Constant Rotating Button

o_imbrifer · 10-14-2006, 04:58 AM

So I didn't know what else to call this, but Constant Rotating Button. What I need to know how to do:

As you rotate the button, the door lifts. If you let go of the button half way, then the door is only lifted halfway. If you rotate the button all the way, the door opens all the way (and activates an env_beam).

I know how to do a func_rot_button (or whatever) so you just hit 'use' once to turn it all the way, but how do I make it incremental, so you have to hold down 'use' until the door opens all the way?

Anyone know?

Circuitous · 10-14-2006, 05:36 AM

Decompile one of those canal maps! They use something like that. Except they fall back down.

o_imbrifer · 10-14-2006, 05:49 AM

Fall back down is fine. I don't know which canal map had this,.. can anyone point me in the right direction? Or better yet, just refer me to a tutorial or an entity? I've snooped around the tutorial sites to no avail..

Circuitous · 10-14-2006, 06:13 AM

d1_canals_05

o_a boojum snark · 10-14-2006, 07:43 AM

momentary_rot_button linked to a func_movelinear I believe.
I'm not sure about the locking when it goes all the way, I haven't messed with these things in years (and they've probably changed slightly in Source).

o_nezumi · 10-14-2006, 10:32 PM

I've always meant to play around with these but never bothered to figure out how to make them. It'd be cool to have a TF map with one of these you have to operate. I remember an SI map where one player had to hold open one of these doors for a teammate to get at some breakable in the enemy base.

o_kam · 10-15-2006, 02:12 AM

they appear quite a bit in escape maps

o_nodnarb · 10-15-2006, 03:44 AM

k_thegame_r

o_etzell · 10-15-2006, 08:19 PM

I hate those damned doors.

o_stino · 10-17-2006, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A Boojum Snark

momentary_rot_button linked to a func_movelinear I believe.
I'm not sure about the locking when it goes all the way, I haven't messed with these things in years (and they've probably changed slightly in Source).

func_movelinear is an object wich operates on it's own, its used by valve to make the elevator platforms in the citadel. Btn push > start and go to end.

in halflife it was momentary_door and momentary_rot_button, or 2 momentary_rot_Buttons of it was a rotating door i thought, but i'm not sure about that or the name of the door, it was something LIKE that

o_imbrifer · 10-17-2006, 10:11 PM

You use a momentary_rot_button and a func_movelinear.

2 outputs on the momentary_rot_button:
Onpressed func_movelinear Open
Onunpressed func_movelinear close

Only thing left is to make sure that they both move at corresponding speeds and for corresponding distances (dont want to keep turning the wheel after the door is open, etc).

b'zam

o_a boojum snark · 10-17-2006, 10:12 PM

Hmm, I see. I remembered it was momentary_door in goldsource, and since I didn't find that I assumed it was movelinear since it was new, and since func_door and func_plat already move linearly, I figured it must be something special. ah well, eventually I'll learn all this source stuff.

o_leandros · 10-18-2006, 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nodnarb

k_thegame_r

Where?

o_nodnarb · 10-18-2006, 02:59 AM

sorry k_thegame2_r
in the end after you shoot the crystals

o_leandros · 10-19-2006, 03:33 PM

Yeah, I know of those

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**mervaka** · 10-21-2006, 12:04 AM

are you sure such a slow door is suitable for a TF map? (assuming it's for FF)

o_nezumi · 10-23-2006, 05:28 AM

It'd be cool if it took a really long time for it to close. So if one person died trying to open it someone else could run up and keep trying without it slamming shut first.

Or people could just duck under before it's all the way opened/closed.

o_imbrifer · 10-23-2006, 08:11 PM

It takes 5 seconds to raise, 5 seconds to lower - and believe me, if it was any longer the objectives would never get capped.

You'll understand soon...

o_nezumi · 10-28-2006, 12:40 PM

You know what's stupid? Momentary_buttons can output their position as a value between 0 (fully closed) and 1 (fully open), AND take an input value along that same range to move or teleport to, BUT func_movelinears will only take an input. They won't output their position. Why?

This is what I hate about mapping. All the stupid little inconsistencies that don't make any sense.

