery Service service entered the running state.
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
  <System>
    <Provider Name="Service Control Manager" Guid="{555908D1-A6D7-4695-8E1E-26931D2012F4}" EventSourceName="Service Control Manager" />
    <EventID Qualifiers="16384">7036</EventID>
    <Version>0</Version>
    <Level>4</Level>
    <Task>0</Task>
    <Opcode>0</Opcode>
    <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
    <TimeCreated SystemTime="2009-03-17T02:30:46.000Z" />
    <EventRecordID>18412</EventRecordID>
    <Correlation />
    <Execution ProcessID="0" ThreadID="0" />
    <Channel>System</Channel>
    <Computer>Mooga-Desktop</Computer>
    <Security />
  </System>
  <EventData>
    <Data Name="param1">WinHTTP Web Proxy Auto-Discovery Service</Data>
    <Data Name="param2">running</Data>
  </EventData>
</Event>

Log Name:      System
Source:        Service Control Manager
Date:          3/16/2009 7:55:40 PM
Event ID:      7036
Task Category: None
Level:         Information
Keywords:      Classic
User:          N/A
Computer:      Mooga-Desktop
Description:
The WinHTTP Web Proxy Auto-Discovery Service service entered the stopped state.
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
  <System>
    <Provider Name="Service Control Manager" Guid="{555908D1-A6D7-4695-8E1E-26931D2012F4}" EventSourceName="Service Control Manager" />
    <EventID Qualifiers="16384">7036</EventID>
    <Version>0</Version>
    <Level>4</Level>
    <Task>0</Task>
    <Opcode>0</Opcode>
    <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
    <TimeCreated SystemTime="2009-03-17T00:55:40.000Z" />
    <EventRecordID>18411</EventRecordID>
    <Correlation />
    <Execution ProcessID="0" ThreadID="0" />
    <Channel>System</Channel>
    <Computer>Mooga-Desktop</Computer>
    <Security />
  </System>
  <EventData>
    <Data Name="param1">WinHTTP Web Proxy Auto-Discovery Service</Data>
    <Data Name="param2">stopped</Data>
  </EventData>
</Event>

Log Name:      System
Source:        Service Control Manager
Date:          3/16/2009 7:39:10 PM
Event ID:      7036
Task Category: None
Level:         Information
Keywords:      Classic
User:          N/A
Computer:      Mooga-Desktop
Description:
The WinHTTP Web Proxy Auto-Discovery Service service entered the running state.
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
  <System>
    <Provider Name="Service Control Manager" Guid="{555908D1-A6D7-4695-8E1E-26931D2012F4}" EventSourceName="Service Control Manager" />
    <EventID Qualifiers="16384">7036</EventID>
    <Version>0</Version>
    <Level>4</Level>
    <Task>0</Task>
    <Opcode>0</Opcode>
    <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
    <TimeCreated SystemTime="2009-03-17T00:39:10.000Z" />
    <EventRecordID>18410</EventRecordID>
    <Correlation />
    <Execution ProcessID="0" ThreadID="0" />
    <Channel>System</Channel>
    <Computer>Mooga-Desktop</Computer>
    <Security />
  </System>
  <EventData>
    <Data Name="param1">WinHTTP Web Proxy Auto-Discovery Service</Data>
    <Data Name="param2">running</Data>
  </EventData>
</Event>

Log Name:      System
Source:        Service Control Manager
Date:          3/16/2009 7:24:07 PM
Event ID:      7036
Task Category: None
Level:         Information
Keywords:      Classic
User:          N/A
Computer:      Mooga-Desktop
Description:
The Steam Client Service service entered the running state.
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
  <System>
    <Provider Name="Service Control Manager" Guid="{555908D1-A6D7-4695-8E1E-26931D2012F4}" EventSourceName="Service Control Manager" />
    <EventID Qualifiers="16384">7036</EventID>
    <Version>0</Version>
    <Level>4</Level>
    <Task>0</Task>
    <Opcode>0</Opcode>
    <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
    <TimeCreated SystemTime="2009-03-17T00:24:07.000Z" />
    <EventRecordID>18409</EventRecordID>
    <Correlation />
    <Execution ProcessID="0" ThreadID="0" />
    <Channel>System</Channel>
    <Computer>Mooga-Desktop</Computer>
    <Security />
  </System>
  <EventData>
    <Data Name="param1">Steam Client Service</Data>
    <Data Name="param2">running</Data>
  </EventData>
</Event>

