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Windows Vista = Goodbye OpenGL
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08-07-2005, 11:35 AM | #2 |
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lol what are the chances everyone just sticks with xp?
what kind of retard is gonna run something that looks basically liek xp with a couple of silly tack ons but makes their pc run as if its 5 years older. |
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08-07-2005, 12:57 PM | #3 |
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M$ is trying to make Long Horn greater then any other version of windows and in that presses they are KILLING backwards-compadibility.
People are already saying that Firefox can really gain power since the next version of IE is only for XP and up meaning that anyone running 2000, ME, or 98 have no way of upgrading besides Firefox. |
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Okay before everyone's jumping the gun, I think they're talking about OpenGL on the aeroglass-desktop. I presume you can select between D3D and OGL to accomplish the aeroglass effect. So at the moment, it's just OpenGL on the desktop that'll take the 50% hit, not games\applications. Still a bad thing though.
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08-07-2005, 03:20 PM | #6 |
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I doubt the mongoloids that still use 9x are going to be too concerned about upgrading to the next IE. Probably haven't even heard of Mozilla.
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Re: Windows Vista = Goodbye OpenGL
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People are free to sue if they can't use windows anymore because of a direction MS has chosen to take, but this aeroglass-interface is completely optional, and doesn't cripple Windows' functionality in any way. |
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08-07-2005, 04:23 PM | #9 |
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but still, they chose to be cunts about it, what harm comes to letting the user decide. if OGL works better for a user than D3D, hes naturally going to want the better one, so why did they need to get in a tantrum about the fact their software is potentially inferior, and lock it all down? it only makes them look bad
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08-07-2005, 04:33 PM | #10 |
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to be honest, the sooner we have standardised standards (no pun intended!) on the PC, the better for games and gamers games just cost too much to produce these days cos of all the different configs....plus the performance boost from more efficient code would be v nice.
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You're making too big a fuss out of this. You make it seem like you are somehow forced to use D3D, which is nonsense. It's just this aeroglass-interface that needs it. Also, OpenGL is only circumvented with D3D when it interferes with aeroglass's interface, and by that I mean windowed OpenGL windows. Full screen OpenGL windows pose no problem, but windowed ones can conflict when transparent windows (aeroglass) are dragged over them. I personally have a great preference for OpenGL in everything I do, but the reason I don't mind what MS is doing, is because I simply do not use these useless gimmicks, hence I'm not bothered by it. And I think any self-respected PC user doesn't even bother with fancy desktop-themes, when they're more interested in their performance. |
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There isn't alot I can't do in Win2k that I'd want to do in XP. I like Win2k better. I don't have -anything- like IE or MSN Messenger integrated. I don't have any product activation that might one day decide it isn't activated. My main GUI doesn't look like a piece of candy or a child's toy. And all of the service packs I've downloaded worked like they were supposed to. Why I'd want to spend 200$ to run a buggy OS is beyond me.
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I think windows beta1 vista looks allot more "professional" & "solid" then windows XP or windows 2000.
I even like the new improvements and search features of the OS. Don't understand why u would stick to windows 2000, when u can have windows XP and dissable the gui in the performance options, making it look like windows 2000 (u can do the same thing in vista). Just for the installer of vista alone, i would trow XP in the bin. I'm prolly happy with any try to improve windows. Lets face it, aslong no other OS can provide any level of half decent media content & a product that easy to work with. M$ windows is all we have. |
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The difference between XP and 2k, as far as I'm concerned, is that under XP, I need to spend 8 or so minutes disabling various settings, on a clean install. That's basically it. No real reason to upgrade, unless you really want System Restore (nope), IE with a pop-up blocker (nope), or a built-in firewall (nope).
Though I have a volume liscense version of XP Pro, so I don't have to activate it, ever. |
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The performance hit DOES effect games.
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dont really know why i havnt gone back to 2k, i should when i get around to finding my CD :/
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as long as i can still run opengl stuff in a basic window i dont mind really tbh
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