Any Mappers without a project?

o_catzeyes93 · 08-08-2005, 02:49 PM

I am pretty sure I brought this up a LONG time ago, and it got nowhere. So, I thought I would try one last time JUST in case we have a mapper without a project.

How about a 2fortmirror? Where the base is exactly like the existing 2fort, however instead of running to the right to get to the ramp room, you run to the left. Instead of going left to get to the water spiral you turn right. Outside is obviously the same, but inside everything is switched.

Great idea? Stupid idea? What do you guys think?

o_imbrifer · 08-08-2005, 04:32 PM

I don't know CatzEyes, a project like that would be a ton of work and the end result would be basically something the FF team will make better (only mirrored). At least that's how I feel about it.

o_frenchtoast · 08-08-2005, 05:50 PM

Why?

Defrag · 08-08-2005, 06:12 PM

Sounds like a pointless exercise to me.

o_yohan1973 · 08-08-2005, 09:13 PM

Here's an Idea for you....How about someone sketching up an original map and post scans of the sketches. Then have a mock bid inwhich the best mapper interested would gain the rite to build the map and promis to add design "props" to the sketch artist...

o_catzeyes93 · 08-08-2005, 10:29 PM

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I don't know CatzEyes, a project like that would be a ton of work and the end result would be basically something the FF team will make better (only mirrored). At least that's how I feel about it.

I know it would be a lot of work, and I can appreciate your generous assessment. But there are currently a lot of people working on maps right now that are also a lot of work... I was just curious to find out if anyone wanted to build a map that seemingly hasnt been done before that would probably become popular.

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Why?

Because if you go and look at the servers currently in play, you will find TONS of servers that regularly have 2fort in the rotation. This tells me that a lot of people like 2fort. This tells me that if they see a 2fort like map on a server, they may join to see what it looks and feels like. It would add a twist to the same ole friggin map that we all tolerate but has now become new due to the switcheroo.

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Sounds like a pointless exercise to me.

Why would this be pointless? FF is creating maps, FF is redoing the existing maps, and others are creating many other maps. Are you saying that all of the folks creating maps outside of the FF devteam is pointless?

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Here's an Idea for you....How about someone sketching up an original map and post scans of the sketches. Then have a mock bid inwhich the best mapper interested would gain the rite to build the map and promis to add design "props" to the sketch artist...

Is that sarcasm?

It was only a suggestion made for those that know mapping but are not currently working on one. I was in no way suggesting we replace the exististing FF 2fort to this layout. And in my opinion I would hope we WOULDNT change the 2fort layout for FF.

Again folks... it was just a suggestion. Judging by the response so far, I guess we hate the idea.

Circuitous · 08-08-2005, 11:58 PM

...I can't speak for anyone else, but if I saw a "2fort" map and it was just 2fort turned backwards, I think I'd be rightly pissed off.

o_nezumi · 08-09-2005, 04:51 AM

If decompilers decompiled maps back to exactly how they were originally, I'd decompile then flip 2fort just for fun.

Then I'd go kill whoever made a decompiler that can so easily rip off my work.

I wouldn't want to spend any more time on it than that though.

o_jared-tm- · 08-09-2005, 05:16 AM

Meh, I say open up Hammer and go for it if you want. It's not the best idea and I think the work put into it could go into something better. Have you played around with VHE before?

o_robg · 08-09-2005, 08:46 AM

Just get whoever is making 2fort (defrag?) to flip it and make -2fort.

o_catzeyes93 · 08-09-2005, 12:41 PM

I know nothing of mapping and dont have the time to spend learning. (I am of the older generation that has a family) I wish I did, but I dont. I know someone a couple of years ago tried to do it the 'easy' way by just 'flipping' it like you guys said, but they found it was not as easy as it seemed. So basically it WOULD need to be made from scratch. The idea of calling it -2fort is probably a good choice, but again it would seem the overall idea is not a popular one. Oh well... I know I would think it would be fun... but no one seems to want to take it on. Thanks for the constructive critsizm folks!

o_loader · 08-09-2005, 12:57 PM

Would be a bit stupid imo..