Log Name:      System
Source:        Service Control Manager
Date:          3/16/2009 7:23:51 PM
Event ID:      7036
Task Category: None
Level:         Information
Keywords:      Classic
User:          N/A
Computer:      Mooga-Desktop
Description:
The Steam Client Service service entered the stopped state.
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
  <System>
    <Provider Name="Service Control Manager" Guid="{555908D1-A6D7-4695-8E1E-26931D2012F4}" EventSourceName="Service Control Manager" />
    <EventID Qualifiers="16384">7036</EventID>
    <Version>0</Version>
    <Level>4</Level>
    <Task>0</Task>
    <Opcode>0</Opcode>
    <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
    <TimeCreated SystemTime="2009-03-17T00:23:51.000Z" />
    <EventRecordID>18408</EventRecordID>
    <Correlation />
    <Execution ProcessID="0" ThreadID="0" />
    <Channel>System</Channel>
    <Computer>Mooga-Desktop</Computer>
    <Security />
  </System>
  <EventData>
    <Data Name="param1">Steam Client Service</Data>
    <Data Name="param2">stopped</Data>
  </EventData>
</Event>

Log Name:      System
Source:        Tcpip
Date:          3/16/2009 7:17:12 PM
Event ID:      4226
Task Category: None
Level:         Warning
Keywords:      Classic
User:          N/A
Computer:      Mooga-Desktop
Description:
TCP/IP has reached the security limit imposed on the number of concurrent TCP connect attempts.
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
  <System>
    <Provider Name="Tcpip" />
    <EventID Qualifiers="32768">4226</EventID>
    <Level>3</Level>
    <Task>0</Task>
    <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
    <TimeCreated SystemTime="2009-03-17T00:17:12.226Z" />
    <EventRecordID>18407</EventRecordID>
    <Channel>System</Channel>
    <Computer>Mooga-Desktop</Computer>
    <Security />
  </System>
  <EventData>
    <Data>
    </Data>
    <Binary>00000000010000000000000082100080000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000</Binary>
  </EventData>
</Event>

And Another:

Code:

Log Name:      System
Source:        EventLog
Date:          3/17/2009 12:03:47 AM
Event ID:      6013
Task Category: None
Level:         Information
Keywords:      Classic
User:          N/A
Computer:      Mooga-Desktop
Description:
The system uptime is 44 seconds.
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
  <System>
    <Provider Name="EventLog" />
    <EventID Qualifiers="32768">6013</EventID>
    <Level>4</Level>
    <Task>0</Task>
    <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
    <TimeCreated SystemTime="2009-03-17T05:03:47.000Z" />
    <EventRecordID>18530</EventRecordID>
    <Channel>System</Channel>
    <Computer>Mooga-Desktop</Computer>
    <Security />
  </System>
  <EventData>
    <Data>
    </Data>
    <Data>
    </Data>
    <Data>
    </Data>
    <Data>
    </Data>
    <Data>44</Data>
    <Data>60</Data>
    <Data>360 Central Standard Time</Data>
    <Binary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inary>
  </EventData>
</Event>

Log Name:      System
Source:        EventLog
Date:          3/17/2009 12:03:47 AM
Event ID:      6005
Task Category: None
Level:         Information
Keywords:      Classic
User:          N/A
Computer:      Mooga-Desktop
Description:
The Event log service was started.
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
  <System>
    <Provider Name="EventLog" />
    <EventID Qualifiers="32768">6005</EventID>
    <Level>4</Level>
    <Task>0</Task>
    <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
    <TimeCreated SystemTime="2009-03-17T05:03:47.000Z" />
    <EventRecordID>18529</EventRecordID>
    <Channel>System</Channel>
    <Computer>Mooga-Desktop</Computer>
    <Security />
  </System>
  <EventData>
    <Binary>D907030002001100050003002F0062030000000000000000</Binary>
  </EventData>
</Event>

