Stats - Questions

[Iggy]

Originally Posted by SkynYrd

I'm fully aware of this... I spent the early years of my TFC "career" (read: 1999-2002) doing practically nothing but playing on 24-hour 2fort servers over and over, and it was a blast. I hated bhop, concing, etc. and thought they were expliots.... until one day somone introduced me to the clan/league community. WOW was I taken aback at what I saw. I came to realize though (and this is just my personal opinion) that this was FAR superior to anything I had ever done before in TFC. First of all, the game made more sense... no longer was I running around killing 10 year olds on the same map all day... I had a purpose, a concrete reason to improve. At the same time I realized that bhop/concs/etc were VITAL to this style of play, and it hit me that THIS was what made TFC so great... the myriad of unique skills to learn. So what I'm trying to say is, I will forever hate servers like Drippy's that prevent bhop, because in doing so they are fundamentally altering the game in a way that takes freedom from those who spent a LOT of time mastering these SKILLS (regardless of whether or not they were intended by Valve... they dont have a CLUE what goes on in the upper echelons of leage play... they dont know their own fucking game and would get thoroughly schooled at it now). All day 2fort and shit like that is just so far away from my current perspective of the game... I cannot respect it anymore, sorry. If it were not for bhop and all the other advanced movement skills and tactics, I would have quit this game a long time ago (and I think I speak for more than just myself).

Drippy's is a pub server. Bhop is limited for several reasons...one of which being that most people don't actually do it themselves....they run scripts to do it. Might as well press a button and let the game play for you. Talk about boring.
I've done the league thing, and enjoyed the hell out of it. I am not in it now, due to my work schedule and the fact that the leagues are in shambles(from what I hear)... are there any left playing?
Pub'ing can be fun, but you need the right mindset for it.
I like Drippy's mainly because of the community around it. There are a lot of fun people there, and yeah...a few assholes. I do play elsewhere, but if I'm up for 2fort.....you know where I will be.
Especially on days when Friendly Fire is on.

[Etzell]

Scripted bhop (without _special) is NOT pushing a button and having the game run itself. It's simply a series of jump commands. Like hammering a button, without the hammer. The actual hard part of bhop, manipulating air control, is STILL manual.

[Circuitous]

I can't wait 'til FF's stats setup gets put in properly.

[SkynYrd]

Etzell basically made my point already. Scripted bhop is nowhere CLOSE to "pushing a button and letting the game play itself." The script everyone uses now is nothing more than adding a few extra jump commands... the SAME thing can be accomplished by simply binding jump to the mousewheel... but since noone is gonna change their controls around, the script was made to accomodate default controls and however else anyone wants to play. I hardly see how this can be considered an exploit, and also... just getting the jump timing is only the beginning of bhop... what about proper air control and keeping a good top speed without hitting the cap? These things all must be learned, and people who complain about it being an exploit are in denial that they can't do it well.

Oh, and the STA is still doing just fine... league play is not "in shambles"

That's nice, is that all custom written PHP scripting?

[Scuzzy]

Originally Posted by DogGunn

That's nice, is that all custom written PHP scripting?

who's link?

Originally Posted by Scuzzy

who's link?

Ha, your one, in the opening post?

[Scuzzy]

Originally Posted by DogGunn

Ha, your one, in the opening post?

Ah, it's mostly CSS scripting with a bit of php. Vbulletin makes page generation very easy, to keep the site with the same look and layout. I've been thinking of redoing that entire page, reworking some of the backend. It calculates a lot of crap out right now, i'll probably aggregate a lot of those mini-forms, make it load faster.