texture problem

o_zorro · 02-08-2005, 04:06 AM

Problem ive constantly had with curves... if i shoot at it from up close it will show up.. ive tried putting lights by them and everything cant figure it out

whats the cause of this? and how can i fix it?

any help will be greatly appreciated, thanks.

PHISH · 02-08-2005, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Zorro

Problem ive constantly had with curves... if i shoot at it from up close it will show up.. ive tried putting lights by them and everything cant figure it out

whats the cause of this? and how can i fix it?

any help will be greatly appreciated, thanks.

Perhaps you can clarify your problem?

"if i shoot at it from up close it will show up"

Shoot what? what will show up-that black line?
Tried putting lights by "them" to do what? Figure what out?
Remember we aren't reading your mind...well at least I can't!

o_vertical · 02-08-2005, 05:53 AM

I'm assuming he means that big black line, I've had this occur when I made a big glass window, but it fixed it when I resized the glass to like 30% its origional size. though in your case, I doubt that would work, and since I'm new to mapping, I really don't know.

o_zorro · 02-08-2005, 06:17 AM

lol yah... i was refering to the large black line in the image i put up..

Defrag · 02-08-2005, 06:18 AM

Try moving one of the vertices on the brush that is not being lit correctly. This problem has existed since quake >_<, it's rather annoying to find your map has totally unlit chunks. My TFC map sublime and also 2kfort4 had the same problem in totally arbitrary places. I just vertex edited until it went away.

o_zorro · 02-08-2005, 07:37 AM

thanks defrag, worked nicely.

o_nomak · 02-09-2005, 12:09 AM

how in the world did you make that curve? that was never explained to me in teh tutorials provided by source sdk reference notes. Can you tell me or show me a link to a tutorial that shows how to make curves like taht. And i dont know what the carve or clip tool does. is that what makes that curve?

o_zorro · 02-09-2005, 01:29 AM

the outward curve is just a circle clipped in half..

the other one.. you use the clip tool, ill give you a link that might help.

http://nicolas.dierick.free.fr/tutor.../41-courbe.rar

o_nomak · 02-09-2005, 02:40 AM

i dont trust downloadable links that i dont know. do you have any like written tutorials on it?

o_kam · 02-10-2005, 03:49 AM

Cylinder brush and clip tool. Not that hard really o_O

o_zorro · 02-10-2005, 07:38 AM

yah for the outward curves, the enward were just clipping pretty much, i dunno if theres an easier way... and as for tutorials.. i guess you can google it, ive just been using the video tutorials.

o_jerm · 02-10-2005, 09:54 AM

One of the stickies is called Everything you need to/want to know about mapping, and in that thread is a link to a video tutorial site, this site shows you via video how to make a curve, either way

Defrag · 02-10-2005, 02:58 PM

I typically make inward curves by using the cylinder tool to form an outline, then create brushes to 'fill' in the outline via vertex manipulation.

o_nomak · 02-10-2005, 08:33 PM

JERM wat do u meen "One of the stickies..." where is this stickie that you speak of?

DEFRAG umm when i use the vertex tool and go to check for problems it says "irrgular solid object" and its always the object i try to vertex.

When i use the clip tool its weird. lets say that in top view when i allign it to cut a cylinder in half i line it up but then in the side view its up higher so when i try to lower it to the height of the cylinder the top view image of the clip line changes direction... its hard to explain but it doesnt really work for me

Defrag · 02-10-2005, 09:29 PM

When you vertex manipulate, you must ensure the resultant solid is CONVEX. If you google for some tutorials they will explain it better than I can.

o_zorro · 02-11-2005, 01:05 AM

ah yah that ways way better, only 4 brushes or so..

o_zorro · 02-12-2005, 09:19 AM

Ok time for more texture problems

This one is kind of hard to see... but the texture is a difrent color on my curves.. It seems to resize them and also make the color a bit lighter... I resize them but it does not fix the coloring.. what am i doing wrong?

o_flyingcow · 02-12-2005, 06:31 PM

try messing around with the world and face checkboxes inthe texture box

o_zorro · 02-12-2005, 08:23 PM

ah wierd, the face/world arent checked on the curves, seems to fix it by checking it, thanks

edit: hmmm n/m, seems to work for some of them but not for all.. and it wont let me select both world and face like the other ones are set to

o_nomak · 02-14-2005, 12:08 AM

ZORRO is that a custom texture.... ive never seen a blue wall like that in the hammer thing. it looks awesome did you download from somewhere or make it.. if so pleaes tell me where i can get it thx

02-08-2005, 04:06 AM	#1
o_zorro Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: California Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	texture problem Problem ive constantly had with curves... if i shoot at it from up close it will show up.. ive tried putting lights by them and everything cant figure it out whats the cause of this? and how can i fix it? any help will be greatly appreciated, thanks.