Log Name:      System
Source:        EventLog
Date:          3/17/2009 12:03:47 AM
Event ID:      6009
Task Category: None
Level:         Information
Keywords:      Classic
User:          N/A
Computer:      Mooga-Desktop
Description:
Microsoft (R) Windows (R) 6.00. 6001 Service Pack 1 Multiprocessor Free.
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
  <System>
    <Provider Name="EventLog" />
    <EventID Qualifiers="32768">6009</EventID>
    <Level>4</Level>
    <Task>0</Task>
    <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
    <TimeCreated SystemTime="2009-03-17T05:03:47.000Z" />
    <EventRecordID>18528</EventRecordID>
    <Channel>System</Channel>
    <Computer>Mooga-Desktop</Computer>
    <Security />
  </System>
  <EventData>
    <Data>6.00.</Data>
    <Data>6001</Data>
    <Data>Service Pack 1</Data>
    <Data>Multiprocessor Free</Data>
  </EventData>
</Event>

Log Name:      System
Source:        EventLog
Date:          3/17/2009 12:03:47 AM
Event ID:      6008
Task Category: None
Level:         Error
Keywords:      Classic
User:          N/A
Computer:      Mooga-Desktop
Description:
The previous system shutdown at 12:02:32 AM on 3/17/2009 was unexpected.
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
  <System>
    <Provider Name="EventLog" />
    <EventID Qualifiers="32768">6008</EventID>
    <Level>2</Level>
    <Task>0</Task>
    <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
    <TimeCreated SystemTime="2009-03-17T05:03:47.000Z" />
    <EventRecordID>18527</EventRecordID>
    <Channel>System</Channel>
    <Computer>Mooga-Desktop</Computer>
    <Security />
  </System>
  <EventData>
    <Data>12:02:32 AM</Data>
    <Data>3/17/2009</Data>
    <Data>
    </Data>
    <Data>
    </Data>
    <Data>4952</Data>
    <Data>
    </Data>
    <Data>
    </Data>
    <Binary>D9070300020011000000020020006100D9070300020011000500020020006100600900003C000000010000006009000000000000B00400000100000000000000</Binary>
  </EventData>
</Event>

Log Name:      System
Source:        Service Control Manager
Date:          3/16/2009 11:00:39 PM
Event ID:      7036
Task Category: None
Level:         Information
Keywords:      Classic
User:          N/A
Computer:      Mooga-Desktop
Description:
The WinHTTP Web Proxy Auto-Discovery Service service entered the stopped state.
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
  <System>
    <Provider Name="Service Control Manager" Guid="{555908D1-A6D7-4695-8E1E-26931D2012F4}" EventSourceName="Service Control Manager" />
    <EventID Qualifiers="16384">7036</EventID>
    <Version>0</Version>
    <Level>4</Level>
    <Task>0</Task>
    <Opcode>0</Opcode>
    <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
    <TimeCreated SystemTime="2009-03-17T04:00:39.000Z" />
    <EventRecordID>18526</EventRecordID>
    <Correlation />
    <Execution ProcessID="0" ThreadID="0" />
    <Channel>System</Channel>
    <Computer>Mooga-Desktop</Computer>
    <Security />
  </System>
  <EventData>
    <Data Name="param1">WinHTTP Web Proxy Auto-Discovery Service</Data>
    <Data Name="param2">stopped</Data>
  </EventData>
</Event>

Log Name:      System
Source:        Service Control Manager
Date:          3/16/2009 10:44:09 PM
Event ID:      7036
Task Category: None
Level:         Information
Keywords:      Classic
User:          N/A
Computer:      Mooga-Desktop
Description:
The WinHTTP Web Proxy Auto-Discovery Service service entered the running state.
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
  <System>
    <Provider Name="Service Control Manager" Guid="{555908D1-A6D7-4695-8E1E-26931D2012F4}" EventSourceName="Service Control Manager" />
    <EventID Qualifiers="16384">7036</EventID>
    <Version>0</Version>
    <Level>4</Level>
    <Task>0</Task>
    <Opcode>0</Opcode>
    <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
    <TimeCreated SystemTime="2009-03-17T03:44:09.000Z" />
    <EventRecordID>18525</EventRecordID>
    <Correlation />
    <Execution ProcessID="0" ThreadID="0" />
    <Channel>System</Channel>
    <Computer>Mooga-Desktop</Computer>
    <Security />
  </System>
  <EventData>
    <Data Name="param1">WinHTTP Web Proxy Auto-Discovery Service</Data>
    <Data Name="param2">running</Data>
  </EventData>
</Event>

