Valve Changes Steam Ids

Scuzzy · 02-18-2009, 04:23 AM

For those of you who may not know, Valve decided to change everyone's steam id in TF2 and DOD last night. Now if you're playing one of those games your steam id will begin with STEAM_1, but if you're playing FF you're steam id may begin with STEAM_0. Things to keep in mind as an admin if you're trying to administer multiple servers and ban lists.

Valve sucks.

Scuzzy

[AE] 82694 · 02-18-2009, 04:39 AM

That's not all they also broke about 5 or 6 OB mods. Stargate the last stand being one I know for sure it broke their client.dll last night.

Rawh · 02-18-2009, 09:42 AM

What would be the reason for that damn change? Bet they didn't say that... God they need to wake up and get that pole out of their a**....

Scuzzy · 02-18-2009, 01:24 PM

No clue, but we ended up standardizing all steam ids in the [o-t] environment. It doesn't matter what engine you're on now, you're steam id is converted to a STEAM_1 account. Let me tell you, that was a pain in the ass. Changing the primary keys for 130k users, all their supporting records in other tables, and the software to enter them into the system was a real pain in the ass. We had to shut all our servers down to do the conversion... Freaking dumbasses.

Scuzzy

Lt Llama · 02-18-2009, 01:41 PM

Does this mean that anyone who plays TF2 or DOD will get their steam id's permanently changed and for all the rest of us it won't? Or do their id's temporary change when connecting to a TF2 or DOD server?

Scuzzy · 02-18-2009, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lt Llama

Does this mean that anyone who plays TF2 or DOD will get their steam id's permanently changed and for all the rest of us it won't? Or do their id's temporary change when connecting to a TF2 or DOD server?

If you have had the ID a while and play a mod like Fortress Forever and your steam id is STEAM_0:1:12345 it will show up as that in a Fortress Forever server. However, if that account also owns TF2 and you go play TF2 your steam id will appear as STEAM_1:1:12345. Steam Friends accounts don't change, as they only use the "1:12345" part of your steam id for that type of translation. There's talk in the donation section of SourceMod of changing the way they report steams ids to just be the "1:12345" piece so that everyone is unique again... something which I would support after last night.

Scuzzy

R22B · 02-18-2009, 04:28 PM

"Rise and shine Mr Freeman. Wake up and... smell.. the ashes."

Lt Llama · 02-18-2009, 06:39 PM

Thx for clearing that up. I got it and read some steam forum L4D and DOD threads. But I havent seen any logic behind the need to do this change.
Some speculate it has to do with SteamCloud. Someone else that they added some new auth server. But can't it also be that the id's are about to run out?
Your idea of storing the 1:12345 part doesnt sound to good. How long can the last number be? Are there any limits? And I wonder if the STEAM_1 part are planned to be part of migration to SteamCloud.

First protocol 48 and now this.

Funny to read

Quote:

Valve firmly believe that game development needs to take place in direct communication with gamers.

here

Is there any secret Valve forum everybody else know about except me where all this communication takes place?

Scuzzy · 02-18-2009, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lt Llama

Thx for clearing that up. I got it and read some steam forum L4D and DOD threads. But I havent seen any logic behind the need to do this change.
Some speculate it has to do with SteamCloud. Someone else that they added some new auth server. But can't it also be that the id's are about to run out?
Your idea of storing the 1:12345 part doesnt sound to good. How long can the last number be? Are there any limits? And I wonder if the STEAM_1 part are planned to be part of migration to SteamCloud.

The largest (length wise) we have is 8 digits in the last number. So, something like STEAM_1:0:12345678. Steam ids are setup as follows:

STEAM_X:Y:Z

X is your universe:

0 Individual / Unspecified,
1 Public
2 Beta
3 Internal
4 Dev
5 RC

Y is the type:

0 Invalid / Unspecified
1 Individual
2 Multiseat
3 GameServer
4 AnonGameServer
5 Pending
6 ContentServer
7 Clan
8 Chat
9 P2P SuperSeeder

Z is just you incremented id.

No idea why they changed the text display of peoples from universe 0 to 1 for specific games now though... Just know it was a pain in my ass.

ensiform · 02-18-2009, 09:01 PM

It sounds like Valve was trying to do some L4D ports to TF2 and forgot to disable the _1 prefix which L4D uses. >.<

Phatman · 02-24-2009, 04:51 PM

Maybe that's why some of my almost completed achievements (not that I care THAT much) were reset and my unlocked stuff got unloaded...