02-08-2005, 06:18 AM	#5
Defrag Retired FF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Scotland Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Try moving one of the vertices on the brush that is not being lit correctly. This problem has existed since quake >_<, it's rather annoying to find your map has totally unlit chunks. My TFC map sublime and also 2kfort4 had the same problem in totally arbitrary places. I just vertex edited until it went away. __________________ Fortress Forever. Level Designer, Gameplay Dude and whatnot.

02-09-2005, 12:09 AM	#7
o_nomak Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: lost please find me Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	hey zorro how in the world did you make that curve? that was never explained to me in teh tutorials provided by source sdk reference notes. Can you tell me or show me a link to a tutorial that shows how to make curves like taht. And i dont know what the carve or clip tool does. is that what makes that curve?

02-09-2005, 02:40 AM	#9
o_nomak Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: lost please find me Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	do you have anything else i dont trust downloadable links that i dont know. do you have any like written tutorials on it?

02-10-2005, 02:58 PM	#13
Defrag Retired FF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Scotland Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I typically make inward curves by using the cylinder tool to form an outline, then create brushes to 'fill' in the outline via vertex manipulation. __________________ Fortress Forever. Level Designer, Gameplay Dude and whatnot.

02-08-2005, 05:53 AM	#3
o_vertical Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: USA, KY Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I'm assuming he means that big black line, I've had this occur when I made a big glass window, but it fixed it when I resized the glass to like 30% its origional size. though in your case, I doubt that would work, and since I'm new to mapping, I really don't know.

02-08-2005, 06:17 AM	#4
o_zorro Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: California Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	lol yah... i was refering to the large black line in the image i put up..

02-08-2005, 07:37 AM	#6
o_zorro Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: California Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	thanks defrag, worked nicely.

02-09-2005, 01:29 AM	#8
o_zorro Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: California Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	the outward curve is just a circle clipped in half.. the other one.. you use the clip tool, ill give you a link that might help. http://nicolas.dierick.free.fr/tutor.../41-courbe.rar

02-10-2005, 03:49 AM	#10
o_kam Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melbourne Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Cylinder brush and clip tool. Not that hard really o_O

02-10-2005, 07:38 AM	#11
o_zorro Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: California Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	yah for the outward curves, the enward were just clipping pretty much, i dunno if theres an easier way... and as for tutorials.. i guess you can google it, ive just been using the video tutorials.

02-10-2005, 09:54 AM	#12
o_jerm Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Aotearoa, New Zealand Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	One of the stickies is called Everything you need to/want to know about mapping, and in that thread is a link to a video tutorial site, this site shows you via video how to make a curve, either way

02-10-2005, 08:33 PM	#14
o_nomak Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: lost please find me Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	thx guys JERM wat do u meen "One of the stickies..." where is this stickie that you speak of? DEFRAG umm when i use the vertex tool and go to check for problems it says "irrgular solid object" and its always the object i try to vertex. When i use the clip tool its weird. lets say that in top view when i allign it to cut a cylinder in half i line it up but then in the side view its up higher so when i try to lower it to the height of the cylinder the top view image of the clip line changes direction... its hard to explain but it doesnt really work for me

02-10-2005, 09:29 PM	#15
Defrag Retired FF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Scotland Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	When you vertex manipulate, you must ensure the resultant solid is CONVEX. If you google for some tutorials they will explain it better than I can. __________________ Fortress Forever. Level Designer, Gameplay Dude and whatnot.

02-11-2005, 01:05 AM	#16
o_zorro Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: California Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	ah yah that ways way better, only 4 brushes or so..

02-12-2005, 09:19 AM	#17
o_zorro Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: California Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Ok time for more texture problems This one is kind of hard to see... but the texture is a difrent color on my curves.. It seems to resize them and also make the color a bit lighter... I resize them but it does not fix the coloring.. what am i doing wrong?

02-12-2005, 06:31 PM	#18
o_flyingcow Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	try messing around with the world and face checkboxes inthe texture box

02-12-2005, 08:23 PM	#19
o_zorro Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: California Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	ah wierd, the face/world arent checked on the curves, seems to fix it by checking it, thanks edit: hmmm n/m, seems to work for some of them but not for all.. and it wont let me select both world and face like the other ones are set to

02-14-2005, 12:08 AM	#20
o_nomak Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: lost please find me Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	custom text. ZORRO is that a custom texture.... ive never seen a blue wall like that in the hammer thing. it looks awesome did you download from somewhere or make it.. if so pleaes tell me where i can get it thx

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