Log Name:      System
Source:        Service Control Manager
Date:          3/16/2009 10:43:23 PM
Event ID:      7036
Task Category: None
Level:         Information
Keywords:      Classic
User:          N/A
Computer:      Mooga-Desktop
Description:
The Windows Update service entered the running state.
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
  <System>
    <Provider Name="Service Control Manager" Guid="{555908D1-A6D7-4695-8E1E-26931D2012F4}" EventSourceName="Service Control Manager" />
    <EventID Qualifiers="16384">7036</EventID>
    <Version>0</Version>
    <Level>4</Level>
    <Task>0</Task>
    <Opcode>0</Opcode>
    <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
    <TimeCreated SystemTime="2009-03-17T03:43:23.000Z" />
    <EventRecordID>18524</EventRecordID>
    <Correlation />
    <Execution ProcessID="0" ThreadID="0" />
    <Channel>System</Channel>
    <Computer>Mooga-Desktop</Computer>
    <Security />
  </System>
  <EventData>
    <Data Name="param1">Windows Update</Data>
    <Data Name="param2">running</Data>
  </EventData>
</Event>

Log Name:      System
Source:        Microsoft-Windows-TBS
Date:          3/16/2009 10:43:22 PM
Event ID:      537
Task Category: None
Level:         Information
Keywords:      
User:          LOCAL SERVICE
Computer:      Mooga-Desktop
Description:
A compatible Trusted Platform Module (TPM) Security Device cannot be found on this computer.  TBS could not be started.
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
  <System>
    <Provider Name="Microsoft-Windows-TBS" Guid="{51480c1a-90aa-416e-98fd-4c11f735349b}" />
    <EventID>537</EventID>
    <Version>0</Version>
    <Level>4</Level>
    <Task>0</Task>
    <Opcode>0</Opcode>
    <Keywords>0x8000000000000000</Keywords>
    <TimeCreated SystemTime="2009-03-17T03:43:22.194Z" />
    <EventRecordID>18523</EventRecordID>
    <Correlation />
    <Execution ProcessID="1148" ThreadID="4352" />
    <Channel>System</Channel>
    <Computer>Mooga-Desktop</Computer>
    <Security UserID="S-1-5-19" />
  </System>
  <EventData>
  </EventData>
</Event>

There are no Application or Security logs timed close to the crash. The closest is about 5+ min before.

Mooga · 03-17-2009, 08:14 PM

It happened again.
I was watching a video on comedycentral.com.
The stuff on my other screen started gliphing before the crash. The sound continued for a few second after the screen froze.

GPU issue?

I was having this while trying to play L4D when I had 64-bit XP.

Shadow00Caster · 03-17-2009, 09:49 PM

are you running any monitoring apps?

also you should try uninstalling your video drivers and sound drivers and reinstall them, even chipset drivers.

Mooga · 03-18-2009, 12:05 AM

When I installed the system i installed the mobo and drivers. I'll try to re-install later... The system is a fresh install of a week or two ago...

Anshinritsumai · 03-18-2009, 03:28 AM

I could be crazy, but couldn't the difference in resolution amongst the two monitors cause some issues amongst display? It is afterall rendering two separate monitors at different resolutions...

Shadow00Caster · 03-19-2009, 02:12 AM

No, you really only notice issues with that when you are doing full screen app stuff.

Mooga · 03-19-2009, 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow00Caster

No, you really only notice issues with that when you are doing full screen app stuff.

Not even. Windows handles it without a problem. Even with my old computer with 100% different hardware I had dual screen of different sizes without any issues.

The secondary screen is older... I hope to replace it with a screen the same as my primary at some point.

Shadow00Caster · 03-20-2009, 11:58 PM

I mean like in full screen on 1 monitor, if the fs app isn't the same res as the desktop res .. itll push shit over onto other monitor until fs closes.