I'd goto the entrance and go left.. wait, right.. er??

Then I'd play 2fort, and go left, thinking I was supposed to.. but then.. ermm..

People will be confused, like me

o_yohan1973 · 08-09-2005, 02:07 PM

[quote="CatzEyes93"]

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Here's an Idea for you....How about someone sketching up an original map and post scans of the sketches. Then have a mock bid inwhich the best mapper interested would gain the rite to build the map and promis to add design "props" to the sketch artist...

Is that sarcasm?

It was only a suggestion made for those that know mapping but are not currently working on one. I was in no way suggesting we replace the exististing FF 2fort to this layout. And in my opinion I would hope we WOULDNT change the 2fort layout for FF.

Again folks... it was just a suggestion. Judging by the response so far, I guess we hate the idea.

No, sorry if it came off as such. Like yours...mine was just an Idea. I just used your thread as a way to throw it out there. I figured that while you were under attack I'd sneak mine in under the radar of those folk who are verbally critizing you! lol It's not that your idea is a bad idea...I think it simply the fact that it's YOUR idea. You know how people are. We all have questionable ideas that others might not be too keen of....unless ofcourse it was theirs! Ya' feel me?

o_yohan1973 · 08-09-2005, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by CatzEyes93

(I am of the older generation that has a family)

Yeah old man! No body told you to ruin your life with a wife and kids! Dump them and start mapping instead, you'll live longer! lol
Naw, I'm kidding ofcourse...I'm old too! No kids....just old! I was currious though about how many more "old folk" are here too. Might have to start a thread for us Old-folk to talk about our glory days in the 80's and gaming on an Atari 2600! lol

o_frenchtoast · 08-09-2005, 03:33 PM

I know, make two more identical bases, and then extend the bridges, then make a huge cross in the middle and make it 4fort, that would kick soooo much ass.

o_etzell · 08-09-2005, 05:42 PM

I don't think it's legal for Catz to have a wife.

o_imbrifer · 08-09-2005, 05:43 PM

Uh oh

/me covers head

PS - I don't understand why people are flaming/poking fun at Catz, it was a valid idea, and most people just didn't take to it. Why drag it out and be an ass?

o_frenchtoast · 08-09-2005, 06:45 PM

Being perfectly honest, I think a 4fort would kick ass

o_yohan1973 · 08-09-2005, 09:50 PM

You know what would make something like 4 fort really cool IMHO. Make it so that that reds cap point is in yellows base, yellows cap point is in greens base, greens cap point is in blues base, and blues cap point is in reds base. That way you really force each team to square off against each other. You'd always be fighting one team primarily defensivly while fighting the other offensivly. Now, is that idea wacky enough to take the heat off of catz? lol

Come on....let me have it! lol

o_imbrifer · 08-09-2005, 10:15 PM

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Make it so that that reds cap point is in yellows base, yellows cap point is in greens base, greens cap point is in blues base, and blues cap point is in reds base.

Only if Red also has to kill Green's Hunted ;)

08-08-2005, 02:49 PM	#1
o_catzeyes93 Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Any Mappers without a project? I am pretty sure I brought this up a LONG time ago, and it got nowhere. So, I thought I would try one last time JUST in case we have a mapper without a project. How about a 2fortmirror? Where the base is exactly like the existing 2fort, however instead of running to the right to get to the ramp room, you run to the left. Instead of going left to get to the water spiral you turn right. Outside is obviously the same, but inside everything is switched. Great idea? Stupid idea? What do you guys think?

08-08-2005, 06:12 PM	#4
Defrag Retired FF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Scotland Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Sounds like a pointless exercise to me. __________________ Fortress Forever. Level Designer, Gameplay Dude and whatnot.

