ff_waterhazard (Warpath style) - Page 2

nodnarb · 11-23-2007, 02:46 AM

Nope, not at all. The flag just indicates which team owns the point. 2 and 4 are on some bridges.

**Crazycarl** · 11-23-2007, 02:50 AM

No, you don't pick up any flags. Your team has to touch each cp in order. The second point is on a raised catwalk, so it's easy to miss.

There are a few things that bother me about this map. The lighting is ugly. Everything looks yellow-green and nasty. There's a visible red sun, but there doesn't seem to be any red light coming from it. Also the map is kind of claustrophobic. It's mostly tall, narrow square corridors. All the debris that's laying around makes this worse. It's not as bad as Epicenter, though. I don't like all the barriers that necessitate assisted jumps. It seems like it will be really frustrating trying to climb up to command points 2 and 4 while under fire. There's a ladder before the final cp, next to a dock prop that's really hard to climb. Even without people shooting at me I had trouble getting up there. I would get rid of these annoying barriers. If the map plays too fast, make the route longer so that the defense has more time to stop attackers.

All this is just from a quick runaround, so maybe there's stuff I missed or that I just have to get used to. Maybe it will play brilliantly. I hope to see it on the servers.

Stuff I like: hey, it's warpath, and the more non-ctf maps the better. Also, it has a good theme. The same old fort architecture gets a bit old after a while.

[AE] 82694 · 11-23-2007, 04:55 AM

I believe you need to create a .res file to tell the server to send the custom texture files and your loading screens. I just put the map my little home test server. I purposely left the files out of my game files so I can check dl (I run fast dl bz2 format for AE Server). so I noticed that it didn't dl the dirt path texture or the loading screens. Get it to do that and I'll put it up on the AE Server and see what kind of play it gets.

shadow · 11-23-2007, 05:26 AM

use bspzip for custom textures and just embed them into the bsp itself.
this does not work for loading screens.

Pon · 11-23-2007, 09:25 AM

Is it just me, or does anyone else enjoy the confusion non-ctf maps seem to generate when people who seemingly haven't played anything but ctf try them?

Always makes me smile for some reason...

Anyways, for those not familiar with the warpath style of play, here's a quick run down of the map:

2 teams
5 command points (each team starts with their first cp owned)
Capture points in sequence (typically blue 1 through 5, red 5 through 1) - no flag required
Flag on CP denotes ownership status only (no flag - not owned yet)
Newly captured points disabled from enemy capture for 15 seconds
All points captured - round resets

Scoring:
200 fortpoints per individual cp
1000 fortpoints/30 teampoints for final

HUD:
Shows CP ownership and disabled status

Mongoose · 11-23-2007, 11:25 AM

Ok, sorry about that RES file issue, have now updated zip to include res file...

Also updated links.

Once you work out it's warpath style, it becomes v simple... I think you'll find alot of trimping possible, and easy to get upto cmd 2 / 4 because of all the slopes to bounce off and up... Just play around and you can really have some fun

Mongoose · 11-23-2007, 08:40 PM

all sorted

Nezumi · 11-24-2007, 02:04 AM

I hate when peopel wander around looking bored then dismiss the map because they can't be bothered to figure out the new game type.

I mean, a warpath style map should be easy enough, but sometimes you really gotta cram the necessary information down a players throat.

Fortunately, being able to put dynamic icons on the hud, and give players spawn messages and stuff really helps with that.

Dr.Satan · 11-24-2007, 02:21 AM

use the loading screen to your advantage...explain the map as best you can there so that people know what they are joining!

Mongoose · 11-25-2007, 10:54 AM

New loading screen implemented

[AE] 82694 · 11-25-2007, 03:40 PM

Do I need to download the whole zip again or do you just have the loading screen?

Mongoose · 11-25-2007, 03:53 PM

just a new loading screen... BSP is the same (if you want it just ldoad again, file isn't very big)

For servers make sure you have the .res file I've included

Lets arrange a play sometime

Dr.Satan · 11-26-2007, 12:32 AM

I'm down...just let me know when and where!

Desyphur · 12-06-2007, 08:23 PM

I played it and wasn't very happy with how easy it was for a solly to cap the last two points. He can cap it before the opposing team can cap point 2/4

11-23-2007, 04:55 AM	#23
[AE] 82694 Retired FF Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I believe you need to create a .res file to tell the server to send the custom texture files and your loading screens. I just put the map my little home test server. I purposely left the files out of my game files so I can check dl (I run fast dl bz2 format for AE Server). so I noticed that it didn't dl the dirt path texture or the loading screens. Get it to do that and I'll put it up on the AE Server and see what kind of play it gets. __________________ I Love GenghisTron . I miss you sooooo Much. LOL.