Innoc · 03-21-2009, 01:17 AM

I think you need to start with the basics:

memtest86
hard drive diagnostics
check key temps
Motherboard BIOS current?

Establish that the hardware is fundamentally sound. Next, lock the performance of your GPU so that it is not allowing the application to decide between Performance and Quality. Lock it at Performance. Next, any PATA devices? If so, which? Any front panel USB devices? Can you disconnect their jumper cables from the motherboard for the time being? See if you can establish stability.

Mooga · 03-21-2009, 03:49 AM

What should I use to test temps?
Also, it crashes and glitches without any major aps running.

Recently it hasn't froze. Rather the graphics start to glitch of "freak out." Windows will disappear and stuff. To I restart the system and it works find.

Innoc · 03-21-2009, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mooga

What should I use to test temps?
Also, it crashes and glitches without any major aps running.

Recently it hasn't froze. Rather the graphics start to glitch of "freak out." Windows will disappear and stuff. To I restart the system and it works find.

Well, at the very least you can use the temp monitor in the BIOS to see what the CPU is doing. You can also use SIW to monitor temps however that info is neither persistent nor logged so you'll have to pay attention to it.

Shadow00Caster · 03-23-2009, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mooga

What should I use to test temps?
Also, it crashes and glitches without any major aps running.

Recently it hasn't froze. Rather the graphics start to glitch of "freak out." Windows will disappear and stuff. To I restart the system and it works find.

To test temps, grab speedfan or ntuner, since you are using a nvidia chipset and nvidia gpu.

Mooga · 04-29-2009, 03:25 PM

It ended up it WAS the GPU. I've RMA'd the card and I'm using a spair card that was lent to me. Not a single crash or issues yet. Hopfully the replacment card will work fine

Mulchman MM · 04-29-2009, 05:08 PM

I would say it's because you're running 64 bit Vista. I tried Vista Ultimate 64 bit for about 7 days until it died. Prior to that I had tried XP Pro 64 bit for about a month until it died.

I don't think Windows is ready for 64 bit... which is why I run Ubuntu 64 bit (as there's no way in hell I'm going to give up my 8 gigs of ram to run a 32 bit OS).

My advice - if you really want to use 64 bit Windows - is to use a program like Acronis True Image to make an image of your hard drive right after you install Vista and all the programs you need and then inevitably when it starts to fuck up spend a day re-imaging your hard drive from the existing image you made. Repeat as necessary until Windows 7 comes out and you can give it a try; maybe it'll be more stable.

03-17-2009, 04:52 AM	#1
Mooga Colorless FTW D&A Member Beta Tester Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: A Small Box Affiliations: SRCDS.com Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	Random system freezes? (Vista) My system has been randomly freezing durring use. Once as I exited a game, and once when I was IMing someone (I was highlighting text when it crashed). Any ideas? Or is this just "vista sucks" issues? __________________ ~ Mooga ...w00t? SRCDS.com \| Twitter

03-17-2009, 09:49 AM	#2
Anshinritsumai °_o Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: 127.0.0.1 Class/Position: Medic & Engy Gametype: AvD Affiliations: DM, OC, -[CfH]- Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	The information you present is a bit vague to be quite honest. Can you give us more information? What exactly does your computer do? Does it respond after awhile? Do you have to turn it off and turn it back on? Any sort of error messages or anything? For example, my computer will randomly crash (not freeze, crash) without warning, it's not a BSOD either; screen just goes black and power supply has to be turned off and back on just to get it to run again. __________________ Steam \| Xfire \| Twitter \| Last.FM \| Anime \| DevART

03-17-2009, 08:14 PM	#5
Mooga Colorless FTW D&A Member Beta Tester Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: A Small Box Affiliations: SRCDS.com Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	It happened again. I was watching a video on comedycentral.com. The stuff on my other screen started gliphing before the crash. The sound continued for a few second after the screen froze. GPU issue? I was having this while trying to play L4D when I had 64-bit XP. __________________ ~ Mooga ...w00t? SRCDS.com \| Twitter

