FF_Dropdown: Intended issue?

Firefox11 · 08-21-2008, 11:05 AM

This is something that has been bugging me for a few days now. It's intended that you can get the enemy flag even when the Security is up by flametrimping/grenade/conc/pipe/rocketjumping from the lower level? It feels a bit odd that there's no door or lasers in the lower part of the "tunnel" to prevent this.

GambiT · 08-21-2008, 12:05 PM

shhhhhhhhh, now they know how i get it, sob....

lol...

pF · 08-21-2008, 01:48 PM

Well, it's not too easy, so..

Sh4x · 08-21-2008, 01:49 PM

Yeah... the "issue" you're mentioning is actually a "feature" and was designed this way for these reasons:

1. It prevents D stacking at the security button. If the flag was completely "locked" inside the cage, it would be tempting to just put all the D you can in the security button area and ignore the rest of the base. The way it is now, your team is forced to spread the D around.

2. It promotes the learning of flametrimping/grenade/conc/pipe/rocketjumping because those who bother learning these skills get an advantage.

3. It keeps the defense on their toes because even when security is up there's a chance that someone in flag room could grab your flag if you're not careful. Defense shouldn't leave flag room unattended when flag is in cage. If they do, it makes it alot easier for offense to grab the flag. But the fact that the flag is in a small cage and that you gotta go straight up to grab it makes it easy for anyone on defense who's in flag room to block you from grabbing it.

pF · 08-21-2008, 01:52 PM

It makes the map more open and fun than a laser-blocked lower access version would be

Firefox11 · 08-21-2008, 02:04 PM

Ok, thanks.

Now this thread can be locked since it's been answered.

08-21-2008, 11:05 AM	#1
Firefox11 Join Date: Dec 2007 Class/Position: O&D: Pyro, Sniper Gametype: AvD Affiliations: FF.AvD [FF AvD/ID guild] Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	FF_Dropdown: Intended issue? This is something that has been bugging me for a few days now. It's intended that you can get the enemy flag even when the Security is up by flametrimping/grenade/conc/pipe/rocketjumping from the lower level? It feels a bit odd that there's no door or lasers in the lower part of the "tunnel" to prevent this.

08-21-2008, 12:05 PM	#2
GambiT Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Baton Rouge Class/Position: Spy Affiliations: -=DoM=- Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	shhhhhhhhh, now they know how i get it, sob.... lol... __________________ -------------------------------FF_Rock2(WIP)------------------------------ ---------------------------FF_RedGiant(Released)------------------------- --------------------------FF_Fragzone_G(Released)------------------------ --------------------------FF_Civibash_G(Released)------------------------ -------------------FF_Conc_G1(WIP)-------------------- -------------------FF_Hollow_G(WIP)---------------------

08-21-2008, 01:48 PM	#3
pF no war but class war Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: big bad berlin Class/Position: Soldier / Scout Gametype: ctf Affiliations: [w~k!] Posts Rated Helpful 3 Times	Well, it's not too easy, so.. __________________ Support FF: Gay And Lesbian Fiction \| Teen Books \| Bath Products

08-21-2008, 01:52 PM	#5
pF no war but class war Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: big bad berlin Class/Position: Soldier / Scout Gametype: ctf Affiliations: [w~k!] Posts Rated Helpful 3 Times	It makes the map more open and fun than a laser-blocked lower access version would be __________________ Support FF: Gay And Lesbian Fiction \| Teen Books \| Bath Products

08-21-2008, 01:49 PM	#4
Sh4x Retired FF Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Yeah... the "issue" you're mentioning is actually a "feature" and was designed this way for these reasons: 1. It prevents D stacking at the security button. If the flag was completely "locked" inside the cage, it would be tempting to just put all the D you can in the security button area and ignore the rest of the base. The way it is now, your team is forced to spread the D around. 2. It promotes the learning of flametrimping/grenade/conc/pipe/rocketjumping because those who bother learning these skills get an advantage. 3. It keeps the defense on their toes because even when security is up there's a chance that someone in flag room could grab your flag if you're not careful. Defense shouldn't leave flag room unattended when flag is in cage. If they do, it makes it alot easier for offense to grab the flag. But the fact that the flag is in a small cage and that you gotta go straight up to grab it makes it easy for anyone on defense who's in flag room to block you from grabbing it.

08-21-2008, 02:04 PM	#6
Firefox11 Join Date: Dec 2007 Class/Position: O&D: Pyro, Sniper Gametype: AvD Affiliations: FF.AvD [FF AvD/ID guild] Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Ok, thanks. Now this thread can be locked since it's been answered.

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