11-23-2007, 09:25 AM	#25
Pon Not choking. Yet. Lua Team Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Scotland Class/Position: Demo/Def - Spy/Off Gametype: Anything but yet more fucking CTF Affiliations: FF.AvD [FF AvD/ID guild] Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Is it just me, or does anyone else enjoy the confusion non-ctf maps seem to generate when people who seemingly haven't played anything but ctf try them? Always makes me smile for some reason... Anyways, for those not familiar with the warpath style of play, here's a quick run down of the map: 2 teams 5 command points (each team starts with their first cp owned) Capture points in sequence (typically blue 1 through 5, red 5 through 1) - no flag required Flag on CP denotes ownership status only (no flag - not owned yet) Newly captured points disabled from enemy capture for 15 seconds All points captured - round resets Scoring: 200 fortpoints per individual cp 1000 fortpoints/30 teampoints for final HUD: Shows CP ownership and disabled status __________________ Support FF: YOU GUYS REALLY SHOULD UPDATE YOUR STAFF LIST! I haven't posted since 2010... Preferable to death. But only just... -\ff_basicbowl\|ff_duckhunt\|ff_rock2_qnd\|ff_vats_koth/-

11-24-2007, 02:04 AM	#28
Nezumi Retired FF Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: The Peoples Republic of Harmfull Free Radicals. Class/Position: Soldier, O Gametype: Doubble Mode Affiliations: Cassiotone Nation Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	I hate when peopel wander around looking bored then dismiss the map because they can't be bothered to figure out the new game type. I mean, a warpath style map should be easy enough, but sometimes you really gotta cram the necessary information down a players throat. Fortunately, being able to put dynamic icons on the hud, and give players spawn messages and stuff really helps with that. __________________ TG: pretty much you have no idea how much i fuckin own at this game. TG: i bested no less than three flaming tornados and broke a huge wizard.

11-24-2007, 02:21 AM	#29
Dr.Satan Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Greeley, CO Class/Position: Med / Solly Gametype: PAYLOAD Affiliations: DET- Posts Rated Helpful 19 Times	use the loading screen to your advantage...explain the map as best you can there so that people know what they are joining! __________________ FF Community Map Pack(s): 1 / 2 (Released) conc_school \| hellion_classic \| ksour_PAYLOAD \| mulch_faf (Beta) alchimy_b1 (Lua) base_payload_2015 (Models) props_trainyard Support FF:

11-25-2007, 03:40 PM	#31
[AE] 82694 Retired FF Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Do I need to download the whole zip again or do you just have the loading screen? __________________ I Love GenghisTron . I miss you sooooo Much. LOL.

11-23-2007, 02:46 AM	#21
nodnarb Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 5 Times	Nope, not at all. The flag just indicates which team owns the point. 2 and 4 are on some bridges.

11-23-2007, 02:50 AM	#22
Crazycarl D&A Member Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 31 Times	No, you don't pick up any flags. Your team has to touch each cp in order. The second point is on a raised catwalk, so it's easy to miss. There are a few things that bother me about this map. The lighting is ugly. Everything looks yellow-green and nasty. There's a visible red sun, but there doesn't seem to be any red light coming from it. Also the map is kind of claustrophobic. It's mostly tall, narrow square corridors. All the debris that's laying around makes this worse. It's not as bad as Epicenter, though. I don't like all the barriers that necessitate assisted jumps. It seems like it will be really frustrating trying to climb up to command points 2 and 4 while under fire. There's a ladder before the final cp, next to a dock prop that's really hard to climb. Even without people shooting at me I had trouble getting up there. I would get rid of these annoying barriers. If the map plays too fast, make the route longer so that the defense has more time to stop attackers. All this is just from a quick runaround, so maybe there's stuff I missed or that I just have to get used to. Maybe it will play brilliantly. I hope to see it on the servers. Stuff I like: hey, it's warpath, and the more non-ctf maps the better. Also, it has a good theme. The same old fort architecture gets a bit old after a while.

11-23-2007, 05:26 AM	#24
shadow Retired FF Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	use bspzip for custom textures and just embed them into the bsp itself. this does not work for loading screens.

11-23-2007, 11:25 AM	#26
Mongoose Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Ok, sorry about that RES file issue, have now updated zip to include res file... Also updated links. Once you work out it's warpath style, it becomes v simple... I think you'll find alot of trimping possible, and easy to get upto cmd 2 / 4 because of all the slopes to bounce off and up... Just play around and you can really have some fun

11-23-2007, 08:40 PM	#27
Mongoose Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	all sorted

11-25-2007, 10:54 AM	#30
Mongoose Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	New loading screen implemented

11-25-2007, 03:53 PM	#32
Mongoose Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	just a new loading screen... BSP is the same (if you want it just ldoad again, file isn't very big) For servers make sure you have the .res file I've included Lets arrange a play sometime

11-26-2007, 12:32 AM	#33
Dr.Satan Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Greeley, CO Class/Position: Med / Solly Gametype: PAYLOAD Affiliations: DET- Posts Rated Helpful 19 Times	I'm down...just let me know when and where! __________________ FF Community Map Pack(s): 1 / 2 (Released) conc_school \| hellion_classic \| ksour_PAYLOAD \| mulch_faf (Beta) alchimy_b1 (Lua) base_payload_2015 (Models) props_trainyard Support FF:

12-06-2007, 08:23 PM	#34
Desyphur OHH! OHHH NOOO! Wiki Team Beta Tester Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I played it and wasn't very happy with how easy it was for a solly to cap the last two points. He can cap it before the opposing team can cap point 2/4 __________________ What was left of my sanity implored me not to enter...but that voice was just a whisper now.

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