03-18-2009, 12:05 AM	#7
Mooga Colorless FTW D&A Member Beta Tester Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: A Small Box Affiliations: SRCDS.com Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	When I installed the system i installed the mobo and drivers. I'll try to re-install later... The system is a fresh install of a week or two ago... __________________ ~ Mooga ...w00t? SRCDS.com \| Twitter

03-18-2009, 03:28 AM	#8
Anshinritsumai °_o Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: 127.0.0.1 Class/Position: Medic & Engy Gametype: AvD Affiliations: DM, OC, -[CfH]- Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I could be crazy, but couldn't the difference in resolution amongst the two monitors cause some issues amongst display? It is afterall rendering two separate monitors at different resolutions... __________________ Steam \| Xfire \| Twitter \| Last.FM \| Anime \| DevART

03-17-2009, 04:54 PM	#3
Shadow00Caster Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jul 2007 Class/Position: D Eng Gametype: Griefing/Spawn Camping Posts Rated Helpful 5 Times	Please post system specs and Application/Security/System Event Logs from the times before and after your crash/freeze.

03-17-2009, 09:49 PM	#6
Shadow00Caster Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jul 2007 Class/Position: D Eng Gametype: Griefing/Spawn Camping Posts Rated Helpful 5 Times	are you running any monitoring apps? also you should try uninstalling your video drivers and sound drivers and reinstall them, even chipset drivers.

03-19-2009, 02:12 AM	#9
Shadow00Caster Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jul 2007 Class/Position: D Eng Gametype: Griefing/Spawn Camping Posts Rated Helpful 5 Times	No, you really only notice issues with that when you are doing full screen app stuff.

03-20-2009, 11:58 PM	#11
Shadow00Caster Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jul 2007 Class/Position: D Eng Gametype: Griefing/Spawn Camping Posts Rated Helpful 5 Times	I mean like in full screen on 1 monitor, if the fs app isn't the same res as the desktop res .. itll push shit over onto other monitor until fs closes.

03-21-2009, 01:17 AM	#12
Innoc Hitman 2 1 Actual Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: "Oscar Mike" Gametype: FPS or RTS (just say NO to MMO) Affiliations: Your Mom Posts Rated Helpful 8 Times	I think you need to start with the basics: memtest86 hard drive diagnostics check key temps Motherboard BIOS current? Establish that the hardware is fundamentally sound. Next, lock the performance of your GPU so that it is not allowing the application to decide between Performance and Quality. Lock it at Performance. Next, any PATA devices? If so, which? Any front panel USB devices? Can you disconnect their jumper cables from the motherboard for the time being? See if you can establish stability.

03-21-2009, 03:49 AM	#13
Mooga Colorless FTW D&A Member Beta Tester Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: A Small Box Affiliations: SRCDS.com Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	What should I use to test temps? Also, it crashes and glitches without any major aps running. Recently it hasn't froze. Rather the graphics start to glitch of "freak out." Windows will disappear and stuff. To I restart the system and it works find. __________________ ~ Mooga ...w00t? SRCDS.com \| Twitter

04-29-2009, 03:25 PM	#16
Mooga Colorless FTW D&A Member Beta Tester Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: A Small Box Affiliations: SRCDS.com Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	It ended up it WAS the GPU. I've RMA'd the card and I'm using a spair card that was lent to me. Not a single crash or issues yet. Hopfully the replacment card will work fine __________________ ~ Mooga ...w00t? SRCDS.com \| Twitter

04-29-2009, 05:08 PM	#17
Mulchman MM Retired FF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lacey, WA Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I would say it's because you're running 64 bit Vista. I tried Vista Ultimate 64 bit for about 7 days until it died. Prior to that I had tried XP Pro 64 bit for about a month until it died. I don't think Windows is ready for 64 bit... which is why I run Ubuntu 64 bit (as there's no way in hell I'm going to give up my 8 gigs of ram to run a 32 bit OS). My advice - if you really want to use 64 bit Windows - is to use a program like Acronis True Image to make an image of your hard drive right after you install Vista and all the programs you need and then inevitably when it starts to fuck up spend a day re-imaging your hard drive from the existing image you made. Repeat as necessary until Windows 7 comes out and you can give it a try; maybe it'll be more stable. __________________ Head of the Orca Revolution (TM)

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