It's not just crossover, I've seen this happen in a lot of maps, probably the most in waterpolo.

So do we have any idea what causes this? I remember hearing that it had to do with the number of particles in the map, and we took the snow out of crossover to try and fix it.

No idea. Also not sure if this is related or not but there are no location tags or what ever they are called for the flag when its dropped.

Yeah, I know. They were there, but for some reason whoever did the last update hid the location triggers before compiling. Hopefully I can fix all these issues in one shot.

Does the flame bug happen every time, or is it semi-random? Can it be consistently reproduced?

ya it happens every time. Right from the start. Be a pyro, find an enemy, burn then, no flame, though they are taking damage and you can hear the pain sound.


One time someone suggested that it might have something to do with the stuff not taking as much damage because of the snow in the court yards or something like that. I don't know if thats true that sgs take less damage because of the snow, that could have something to do with it.

The snow thing sounds like a pure myth. I think it's probably a bug, similar to how sometimes explosion sprites for detonating pipes will disappear.

EDIT:

The particle limit thing might make sense. Waterpolo has the rain going on, which could interfere with the flame sprites.

snow is just a texture/effect. It has no effect on the game.

I think it's caused by the center of the coordinate space being underwater. I moved the entire map down and it seems to work.

Cool thanks :)

Is it the same issue on waterpolo? The two inches of water etc. Could use lua to remove falling dmg instead of the water if thats how it is setup

I bet it is water-related, but the center of waterpolo is above the water.

I think it's something like the game thinking they are underwater and so the fire shouldn't show. Remember crossover used to have that bug where it sounded like you were underwater all the time.

It might also have to do with the fact that there's no info_intermission entity. I put one in crossover and that might be what fixed it. ...If it's fixed. I spawned some bots and set them on fire, and I saw flames.

Did we fix this or anything?

Crazycarl fixed this a while ago. :)