10-14-2006, 04:58 AM	#1
o_imbrifer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Changes every few months Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Constant Rotating Button So I didn't know what else to call this, but Constant Rotating Button. What I need to know how to do: As you rotate the button, the door lifts. If you let go of the button half way, then the door is only lifted halfway. If you rotate the button all the way, the door opens all the way (and activates an env_beam). I know how to do a func_rot_button (or whatever) so you just hit 'use' once to turn it all the way, but how do I make it incremental, so you have to hold down 'use' until the door opens all the way? Anyone know?

10-14-2006, 05:36 AM	#2
Circuitous Useless Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jun 2005 Class/Position: D Soldier, O Scout Gametype: AvD Posts Rated Helpful 9 Times	Decompile one of those canal maps! They use something like that. Except they fall back down. __________________ Look at all those dead links.

10-14-2006, 06:13 AM	#4
Circuitous Useless Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jun 2005 Class/Position: D Soldier, O Scout Gametype: AvD Posts Rated Helpful 9 Times	d1_canals_05 __________________ Look at all those dead links.

10-21-2006, 12:04 AM	#16
mervaka A Very Sound Guy! Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: May 2005 Location: UK Posts Rated Helpful 15 Times	are you sure such a slow door is suitable for a TF map? (assuming it's for FF) __________________ Support FF:

10-14-2006, 05:49 AM	#3
o_imbrifer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Changes every few months Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Fall back down is fine. I don't know which canal map had this,.. can anyone point me in the right direction? Or better yet, just refer me to a tutorial or an entity? I've snooped around the tutorial sites to no avail..

10-14-2006, 07:43 AM	#5
o_a boojum snark Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Orion Arm Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	momentary_rot_button linked to a func_movelinear I believe. I'm not sure about the locking when it goes all the way, I haven't messed with these things in years (and they've probably changed slightly in Source).

10-14-2006, 10:32 PM	#6
o_nezumi Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Peoples Republic of Harmfull Free Radicals Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I've always meant to play around with these but never bothered to figure out how to make them. It'd be cool to have a TF map with one of these you have to operate. I remember an SI map where one player had to hold open one of these doors for a teammate to get at some breakable in the enemy base.

10-15-2006, 02:12 AM	#7
o_kam Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melbourne Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	they appear quite a bit in escape maps

10-15-2006, 03:44 AM	#8
o_nodnarb Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Austin, Texas Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	k_thegame_r

10-15-2006, 08:19 PM	#9
o_etzell Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I hate those damned doors.

10-17-2006, 10:11 PM	#11
o_imbrifer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Changes every few months Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	You use a momentary_rot_button and a func_movelinear. 2 outputs on the momentary_rot_button: Onpressed func_movelinear Open Onunpressed func_movelinear close Only thing left is to make sure that they both move at corresponding speeds and for corresponding distances (dont want to keep turning the wheel after the door is open, etc). b'zam

10-17-2006, 10:12 PM	#12
o_a boojum snark Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Orion Arm Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Hmm, I see. I remembered it was momentary_door in goldsource, and since I didn't find that I assumed it was movelinear since it was new, and since func_door and func_plat already move linearly, I figured it must be something special. ah well, eventually I'll learn all this source stuff.

10-18-2006, 02:59 AM	#14
o_nodnarb Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Austin, Texas Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	sorry k_thegame2_r in the end after you shoot the crystals

10-19-2006, 03:33 PM	#15
o_leandros Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dutchelandae Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Yeah, I know of those .

10-23-2006, 05:28 AM	#17
o_nezumi Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Peoples Republic of Harmfull Free Radicals Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	It'd be cool if it took a really long time for it to close. So if one person died trying to open it someone else could run up and keep trying without it slamming shut first. Or people could just duck under before it's all the way opened/closed.

10-23-2006, 08:11 PM	#18
o_imbrifer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Changes every few months Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	It takes 5 seconds to raise, 5 seconds to lower - and believe me, if it was any longer the objectives would never get capped. You'll understand soon...

10-28-2006, 12:40 PM	#19
o_nezumi Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Peoples Republic of Harmfull Free Radicals Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	You know what's stupid? Momentary_buttons can output their position as a value between 0 (fully closed) and 1 (fully open), AND take an input value along that same range to move or teleport to, BUT func_movelinears will only take an input. They won't output their position. Why? This is what I hate about mapping. All the stupid little inconsistencies that don't make any sense.

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