GG Valve.

417 · 02-25-2009, 08:51 PM

The issue still hasn't been resolved for some mods and a second fix (to get rid of the invalid steam key size error) was suppose to be released last night but of course wasn't.

This kind of wreck less patch/updates cycle has always been an issue and probably always will

Pixel · 02-25-2009, 11:52 PM

Edit: nvm

why the hell did I just get that update today?

02-18-2009, 04:23 AM	#1
Scuzzy The Old Timers Clan D&A Member Retired FF Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Server: 206.217.134.170:27016 Posts Rated Helpful 2 Times	Valve Changes Steam Ids For those of you who may not know, Valve decided to change everyone's steam id in TF2 and DOD last night. Now if you're playing one of those games your steam id will begin with STEAM_1, but if you're playing FF you're steam id may begin with STEAM_0. Things to keep in mind as an admin if you're trying to administer multiple servers and ban lists. Valve sucks. Scuzzy __________________ "Player Quality, not Quantity, is what we strive for." - The LLama Wrangler "A clan is defined by the nature of it's enemies. - The Llama Wrangler

02-18-2009, 04:39 AM	#2
[AE] 82694 Retired FF Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	That's not all they also broke about 5 or 6 OB mods. Stargate the last stand being one I know for sure it broke their client.dll last night. __________________ I Love GenghisTron . I miss you sooooo Much. LOL.

02-18-2009, 01:24 PM	#4
Scuzzy The Old Timers Clan D&A Member Retired FF Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Server: 206.217.134.170:27016 Posts Rated Helpful 2 Times	No clue, but we ended up standardizing all steam ids in the [o-t] environment. It doesn't matter what engine you're on now, you're steam id is converted to a STEAM_1 account. Let me tell you, that was a pain in the ass. Changing the primary keys for 130k users, all their supporting records in other tables, and the software to enter them into the system was a real pain in the ass. We had to shut all our servers down to do the conversion... Freaking dumbasses. Scuzzy __________________ "Player Quality, not Quantity, is what we strive for." - The LLama Wrangler "A clan is defined by the nature of it's enemies. - The Llama Wrangler

02-18-2009, 09:01 PM	#10
ensiform Time Lord, Doctor Beta Tester Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: The TARDIS Class/Position: Engineer Gametype: CTF Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	It sounds like Valve was trying to do some L4D ports to TF2 and forgot to disable the _1 prefix which L4D uses. >.< __________________ Open Fortress Developer TrashedGamers.com - Root Access Admin

02-25-2009, 08:51 PM	#12
417 SGM Division ****** Wiki Team Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Class/Position: Defensive Gametype: Capture The Flag Affiliations: [SG-X] Clan - http://www.sg-x.info Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	The issue still hasn't been resolved for some mods and a second fix (to get rid of the invalid steam key size error) was suppose to be released last night but of course wasn't. This kind of wreck less patch/updates cycle has always been an issue and probably always will __________________ [SG-X] Clan - SGM Division leader ICQ #: 154706095 * E-mail * IRC: irc.gamesurge.net #sgm & #[sg-x]

02-18-2009, 09:42 AM	#3
Rawh FF Whiner Server Owner Beta Tester Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Chair.. sometimes a couch Class/Position: D Engy, D Soldier Gametype: Capture the Flag Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	What would be the reason for that damn change? Bet they didn't say that... God they need to wake up and get that pole out of their a**....

02-18-2009, 01:41 PM	#5
Lt Llama Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Does this mean that anyone who plays TF2 or DOD will get their steam id's permanently changed and for all the rest of us it won't? Or do their id's temporary change when connecting to a TF2 or DOD server?

02-18-2009, 04:28 PM	#7
R22B Join Date: Sep 2008 Class/Position: Sniper / Defensive Gametype: Capture the Flag Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	"Rise and shine Mr Freeman. Wake up and... smell.. the ashes."

02-24-2009, 04:51 PM	#11
Phatman n00bsauce Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Tucson, AZ Class/Position: Soldier/Pyro/ThatOneJerk Gametype: Anything that involves killing Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	Maybe that's why some of my almost completed achievements (not that I care THAT much) were reset and my unlocked stuff got unloaded... GG Valve.

02-25-2009, 11:52 PM	#13
Pixel if(0>1){printf("broked");} Beta Tester Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Amerika Class/Position: O Posts Rated Helpful 3 Times	Edit: nvm why the hell did I just get that update today?

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