08-08-2005, 11:58 PM	#7
Circuitous Useless Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jun 2005 Class/Position: D Soldier, O Scout Gametype: AvD Posts Rated Helpful 9 Times	...I can't speak for anyone else, but if I saw a "2fort" map and it was just 2fort turned backwards, I think I'd be rightly pissed off. __________________ Look at all those dead links.

08-08-2005, 04:32 PM	#2
o_imbrifer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Changes every few months Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I don't know CatzEyes, a project like that would be a ton of work and the end result would be basically something the FF team will make better (only mirrored). At least that's how I feel about it.

08-08-2005, 05:50 PM	#3
o_frenchtoast Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Markham, Ontario, Canada! Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Why?

08-08-2005, 09:13 PM	#5
o_yohan1973 Join Date: May 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Here's an Idea for you....How about someone sketching up an original map and post scans of the sketches. Then have a mock bid inwhich the best mapper interested would gain the rite to build the map and promis to add design "props" to the sketch artist...

08-09-2005, 04:51 AM	#8
o_nezumi Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Peoples Republic of Harmfull Free Radicals Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	If decompilers decompiled maps back to exactly how they were originally, I'd decompile then flip 2fort just for fun. Then I'd go kill whoever made a decompiler that can so easily rip off my work. I wouldn't want to spend any more time on it than that though.

08-09-2005, 05:16 AM	#9
o_jared-tm- Join Date: May 2005 Location: Tennessee Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Meh, I say open up Hammer and go for it if you want. It's not the best idea and I think the work put into it could go into something better. Have you played around with VHE before?

08-09-2005, 08:46 AM	#10
o_robg Join Date: May 2005 Location: Nottingham Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Just get whoever is making 2fort (defrag?) to flip it and make -2fort.

08-09-2005, 12:41 PM	#11
o_catzeyes93 Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I know nothing of mapping and dont have the time to spend learning. (I am of the older generation that has a family) I wish I did, but I dont. I know someone a couple of years ago tried to do it the 'easy' way by just 'flipping' it like you guys said, but they found it was not as easy as it seemed. So basically it WOULD need to be made from scratch. The idea of calling it -2fort is probably a good choice, but again it would seem the overall idea is not a popular one. Oh well... I know I would think it would be fun... but no one seems to want to take it on. Thanks for the constructive critsizm folks!

08-09-2005, 12:57 PM	#12
o_loader Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Portsmouth, England Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Would be a bit stupid imo.. I'd goto the entrance and go left.. wait, right.. er?? Then I'd play 2fort, and go left, thinking I was supposed to.. but then.. ermm.. People will be confused, like me

08-09-2005, 03:33 PM	#15
o_frenchtoast Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Markham, Ontario, Canada! Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I know, make two more identical bases, and then extend the bridges, then make a huge cross in the middle and make it 4fort, that would kick soooo much ass.

08-09-2005, 05:42 PM	#16
o_etzell Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I don't think it's legal for Catz to have a wife.

08-09-2005, 05:43 PM	#17
o_imbrifer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Changes every few months Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Uh oh /me covers head PS - I don't understand why people are flaming/poking fun at Catz, it was a valid idea, and most people just didn't take to it. Why drag it out and be an ass?

08-09-2005, 06:45 PM	#18
o_frenchtoast Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Markham, Ontario, Canada! Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Being perfectly honest, I think a 4fort would kick ass

08-09-2005, 09:50 PM	#19
o_yohan1973 Join Date: May 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	You know what would make something like 4 fort really cool IMHO. Make it so that that reds cap point is in yellows base, yellows cap point is in greens base, greens cap point is in blues base, and blues cap point is in reds base. That way you really force each team to square off against each other. You'd always be fighting one team primarily defensivly while fighting the other offensivly. Now, is that idea wacky enough to take the heat off of catz? lol Come on....let me have it! lol

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