[Raynian]

Originally Posted by Innoc

If you want to do something then figure out how to identify sooner and get help for the broken people who are given bad ideas by video games and movies.

Seriously? Haven't we had enough of blaming games and movies for this? The issue is caused by poor living/social conditions which result in a situation where the offender wants to inflict harm upon others, and/or end his own life. The most you could attribute to games/tv/movies is "inspiration" in how they accomplish that, but that's still a shitty excuse - it's not like people don't know how to shoot others if they haven't played CoD.

Let's create defensible space within the schools where a bad guy could be stalled long enough for the Police tactical teams to arrive.

And let's update tens of thousands of schools, shopping centers, and other public areas across America to do this. Isn't going to happen, and as crude as it sounds, DEFINITELY isn't worth the cost. Something people need to learn to realize is that there IS a value of each life. If you spend a million dollars to save one person's life, you're taking that money from other people. If you take enough from people who are already having trouble getting by, you're just making it worse for them in the end.

Let's consider permitting those teachers that wish to carry concealed in school the opportunity to do so.

How do people honestly come up with this? Seriously? "oh, we're having an issue with guns in schools, let's just make them ALWAYS available in schools so that teachers can do something!"

so many things wrong with that.

1) what if the teachers are the ones at fault here? they're working a high stress job, and everyone knows that some teachers definitely have some mental problems. it's not a "well create a program where we phase out the bad teachers"

same sort of problem as your first point there, it's not feasible and would cost too much.

2) are you going to train the teachers how to use said weaponry? a shooter that comes into a school isn't just going to give up because there might be someone else in the school that can possibly stop him. he doesn't care about his own life. besides, he can just shoot the armed teachers anyways. it's not some miracle fix where "oh this school might have a hidden gun so I won't kill all the students there". if anything the cons highly outweigh the pros.

Let's create improved warning systems so that when a school goes into lockdown external sirens alert the surrounding buildings and homes.

see above statements about cost and how impractical it is to do

even if you just used existing systems (EBS, tornado sirens, etc) it wouldn't change much

the shooter walks into the school, kills people, kills himself. it's what happens every time. not going to change the fact that at the end of the day there are dead bodies.



I understand it's just as hard to flush out all of the firearms in America because there are literally hundreds of millions of them. but frankly there is no excuse for how prevalent they are in our culture except for people who "feel safer" because of them, which itself is a shitty excuse 90%+ of the time. If there were actually significant gun control you'd clearly see a huge drop in homicides/violent crimes.